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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 16:40:10
February 08 2014 16:25 GMT
#181
On February 09 2014 01:16 mjuuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 01:09 Otolia wrote:
On February 09 2014 00:59 mjuuy wrote:
On February 09 2014 00:43 Otolia wrote:
On February 09 2014 00:12 HolydaKing wrote:
Oh god I really hope Ole Einar Bjoerndalen gets another gold. Here probably not anymore but a medal seems possible.

Bjoerndalen does only half of the World Cup nowadays. Annoying as hell to see him winning here but the Olympics are always the place were bizarre things happen.

bizarre? Wtf, he has never train harder than for this Olympic.

Do you know of Soukup ? He only has 3 podium in his whole career. So yes, the Olympics lare always weird, just like this morning when Kotsenburg won the gold medal.

PS : And just like Vincent Jay who won in 2010 despite being nowhere near the top in his whole career.

Kotsenburg won because of the judges being bad, Bjørndalen won because he's a machine.

Bjørndalen won because he's a machine of his skis' technician.

Probably what happened as is usually the case for Sprint / Pursuit / Relay winners.

PS : If you want the course date : http://datacenter.biathlonresults.com - Apparently he won on the second shooting despite missing one. He must have gone all in on that one.
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
February 08 2014 16:32 GMT
#182
jesus that dudes hair
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IAmWithStupid
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Russian Federation1016 Posts
February 08 2014 16:53 GMT
#183
One good example of sportsmanship: Russian team gave Germans a preparation machine for polishing the skies, because German device was broken. Proof (in German language): http://www.faz.net/aktuell/sport/olympische-winterspiele/skisport/olympischer-geist-russen-helfen-den-deutschen-12790748.html
Insert wise words here
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13408 Posts
February 08 2014 16:55 GMT
#184
On February 09 2014 01:22 Darpa wrote:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/alleged-olympic-vote-swapping-deal-would-keep-canada-from-gold-1.2528489

Thats kind of depressing. Normally wouldnt believe some silly magazine trying to drum up interest, but given its happened before its hard not to take it seriously ><


Yeah pretty sad if its true
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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
February 08 2014 16:59 GMT
#185
On February 09 2014 01:55 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 01:22 Darpa wrote:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/alleged-olympic-vote-swapping-deal-would-keep-canada-from-gold-1.2528489

Thats kind of depressing. Normally wouldnt believe some silly magazine trying to drum up interest, but given its happened before its hard not to take it seriously ><


Yeah pretty sad if its true

It really is. That being sad, the results did´nt happen yet, so there is still the hope, that this is just wild speculation.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
February 08 2014 16:59 GMT
#186
On February 09 2014 01:55 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 01:22 Darpa wrote:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/alleged-olympic-vote-swapping-deal-would-keep-canada-from-gold-1.2528489

Thats kind of depressing. Normally wouldnt believe some silly magazine trying to drum up interest, but given its happened before its hard not to take it seriously ><


Yeah pretty sad if its true

L'equipe isn't a good journal, all hey can do is talk about football albeit as well as the Sun does. I would take this with a handful of salt :D
mjuuy
Profile Joined May 2012
Norway506 Posts
February 08 2014 16:59 GMT
#187
On February 09 2014 01:25 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 01:16 mjuuy wrote:
On February 09 2014 01:09 Otolia wrote:
On February 09 2014 00:59 mjuuy wrote:
On February 09 2014 00:43 Otolia wrote:
On February 09 2014 00:12 HolydaKing wrote:
Oh god I really hope Ole Einar Bjoerndalen gets another gold. Here probably not anymore but a medal seems possible.

Bjoerndalen does only half of the World Cup nowadays. Annoying as hell to see him winning here but the Olympics are always the place were bizarre things happen.

bizarre? Wtf, he has never train harder than for this Olympic.

Do you know of Soukup ? He only has 3 podium in his whole career. So yes, the Olympics lare always weird, just like this morning when Kotsenburg won the gold medal.

PS : And just like Vincent Jay who won in 2010 despite being nowhere near the top in his whole career.

Kotsenburg won because of the judges being bad, Bjørndalen won because he's a machine.

Bjørndalen won because he's a machine of his skis' technician.

Probably what happened as is usually the case for Sprint / Pursuit / Relay winners.

PS : If you want the course date : http://datacenter.biathlonresults.com - Apparently he won on the second shooting despite missing one. He must have gone all in on that one.

Bjørndalen always shoots really fast, you just recently started watching biathlon?
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IAmWithStupid
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Russian Federation1016 Posts
February 08 2014 17:03 GMT
#188
On February 09 2014 01:55 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 01:22 Darpa wrote:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/alleged-olympic-vote-swapping-deal-would-keep-canada-from-gold-1.2528489

Thats kind of depressing. Normally wouldnt believe some silly magazine trying to drum up interest, but given its happened before its hard not to take it seriously ><


Yeah pretty sad if its true

Let's wait for the actual performance and results before speculating. No judge can influence the result if execution is brilliantly good or awfully bad
Insert wise words here
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28831 Posts
February 08 2014 17:03 GMT
#189
Wow so happy about Bjørndalen, hadn't won for almost 2 years and everyone thinks he's over the hill (well he is, considering he was winning all the time, but still) and then he wins!!
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
February 08 2014 17:09 GMT
#190
On February 09 2014 01:59 mjuuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 01:25 Otolia wrote:
On February 09 2014 01:16 mjuuy wrote:
On February 09 2014 01:09 Otolia wrote:
On February 09 2014 00:59 mjuuy wrote:
On February 09 2014 00:43 Otolia wrote:
On February 09 2014 00:12 HolydaKing wrote:
Oh god I really hope Ole Einar Bjoerndalen gets another gold. Here probably not anymore but a medal seems possible.

Bjoerndalen does only half of the World Cup nowadays. Annoying as hell to see him winning here but the Olympics are always the place were bizarre things happen.

bizarre? Wtf, he has never train harder than for this Olympic.

Do you know of Soukup ? He only has 3 podium in his whole career. So yes, the Olympics lare always weird, just like this morning when Kotsenburg won the gold medal.

PS : And just like Vincent Jay who won in 2010 despite being nowhere near the top in his whole career.

Kotsenburg won because of the judges being bad, Bjørndalen won because he's a machine.

Bjørndalen won because he's a machine of his skis' technician.

Probably what happened as is usually the case for Sprint / Pursuit / Relay winners.

PS : If you want the course date : http://datacenter.biathlonresults.com - Apparently he won on the second shooting despite missing one. He must have gone all in on that one.

Bjørndalen always shoots really fast, you just recently started watching biathlon?

Except there is no reason to shoot fast when you are ahead. By the way, he is at 82% shot this year and was at 83% last year that's 6% behind Fourcade (who is having a bad year during the relays) and 8% behind Svendsen. That's noteworthy enough so why do you feel the need to be passive aggressive ?
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28831 Posts
February 08 2014 17:21 GMT
#191
Some people focus more on olympic medals/ championships, others do not. I have no problems accepting that Fourcade has been the best biathlon athlete the past 2 years, with Svendsen number two, but how can you take anything away from Bjørndalen? He's 40 years old. Of course he has to prioritize, and this is his last big competition, so he's sacrificing the rest of the year which is not all that important, and somehow manages to time his form so perfectly.. And I mean, he already has the most world cup victories out of any male winter sports athlete - surely he must be allowed to down-prioritize that?

For the record I believe he holds "most professional Norwegian athlete through all time" with a pretty distant margin - but I was still really surprised with him bouncing back and actually winning this, and even more so with him actually being the fastest skier. If he had won without missing and the other top dogs missed, I'd understand it, but this was like going 5 to 15 years back in time.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 08 2014 17:25 GMT
#192
On February 09 2014 01:59 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 01:55 ZeromuS wrote:
On February 09 2014 01:22 Darpa wrote:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/alleged-olympic-vote-swapping-deal-would-keep-canada-from-gold-1.2528489

Thats kind of depressing. Normally wouldnt believe some silly magazine trying to drum up interest, but given its happened before its hard not to take it seriously ><


Yeah pretty sad if its true

L'equipe isn't a good journal, all hey can do is talk about football albeit as well as the Sun does. I would take this with a handful of salt :D


They are the same journal that said Armstrong was doping like a year before he admitted to it, also same journal that said Jamie Sale and David Pelletier would lose votes to Russia before the event even started. After the event, the Canadian Pair had silver, and two judges admitted they were going to vote for the Russian pair regardless.

Who knows, maybe they just throw lots of shit at the wall, but I've seen a few of their stories stick before.

That, and these whole Olympics in the first place are corrupt, and have been since they were awarded 7 years ago. They were awarded to Sochi instead of Austria in what was a pretty public bribe from a Russian mobster.

Its sad, but corruption is kind of what I expected coming into the Russian games. Whats unfolded so far is far from telling me I'm wrong either; the games are 51 billion over budget, yet most simple amenities are not ready.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/02/05/15-signs-that-russia-is-not-very-ready-for-the-olympics/

Meanwhile Russians flog homosexuals to death in the streets and commit largescale genocide on Stray dogs.
nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
February 08 2014 17:30 GMT
#193
On February 09 2014 02:21 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Some people focus more on olympic medals/ championships, others do not. I have no problems accepting that Fourcade has been the best biathlon athlete the past 2 years, with Svendsen number two, but how can you take anything away from Bjørndalen? He's 40 years old. Of course he has to prioritize, and this is his last big competition, so he's sacrificing the rest of the year which is not all that important, and somehow manages to time his form so perfectly.. And I mean, he already has the most world cup victories out of any male winter sports athlete - surely he must be allowed to down-prioritize that?

For the record I believe he holds "most professional Norwegian athlete through all time" with a pretty distant margin - but I was still really surprised with him bouncing back and actually winning this, and even more so with him actually being the fastest skier. If he had won without missing and the other top dogs missed, I'd understand it, but this was like going 5 to 15 years back in time.


From what I've been reading about Bjørndalen, he should be in the consideration for one of the best athletes of all time imo, this Gold medal goes a long way to cementing that fact. Can't believe I'd never heard of him before. Albeit not a huge biathlon fan myself. Also not Norewegian
Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
February 08 2014 17:38 GMT
#194
On February 09 2014 02:21 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Some people focus more on olympic medals/ championships, others do not. I have no problems accepting that Fourcade has been the best biathlon athlete the past 2 years, with Svendsen number two, but how can you take anything away from Bjørndalen? He's 40 years old. Of course he has to prioritize, and this is his last big competition, so he's sacrificing the rest of the year which is not all that important, and somehow manages to time his form so perfectly.. And I mean, he already has the most world cup victories out of any male winter sports athlete - surely he must be allowed to down-prioritize that?

For the record I believe he holds "most professional Norwegian athlete through all time" with a pretty distant margin - but I was still really surprised with him bouncing back and actually winning this, and even more so with him actually being the fastest skier. If he had won without missing and the other top dogs missed, I'd understand it, but this was like going 5 to 15 years back in time.

I'm not taken anything away from Bjoerndalen, Landertinger or Soukup (who by the way had an even more impressive performance than OEB because he is not a top athlete in any way), I'm just annoyed at the storyline. Yes it's amazing that he can still compete but cross-country skiing is a sport where you can do that. I just wanted to see at duel between Svendsen and Fourcade. It's a matter of personal preference

Still I'm a little foolish to believe it would happen in Sprint though. I would like to see Svendsen bounce back in Pursuit. And then we can have the real duel in Individual / Mass Start.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28831 Posts
February 08 2014 17:47 GMT
#195
Cross-country skiing is not usually a sport where 40 year olds are competitive to be honest, most retire in their early-mid thirties, and those who keep going almost never win anything.. And especially not the shorter distances. If my data is correct, he became the oldest individual olympic gold medal winner through this anyway.

I understand wanting to see Svendsen vs Fourcade - but the sprint isn't really the great "man vs man duel" distance anyway, I think the mass start is gonna deliver though, imo that's the most exciting olympic event.
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Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
February 08 2014 18:02 GMT
#196
On February 09 2014 02:47 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Cross-country skiing is not usually a sport where 40 year olds are competitive to be honest, most retire in their early-mid thirties, and those who keep going almost never win anything.. And especially not the shorter distances. If my data is correct, he became the oldest individual olympic gold medal winner through this anyway.

I understand wanting to see Svendsen vs Fourcade - but the sprint isn't really the great "man vs man duel" distance anyway, I think the mass start is gonna deliver though, imo that's the most exciting olympic event.

Indeed, mass start cross-country is one of my favourites. Hopefully Northug will deliver.
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lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 18:15:52
February 08 2014 18:11 GMT
#197
On February 09 2014 00:37 ZeromuS wrote:
I mean, I'm happy we won, and I'm happy it wasnt a worse blowout. Remember 8 years ago? No one even came close to scoring on Canada or the US, and they would blow everyone completely out of the water worse than this.


ummm,
Sweden defeated the USA in a shootout in the semi final game and won Silver 8 years ago.
they did get stomped in the gold medal game.

20 years ago the rest of the world was a lot worse... so there is more "parity" over all.

1 thing is for sure... its way better than NHL regular season hockey.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13408 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 18:16:27
February 08 2014 18:14 GMT
#198
On February 09 2014 03:11 lamprey1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 00:37 ZeromuS wrote:
I mean, I'm happy we won, and I'm happy it wasnt a worse blowout. Remember 8 years ago? No one even came close to scoring on Canada or the US, and they would blow everyone completely out of the water worse than this.


ummm,
Sweden defeated the USA in a shootout in the semi final game and won Silver 8 years ago.
they did get stomped in the gold medal game.

20 years ago the rest of the world was a lot worse... so things there is more "parity" over all.

1 thing is for sure... its way better than NHL regular season hockey.


Im referencing women's hockey.

98 silver - US gold

2002-2010 all 3 golds

And all the teams have a very hard time against Canada and yeah, 2006 SWE beat US and i misremembered :x but no other team has come close sadly. The program needs time to grow in other hockey countries is all.
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
February 08 2014 18:16 GMT
#199
Interesting thing to note is that although both him and Daehli have 12 winter Olympic medals now making them the most successful winter athletes of all time, Daehli got 8 golds compared to Ole, which arguably puts him ahead. If Bjorndalen would manage to grab another gold, tho, there would be no basis for arguments.

Putting statistics and numbers aside I think Bjorndalen cemented his status as one of the biggest athletes of all time w/ this surprise win. His performance was so beautiful I was really ashamed to have written him down before the event after being his devoted fan for 14 years now.

What a man, what an athlete, really, no one but Federer comes to my mind from the past decade or so.
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lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
February 08 2014 18:17 GMT
#200
On February 09 2014 03:14 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 03:11 lamprey1 wrote:
On February 09 2014 00:37 ZeromuS wrote:
I mean, I'm happy we won, and I'm happy it wasnt a worse blowout. Remember 8 years ago? No one even came close to scoring on Canada or the US, and they would blow everyone completely out of the water worse than this.


ummm,
Sweden defeated the USA in a shootout in the semi final game and won Silver 8 years ago.
they did get stomped in the gold medal game.

20 years ago the rest of the world was a lot worse... so things there is more "parity" over all.

1 thing is for sure... its way better than NHL regular season hockey.


Im referencing women's hockey.

98 silver - US gold

2002-2010 all 3 golds


ya, so am i. i'm referencing women's hockey as well.
here is your quote

Remember 8 years ago? No one even came close to scoring on Canada or the US, and they would blow everyone completely out of the water worse than this

Sweden finished tied 2-2 with the USA in the semi-final game and won in a shootout.
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