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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 29 2014 23:13 GMT
#1761
yeah I might give them a chance at a low seed in the East but definitely not the West.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
August 30 2014 00:04 GMT
#1762
On August 30 2014 05:58 Ace wrote:
Yep. Lin is elite at attacking the rim and he isn't a terrible shooter. He got injured midway into the season and just never recovered. He's solid.


Lakers will still suck though.


I think Kobe'll be fine, and I think Lin will be pretty solid this year. I don't think Kobe will be strong enough to carry the team and they're going to get eaten alive by every team that has: a) really good bigs, b) really strong PG's... which is basically all of the Western Conference.

I think best case scenario is they sneak into the playoffs as the 8th seed. Based on last year.. I think it's possible, under ideal circumstances, that this Laker team can be better than the Suns, but even so that'd put them 9th.. it seems unlikely for them to get one more spot higher barring some weird freakish circumstances, either major injuries to some other West team or some kind of incredible lucky Laker streak
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13426 Posts
August 30 2014 05:50 GMT
#1763
Well it could come down to injuries.

But SAS, OKC, LAC, PDX, HOU, GS, MEM and DAL are all clearly better imo. Thats not to mention the pelicans and suns. It will take a big dose of luck for the Lakers to sniff the playoffs. They've got mid 30s win team all over them.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 30 2014 10:28 GMT
#1764
In what universe is Lin an elite penetrator? Does Elite mean top 25? Because I don't think that's what elite means.
Remember Violet.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 30 2014 14:35 GMT
#1765
On August 30 2014 19:28 TwoToneTerran wrote:
In what universe is Lin an elite penetrator? Does Elite mean top 25? Because I don't think that's what elite means.

I haven't looked at the Sportsvu numbers, but I would say Lin is exceptional at using screens. He's definitely more of an athletic guard than a pass-first guard (I've been saying this forever, even when idiots were comparing him to Steve Nash), but he doesn't have elite speed. He has pretty good acceleration and exceptional pace.

A lot of guys in the NBA don't get pace, so they go too quickly and get an ineffective screen. Lin is a lot better at hesitating until the right moment and getting lost behind the screen.

I think him and Jordan Hill will be the most interesting part of the Lakers.
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MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
August 30 2014 15:29 GMT
#1766
Boozer is not bad at the PnR either.


God this season is going to suck.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Tosstriss
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada334 Posts
August 30 2014 15:35 GMT
#1767
On August 31 2014 00:29 MassHysteria wrote:
Boozer is not bad at the PnR either.


God this season is going to suck.

Hey at least it is better than last year.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 30 2014 16:53 GMT
#1768
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 30 2014 17:54 GMT
#1769
On August 30 2014 23:35 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 19:28 TwoToneTerran wrote:
In what universe is Lin an elite penetrator? Does Elite mean top 25? Because I don't think that's what elite means.

I haven't looked at the Sportsvu numbers, but I would say Lin is exceptional at using screens. He's definitely more of an athletic guard than a pass-first guard (I've been saying this forever, even when idiots were comparing him to Steve Nash), but he doesn't have elite speed. He has pretty good acceleration and exceptional pace.

A lot of guys in the NBA don't get pace, so they go too quickly and get an ineffective screen. Lin is a lot better at hesitating until the right moment and getting lost behind the screen.

I think him and Jordan Hill will be the most interesting part of the Lakers.


I agree that driving is one of his stronger skills but the term "elite" is being used synonymously with "good" in this situation. The guy isn't Rose or Westbrook. Heck, he's not even Ty Lawson.
Remember Violet.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
August 30 2014 19:33 GMT
#1770
Haha, Andray Blatche is "Filipino". Almost beat Croatia too.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
August 31 2014 00:01 GMT
#1771
On August 30 2014 14:50 RowdierBob wrote:
Well it could come down to injuries.

But SAS, OKC, LAC, PDX, HOU, GS, MEM and DAL are all clearly better imo. Thats not to mention the pelicans and suns. It will take a big dose of luck for the Lakers to sniff the playoffs. They've got mid 30s win team all over them.


Literally what I said... I don't particularly think that Phoenix or New Orleans are better than the Lakers (assuming they play a full season with a normally healthy roster). But that's my point, even so, there are still 8 other teams that are clearly better, so best case scenario they're 9th in the West.. unless they get very lucky with other teams having major injuries
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 31 2014 00:21 GMT
#1772
On August 31 2014 04:33 andrewlt wrote:
Haha, Andray Blatche is "Filipino". Almost beat Croatia too.

rofl yeah. we just naturalized him just for the world cup
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16123 Posts
August 31 2014 00:56 GMT
#1773
On August 31 2014 00:35 Tosstriss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 00:29 MassHysteria wrote:
Boozer is not bad at the PnR either.


God this season is going to suck.

Hey at least it is better than last year.


Yea that's my best solace for this season. No matter what happens, this season can't be any worse than last season.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Tosstriss
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada334 Posts
August 31 2014 04:13 GMT
#1774
On August 31 2014 09:56 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2014 00:35 Tosstriss wrote:
On August 31 2014 00:29 MassHysteria wrote:
Boozer is not bad at the PnR either.


God this season is going to suck.

Hey at least it is better than last year.


Yea that's my best solace for this season. No matter what happens, this season can't be any worse than last season.

Compare to the Celtics I really don't know on what the fuck they are actually doing still.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13426 Posts
August 31 2014 05:08 GMT
#1775
On August 31 2014 09:01 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 14:50 RowdierBob wrote:
Well it could come down to injuries.

But SAS, OKC, LAC, PDX, HOU, GS, MEM and DAL are all clearly better imo. Thats not to mention the pelicans and suns. It will take a big dose of luck for the Lakers to sniff the playoffs. They've got mid 30s win team all over them.


Literally what I said... I don't particularly think that Phoenix or New Orleans are better than the Lakers (assuming they play a full season with a normally healthy roster). But that's my point, even so, there are still 8 other teams that are clearly better, so best case scenario they're 9th in the West.. unless they get very lucky with other teams having major injuries


I think the Pelos are better than the Lakers with holiday back and Davis a year older. Phoenix will go back a bit but not much imo. I think it's still very debatable if Lakers are even top 10 in west.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
parkufarku
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
882 Posts
August 31 2014 05:55 GMT
#1776
On August 30 2014 19:28 TwoToneTerran wrote:
In what universe is Lin an elite penetrator? Does Elite mean top 25? Because I don't think that's what elite means.


One of the quickest, if not quickest, explosive first step in the NBA

If we take a look at advanced stats, Lin shot 57.9 percent off drives last season, second only to LeBron James who shot 63.8 percent (minimum seven drives per game). That’s proof that Lin is a stellar dribble-drive player.
citing : http://www.lakersnation.com/jeremy-lins-impact-on-and-off-the-court-in-los-angeles/2014/07/12/

efficient finisher, and just as fast as John Wall in pure speed.

He's incredibly beastly when it comes to penetration, even his haters admit it. Lin is no CP3 or Rose, but he's almost Rose-esque when it comes to getting to the rim. It's not as flashy as Rose b/c Rose has higher verticals, but still beastly.

Lin still has flaws, but he's going to be great in the coming years.
parkufarku
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
882 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-31 05:59:15
August 31 2014 05:58 GMT
#1777
On August 30 2014 01:01 AgentW wrote:
If you think Harden being a ball dominator was a problem, what makes you think Kobe is going to be better? This reeks of homerism.


Because Kobe shoots the ball a lot, but still lets a point guard play as a point guard on his team. He lets Steve Blake play his position. Harden simply takes the ball away from his PGs..that's why his assist number is so high. Not to mention Rockets had one of the most unfriendly PG offensive system where they let even bigs handle the ball and put PGs as a spot-up shooter..
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 31 2014 09:07 GMT
#1778


rose too fast or defender too hardenish?

or both?
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
August 31 2014 13:47 GMT
#1779
poor defender has a limp lol
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
August 31 2014 16:43 GMT
#1780
It seems like almost everybody has guys out except Spain.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
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