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On February 09 2014 04:41 IAmWithStupid wrote:
My fellow Canadian friends! We can speak about Mogul skiing (Congratz, btw) / Figure skating / Curling / etc. all day long... But honestly... The gold medal in hockey is all that matters! Am I right?
Indeed! I cant see Canada winning again this year, given they have won 2 out of the last 3. So I'm pulling for the Russians to win on home ice or the Fins!
dont get me wrong, if Canada plays to the team they have, they are the best team by a ways. But Im not as big a fan of the lineup this year and its hard to defend olympic championships!
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hahahah how does this even happen
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Russian Federation1016 Posts
On February 09 2014 05:12 Darpa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 04:41 IAmWithStupid wrote:
My fellow Canadian friends! We can speak about Mogul skiing (Congratz, btw) / Figure skating / Curling / etc. all day long... But honestly... The gold medal in hockey is all that matters! Am I right? Indeed! I cant see Canada winning again this year, given they have won 2 out of the last 3. So I'm pulling for the Russians to win on home ice or the Fins! dont get me wrong, if Canada plays to the team they have, they are the best team by a ways. But Im not as big a fan of the lineup this year and its hard to defend olympic championships!
Turin 2006 was awfull for both of us: we won in quaterfinals, everyone bragged about winning the whole thing after Canada like there was no other worthy competitors only to get rolled 4-0 by Fins... I can see this happen again...
On February 09 2014 05:14 QuanticHawk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +hahahah how does this even happen
And the award "not my fucking job" goes to...
Foreigners see strange things in Sochi, Russians see normal everyday life!
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apparently that isnt in sochi. WHOOPS.
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On February 09 2014 05:34 IAmWithStupid wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 05:12 Darpa wrote:On February 09 2014 04:41 IAmWithStupid wrote:
My fellow Canadian friends! We can speak about Mogul skiing (Congratz, btw) / Figure skating / Curling / etc. all day long... But honestly... The gold medal in hockey is all that matters! Am I right? Indeed! I cant see Canada winning again this year, given they have won 2 out of the last 3. So I'm pulling for the Russians to win on home ice or the Fins! dont get me wrong, if Canada plays to the team they have, they are the best team by a ways. But Im not as big a fan of the lineup this year and its hard to defend olympic championships! Turin 2006 was awfull for both of us: we won in quaterfinals, everyone bragged about winning the whole thing after Canada like there was no other worthy competitors only to get rolled 4-0 by Fins... I can see this happen again... And the award "not my fucking job" goes to... Foreigners see strange things in Sochi, Russians see normal everyday life!
Complete and total olympic fuck ups are a world wide phenomenon.
Montreal took 30 years to pay for the Olympic stadium they built... it cost $1.5 billion ( in 1975 ) to make the stadium and the place is horrible... the roof has caved in more than once... etc etc...
It'll be interesting to see if Sochi ends up being a bigger financial disaster than Montreal.
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On February 09 2014 05:43 lamprey1 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 05:34 IAmWithStupid wrote:On February 09 2014 05:12 Darpa wrote:On February 09 2014 04:41 IAmWithStupid wrote:
My fellow Canadian friends! We can speak about Mogul skiing (Congratz, btw) / Figure skating / Curling / etc. all day long... But honestly... The gold medal in hockey is all that matters! Am I right? Indeed! I cant see Canada winning again this year, given they have won 2 out of the last 3. So I'm pulling for the Russians to win on home ice or the Fins! dont get me wrong, if Canada plays to the team they have, they are the best team by a ways. But Im not as big a fan of the lineup this year and its hard to defend olympic championships! Turin 2006 was awfull for both of us: we won in quaterfinals, everyone bragged about winning the whole thing after Canada like there was no other worthy competitors only to get rolled 4-0 by Fins... I can see this happen again... On February 09 2014 05:14 QuanticHawk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +hahahah how does this even happen And the award "not my fucking job" goes to... Foreigners see strange things in Sochi, Russians see normal everyday life! Complete and total olympic fuck ups are a world wide phenomenon. Montreal took 30 years to pay for the Olympic stadium they built... it cost $1.5 billion ( in 1975 ) to make the stadium and the place is horrible... the roof has caved in more than once... etc etc... It'll be interesting to see if Sochi ends up being a bigger financial disaster than Montreal.
The Calgary games were a success, even turning a net surplus despite being the most expensive to date.
Some get it right, some get it wrong. Many buildings from the Olympics in Greece now sit abandoned same with Beijing. At least the Olympic Stadium in Montreal got some use after it was built. I don't think Montreal had the worst Olympics financially (I could be wrong though...I am) they certainly were not however a model for success.
I agree it will be interesting to look back at Sochi in a few years and see where they are at.
(Edit) Found some arguments that yes Montreal 1976 remains, the worst Olympic event for a host city (financially).
source
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On February 09 2014 06:02 nikj wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 05:43 lamprey1 wrote:On February 09 2014 05:34 IAmWithStupid wrote:On February 09 2014 05:12 Darpa wrote:On February 09 2014 04:41 IAmWithStupid wrote:
My fellow Canadian friends! We can speak about Mogul skiing (Congratz, btw) / Figure skating / Curling / etc. all day long... But honestly... The gold medal in hockey is all that matters! Am I right? Indeed! I cant see Canada winning again this year, given they have won 2 out of the last 3. So I'm pulling for the Russians to win on home ice or the Fins! dont get me wrong, if Canada plays to the team they have, they are the best team by a ways. But Im not as big a fan of the lineup this year and its hard to defend olympic championships! Turin 2006 was awfull for both of us: we won in quaterfinals, everyone bragged about winning the whole thing after Canada like there was no other worthy competitors only to get rolled 4-0 by Fins... I can see this happen again... On February 09 2014 05:14 QuanticHawk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +hahahah how does this even happen And the award "not my fucking job" goes to... Foreigners see strange things in Sochi, Russians see normal everyday life! Complete and total olympic fuck ups are a world wide phenomenon. Montreal took 30 years to pay for the Olympic stadium they built... it cost $1.5 billion ( in 1975 ) to make the stadium and the place is horrible... the roof has caved in more than once... etc etc... It'll be interesting to see if Sochi ends up being a bigger financial disaster than Montreal. The Calgary games were a success, even turning a net surplus despite being the most expensive to date. Some get it right, some get it wrong. Many buildings from the Olympics in Greece now sit abandoned same with Beijing. At least the Olympic Stadium in Montreal got some use after it was built. I don't think Montreal had the worst Olympics financially (I could be wrong though...I am) they certainly were not however a model for success. I agree it will be interesting to look back at Sochi in a few years and see where they are at. (Edit) Found some arguments that yes Montreal 1976 remains, the worst Olympic event for a host city (financially). source
if u get a chance to visit Olympic Stadium... do it...
for the simple fact of being able to say " this piece of garbage costs $1.5 billion in 1975 money? wtf "
although it did get some use.. it was a horrible baseball stadium and football field.
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Bisutopia19387 Posts
Anyone find a good place to watch this online?
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On February 09 2014 04:41 IAmWithStupid wrote:
My fellow Canadian friends! We can speak about Mogul skiing (Congratz, btw) / Figure skating / Curling / etc. all day long... But honestly... The gold medal in hockey is all that matters! Am I right?
Guess that means Lundqvist is going to ruin your entire Olympics.
Oh and as far as curling goes, Niklas gonna freakin' carry this shait all the way.
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Hilarious.
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Can anyone get me the version of Siberiade used at the end of the history part of the opening ceremony? It's the song as the girl lets go of the red balloon.
The synth in the original version if off-putting.
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On February 09 2014 06:30 BisuDagger wrote:
Anyone find a good place to watch this online?
I VPN to Canada and watch it on http://www.cbc.ca/olympics -- all the events live, all the VODs available for stuff one might miss.
On February 09 2014 05:43 lamprey1 wrote:
It'll be interesting to see if Sochi ends up being a bigger financial disaster than Montreal.
There's this infograph going around the web:
(via)
Based on this and other pretty reliable info about low attendances, etc. one might have a strong guess how this'll all end.
On February 09 2014 07:19 Anlo wrote:Oh and as far as curling goes, Niklas gonna freakin' carry this shait all the way. + Show Spoiler +Hilarious.
Curling is the bestest.
Also, that picture posted above about that toilet is fake, not Sochi.
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If there's going to be economic benefit from the Sochi Olympics it's going to be over time. As it was, Sochi was a second-class summer resort that was passed over for Crimea, Turkey, etc. It's trying to market itself as an all-around summer/winter resort now. So where does this leave the future of Sochi?
I don't know any comparable cases, the closest I can think of is Atlantic City, NJ going from a decrepit, worn-out version of Las Vegas to a family-friendly fun town. AC is in very similar conditions to that part of Russia, relatively speaking. Tons of money was injected by the state government into that (most of it into advertising), and in recent months there's been a lot of direct action from the state government to boost the city, overriding local authority. AC was (and if everything works out, will be) a huge moneymaker for New Jersey, and I think Putin's trying to make Sochi to be a potential huge moneymaker for Russia.
And like in Sochi, nothing in Atlantic City is going well... yet. The biggest casino, Revel, is scheduled to operate at a loss until 2017, and there's a lot of poverty/unemployment. Just like Europe vs. Sochi, there's also other family resorts close by that are more established which means people from New York are going to be going there, before coming to AC. Philadelphia might switch more easily. Putin isn't the most honest guy around, but he does have an interest in saying "we want to be in the center of everything", and Sochi is a great opportunity to do that. So based on what I see over here, Sochi is going to probably go through a few years of hard times as all of the efforts, assuming the effort keeps coming in of course, start to kick in. But then it will recover.
On the Russian side, Grozny looks very nice ever since it was bombed to shit in the 2000's, and Moscow/Petersburg have been growing because of the huge money flow that the two cities get. So yes, if Putin really wants Sochi to be a good city to visit, it will become a good city to visit.
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On February 09 2014 09:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
If there's going to be economic benefit from the Sochi Olympics it's going to be over time. As it was, Sochi was a second-class summer resort that was passed over for Crimea, Turkey, etc. It's trying to market itself as an all-around summer/winter resort now. So where does this leave the future of Sochi?
I don't know any comparable cases, the closest I can think of is Atlantic City, NJ going from a decrepit, worn-out version of Las Vegas to a family-friendly fun town. AC is in very similar conditions to that part of Russia, relatively speaking. Tons of money was injected by the state government into that (most of it into advertising), and in recent months there's been a lot of direct action from the state government to boost the city, overriding local authority. AC was (and if everything works out, will be) a huge moneymaker for New Jersey, and I think Putin's trying to make Sochi to be a potential huge moneymaker for Russia.
And like in Sochi, nothing in Atlantic City is going well... yet. The biggest casino, Revel, is scheduled to operate at a loss until 2017, and there's a lot of poverty/unemployment. Just like Europe vs. Sochi, there's also other family resorts close by that are more established which means people from New York are going to be going there, before coming to AC. Philadelphia might switch more easily. Putin isn't the most honest guy around, but he does have an interest in saying "we want to be in the center of everything", and Sochi is a great opportunity to do that. So based on what I see over here, Sochi is going to probably go through a few years of hard times as all of the efforts, assuming the effort keeps coming in of course, start to kick in. But then it will recover.
On the Russian side, Grozny looks very nice ever since it was bombed to shit in the 2000's, and Moscow/Petersburg have been growing because of the huge money flow that the two cities get. So yes, if Putin really wants Sochi to be a good city to visit, it will become a good city to visit.
economic benefit is IMPOSSIBLE for Sochi, the Olympics cost like 50 billion, this place will never make it up
Not even the Chinese were so crazy
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On February 09 2014 09:48 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 09:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
If there's going to be economic benefit from the Sochi Olympics it's going to be over time. As it was, Sochi was a second-class summer resort that was passed over for Crimea, Turkey, etc. It's trying to market itself as an all-around summer/winter resort now. So where does this leave the future of Sochi?
I don't know any comparable cases, the closest I can think of is Atlantic City, NJ going from a decrepit, worn-out version of Las Vegas to a family-friendly fun town. AC is in very similar conditions to that part of Russia, relatively speaking. Tons of money was injected by the state government into that (most of it into advertising), and in recent months there's been a lot of direct action from the state government to boost the city, overriding local authority. AC was (and if everything works out, will be) a huge moneymaker for New Jersey, and I think Putin's trying to make Sochi to be a potential huge moneymaker for Russia.
And like in Sochi, nothing in Atlantic City is going well... yet. The biggest casino, Revel, is scheduled to operate at a loss until 2017, and there's a lot of poverty/unemployment. Just like Europe vs. Sochi, there's also other family resorts close by that are more established which means people from New York are going to be going there, before coming to AC. Philadelphia might switch more easily. Putin isn't the most honest guy around, but he does have an interest in saying "we want to be in the center of everything", and Sochi is a great opportunity to do that. So based on what I see over here, Sochi is going to probably go through a few years of hard times as all of the efforts, assuming the effort keeps coming in of course, start to kick in. But then it will recover.
On the Russian side, Grozny looks very nice ever since it was bombed to shit in the 2000's, and Moscow/Petersburg have been growing because of the huge money flow that the two cities get. So yes, if Putin really wants Sochi to be a good city to visit, it will become a good city to visit. economic benefit is IMPOSSIBLE for Sochi, the Olympics cost like 50 billion, this place will never make it up Not even the Chinese were so crazy
The money will come.
Russia is hosting the World Cup in four years. This means that as long as nothing explodes, the Olympic stadia are simply going to be converted into World Cup stadia.
A lot of it is also going into utilities/roads, which is really money that doesn't have to be spent on these things later.
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This Olympiad is not going to be close to paying for itself. And hardly anything can be reused for the world cup - that's just gonna be another example of incredible wastefulness to show off Russia on the global stage.
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On February 09 2014 10:00 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 09:48 sharkie wrote:On February 09 2014 09:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
If there's going to be economic benefit from the Sochi Olympics it's going to be over time. As it was, Sochi was a second-class summer resort that was passed over for Crimea, Turkey, etc. It's trying to market itself as an all-around summer/winter resort now. So where does this leave the future of Sochi?
I don't know any comparable cases, the closest I can think of is Atlantic City, NJ going from a decrepit, worn-out version of Las Vegas to a family-friendly fun town. AC is in very similar conditions to that part of Russia, relatively speaking. Tons of money was injected by the state government into that (most of it into advertising), and in recent months there's been a lot of direct action from the state government to boost the city, overriding local authority. AC was (and if everything works out, will be) a huge moneymaker for New Jersey, and I think Putin's trying to make Sochi to be a potential huge moneymaker for Russia.
And like in Sochi, nothing in Atlantic City is going well... yet. The biggest casino, Revel, is scheduled to operate at a loss until 2017, and there's a lot of poverty/unemployment. Just like Europe vs. Sochi, there's also other family resorts close by that are more established which means people from New York are going to be going there, before coming to AC. Philadelphia might switch more easily. Putin isn't the most honest guy around, but he does have an interest in saying "we want to be in the center of everything", and Sochi is a great opportunity to do that. So based on what I see over here, Sochi is going to probably go through a few years of hard times as all of the efforts, assuming the effort keeps coming in of course, start to kick in. But then it will recover.
On the Russian side, Grozny looks very nice ever since it was bombed to shit in the 2000's, and Moscow/Petersburg have been growing because of the huge money flow that the two cities get. So yes, if Putin really wants Sochi to be a good city to visit, it will become a good city to visit. economic benefit is IMPOSSIBLE for Sochi, the Olympics cost like 50 billion, this place will never make it up Not even the Chinese were so crazy The money will come. Russia is hosting the World Cup in four years. This means that as long as nothing explodes, the Olympic stadia are simply going to be converted into World Cup stadia. A lot of it is also going into utilities/roads, which is really money that doesn't have to be spent on these things later.
That they run through peoples houses, or on both sides/around them so they couldn't even get water or electricity and getting answered with "If you don't like it, move". Sounds like a good thing, sure.
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On February 09 2014 07:19 Anlo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 04:41 IAmWithStupid wrote:
My fellow Canadian friends! We can speak about Mogul skiing (Congratz, btw) / Figure skating / Curling / etc. all day long... But honestly... The gold medal in hockey is all that matters! Am I right? Oh and as far as curling goes, Niklas gonna freakin' carry this shait all the way.
<<puts on his flame suit>>
the brier is harder to win than the olympics.
i like how they put canada and the usa in the same division for women's hockey to lower the # of blow outs.
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On February 09 2014 09:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
If there's going to be economic benefit from the Sochi Olympics it's going to be over time. As it was, Sochi was a second-class summer resort that was passed over for Crimea, Turkey, etc. It's trying to market itself as an all-around summer/winter resort now. So where does this leave the future of Sochi?
I don't know any comparable cases, the closest I can think of is Atlantic City, NJ going from a decrepit, worn-out version of Las Vegas to a family-friendly fun town. AC is in very similar conditions to that part of Russia, relatively speaking. Tons of money was injected by the state government into that (most of it into advertising), and in recent months there's been a lot of direct action from the state government to boost the city, overriding local authority. AC was (and if everything works out, will be) a huge moneymaker for New Jersey, and I think Putin's trying to make Sochi to be a potential huge moneymaker for Russia.
And like in Sochi, nothing in Atlantic City is going well... yet. The biggest casino, Revel, is scheduled to operate at a loss until 2017, and there's a lot of poverty/unemployment. Just like Europe vs. Sochi, there's also other family resorts close by that are more established which means people from New York are going to be going there, before coming to AC. Philadelphia might switch more easily. Putin isn't the most honest guy around, but he does have an interest in saying "we want to be in the center of everything", and Sochi is a great opportunity to do that. So based on what I see over here, Sochi is going to probably go through a few years of hard times as all of the efforts, assuming the effort keeps coming in of course, start to kick in. But then it will recover.
On the Russian side, Grozny looks very nice ever since it was bombed to shit in the 2000's, and Moscow/Petersburg have been growing because of the huge money flow that the two cities get. So yes, if Putin really wants Sochi to be a good city to visit, it will become a good city to visit.
ac is pretty much a warzone if you step outside of the casinos/convention center?
ac is only a money maker in spite of the surrounding area being camden-levels of shitty because for years it was the nearest large scale casino op. now that ny and pa are springing up casinos, even if they're small, ac profits have been shrinking. online gambling run through those casinos was a life raft tossed to struggling casinos.
that aside, i dont even think that it is a good comparison for this.
back on topic, that russian girl in figure skating holy shit
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On February 09 2014 14:31 QuanticHawk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 09:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
If there's going to be economic benefit from the Sochi Olympics it's going to be over time. As it was, Sochi was a second-class summer resort that was passed over for Crimea, Turkey, etc. It's trying to market itself as an all-around summer/winter resort now. So where does this leave the future of Sochi?
I don't know any comparable cases, the closest I can think of is Atlantic City, NJ going from a decrepit, worn-out version of Las Vegas to a family-friendly fun town. AC is in very similar conditions to that part of Russia, relatively speaking. Tons of money was injected by the state government into that (most of it into advertising), and in recent months there's been a lot of direct action from the state government to boost the city, overriding local authority. AC was (and if everything works out, will be) a huge moneymaker for New Jersey, and I think Putin's trying to make Sochi to be a potential huge moneymaker for Russia.
And like in Sochi, nothing in Atlantic City is going well... yet. The biggest casino, Revel, is scheduled to operate at a loss until 2017, and there's a lot of poverty/unemployment. Just like Europe vs. Sochi, there's also other family resorts close by that are more established which means people from New York are going to be going there, before coming to AC. Philadelphia might switch more easily. Putin isn't the most honest guy around, but he does have an interest in saying "we want to be in the center of everything", and Sochi is a great opportunity to do that. So based on what I see over here, Sochi is going to probably go through a few years of hard times as all of the efforts, assuming the effort keeps coming in of course, start to kick in. But then it will recover.
On the Russian side, Grozny looks very nice ever since it was bombed to shit in the 2000's, and Moscow/Petersburg have been growing because of the huge money flow that the two cities get. So yes, if Putin really wants Sochi to be a good city to visit, it will become a good city to visit. ac is pretty much a warzone if you step outside of the casinos/convention center? ac is only a money maker in spite of the surrounding area being camden-levels of shitty because for years it was the nearest large scale casino op. now that ny and pa are springing up casinos, even if they're small, ac profits have been shrinking. online gambling run through those casinos was a life raft tossed to struggling casinos. that aside, i dont even think that it is a good comparison for this. back on topic, that russian girl in figure skating holy shit + Show Spoiler +
That girl is amazing, gave me chills. Russian pair Stolbova and Klimov were quite awesome to watch as well.
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Yeah she absolutely killed it. And Agreed I really liked them a lot.
I don't understand figuring skating that much though. In singles, why'd the woman who bombed the triple axel get such a high score otherwise? nothing there seemed to be that great outside of that to make up for it. also, what's with the timer and bonus around 1:30?
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