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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Xialos
Canada508 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Well okay, you might get 1 goal, but only if Luongo has pity. | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
Ovechkin is just bad at shootouts. nothing more nothing less but its okay. And its not the ''leaving Gretzky on the bench'' type of mistake either. edit: Its Russia ffs. as far as we know Putin mightve texted the coach the players he wanted in the shootout  | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On February 16 2014 04:49 Sub40APM wrote: Crosby. Malkin is Kunitz 2.0. Someone who would be repeatedly exposed if he couldnt benefit from an amazing player. He cant even win a draw. Your series of posts here are the dumbest thing I've read in this thread. 105 points in 82 playoff games, including a Conn Smythe Never been below a point per game in the playoffs 11-12 season: Crosby only plays 22 games, Malkin gets 109 points in 75 games, winnin him the Art Ross, Hart and Ted Lindsay Malkin and Crosby rarely play together even strength, but it's only because of Crosby that Malkin has success? What? As for Ovechkin choking against Pittsburgh... You realise that there are other players on the team, right? Game 6, facing elimination: Ovechkin gets 3 points +3, getting the most points on his team that game to take it to game 7. Game 7, his team gets crushed 6-2, but he's still able to get an unassisted goal. So according to you, not being able to score 6 goals in a game is choking? Again, 2010, his team gets destroyed. Datsyuk, who according to you is the far superior player, also did nothing. In fact, the only star player on the team to get a point was Malkin. But never mind that, it's all Ovechkin and Malkin's fault. I mean, do you ACTUALLY believe what you're saying here? | ||
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Nausea
Sweden807 Posts
On February 16 2014 07:46 Fishball wrote: + Show Spoiler + A Volunteer bathing in the sun ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tbvKBOs.jpg) Whoops, posted in the hockey thread instead of the main Olympics thread. Oh well  OMG could it? ... is it? could it possible be?!.... A GURL!!!!!!!!!! Next olympics I will be going, there's gurl there. | ||
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
On February 16 2014 06:23 lamprey1 wrote: either team could be eliminated in that game. so its a big game. the 2006 result for Canada was analyzed and re-analyzed. Brodeur played great. But, Ovechkin did a great job and proved how talented a goal scorer he is. but, that is only half the story. this guy also says Malkin sucks. i'm waiting for your defense of how a 28 year old with 36 career playoff goals and 1 Conn Smythe trophy sucks. LOL This forum is good for a laugh though... we have a guy on here insisting the 2009 Conn Smythe winner only got it because of Crosby.. and Crosby was not even on his line. LOL back to Ovechkin TRY ACTUALLY WATHCING THE ACTUAL GAME. any time the goalie leaves his crease its a risk. WATCH how often Quick came out to challenge Ovechkin on his shot. WATCH how often Quick came out that far against any other Russian Shooter. Jonathan Quick is telling you THROUGH HIS ACTIONs and not his words that Ovechkin is a DANGEROUS SNIPER. Great Goalie versus Great Sniper. why not just enjoy the show rather than trying to say that Quick Sucks.. Ovechkin sucks .. and on and on... lol. I never said he wasnt dangerous, and i never said he wasnt talented, and I certainly never said he sucked. I never said he wasn't a goal scorer. I also never mentioned malkin or quick Im just saying that historically speaking, ovekchin isnt as dominant when his team needs it most. One example of an arguable game from almost 10 years ago doesnt really refute years of playoffs. Thats all I am saying. I still think hes the best player on the russian team and super dangerous. But like I said, alot of top guys have habits of being no shows in big games because they always face the best defensive pairing, and in this case, hes facing some of the best possible pairings in the world. I also watched that game live when it happened, he wasnt all that special. I think you need to take a breather. | ||
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EiBmoZ
Canada235 Posts
so now Malkin is shit eh bud? what about Doughty an Carter? are they still scrubs like you claimed they were this summer... you are a fool, stop talking hockey b/c you don't have a clue.. the Red Wings don't need clueless fans like you. | ||
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L1ghtning
Sweden353 Posts
On February 16 2014 02:52 lamprey1 wrote: Jonathan Quick was fucking awesome. where is our resident TL.Net goaltending expert ? the guy who thinks the Bernier trade was a "pretty stupid move". LOL a bullshit way to end a game. as far as i'm concerned the female curling team should be wearing bikinis like the olympic beach volleyball girls do. CBC gives us the ice temperature.. the open air temperature... and the humidity. Quick played well, but so did Bobrovski, which is what you expect from two solid goalies. Quick tackling his goalpost, and TJ Oshie won USA the game. Oshie is nr 1 in the NHL in shootout goals, 7 goals and 70% shootout rate. So he actually underperformed in this shootout, with 3 goals in 6 tries. Amazing player. I wonder why they give him so little ice time. The games I've seen of him in the blues, he's always been such a dominant player with the puck, and that's the kind of players you need in the olympics. On February 16 2014 04:49 Sub40APM wrote: Crosby. Malkin is Kunitz 2.0. Someone who would be repeatedly exposed if he couldnt benefit from an amazing player. He cant even win a draw. Are you for real? Malkin and Ovechkin played well in that game, especially Malkin. They just didn't score, but USA defended really well and gave Russia very few quality chances. It's nice to see Russia playing well. I think I've overestimated the importance of the 3rd and 4th line. The medal race looks a lot more open now. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7103 Posts
On February 16 2014 08:00 Xialos wrote: Hey Finland, how scared are you for tomorrow? You're going to get exterminated, mouahahah. (7-0) + Show Spoiler + Well okay, you might get 1 goal, but only if Luongo has pity. sorry were already celebrating victory in sauna, cant hear you <3 | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On February 16 2014 08:18 GolemMadness wrote: Your series of posts here are the dumbest thing I've read in this thread. 105 points in 82 playoff games, including a Conn Smythe Never been below a point per game in the playoffs 11-12 season: Crosby only plays 22 games, Malkin gets 109 points in 75 games, winnin him the Art Ross, Hart and Ted Lindsay Malkin and Crosby rarely play together even strength, but it's only because of Crosby that Malkin has success? What? As for Ovechkin choking against Pittsburgh... You realise that there are other players on the team, right? Game 6, facing elimination: Ovechkin gets 3 points +3, getting the most points on his team that game to take it to game 7. Game 7, his team gets crushed 6-2, but he's still able to get an unassisted goal. So according to you, not being able to score 6 goals in a game is choking? Again, 2010, his team gets destroyed. Datsyuk, who according to you is the far superior player, also did nothing. In fact, the only star player on the team to get a point was Malkin. But never mind that, it's all Ovechkin and Malkin's fault. I mean, do you ACTUALLY believe what you're saying here? Yes, Malkin is a regular season super hero just like Ovechkin, Just like Ovechkin when he is stripped of his supporting cast of non-Russians he becomes irrelevant -- well, except that one tournament that he won in 2012 all by himself while most of hte NHL was still playing in the playoffs. Ovechkin is invisible past the first round of the playoff, and the vast bulk of his playoff points come from playing the 8th seed those few years the Caps actually looked like a relevant playoff team. After that, back to team invisible. Datsyuk is plays the full ice, his lack of goals also represents a lack of goals from opposing players. Malkin and Ovechkin start playing from the neutral zone out, their lack of goals represent the totality of their contribution. Its true, as he is getting older his contribution declines because he doesnt have nearly as much speed, so its not surprising that team Russia keeps getting worse and worse but at least he won an Olympic medal at one point. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On February 16 2014 08:40 EiBmoZ wrote: Sub40APM at it again eh? so now Malkin is shit eh bud? what about Doughty an Carter? are they still scrubs like you claimed they were this summer... you are a fool, stop talking hockey b/c you don't have a clue.. the Red Wings don't need clueless fans like you. Without Quick they'd never touch a gold medal or a cup. But just like Chris Kunitz some Canadian players just get genuinely lucky and are surrounded by once-in-a-generation talent that elevates them to places they dont belong. | ||
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On February 16 2014 08:00 Xialos wrote: Hey Finland, how scared are you for tomorrow? You're going to get exterminated, mouahahah. (7-0) + Show Spoiler + Well okay, you might get 1 goal, but only if Luongo has pity. you'll probably win because two of the refs are canadian. + Show Spoiler + i went there  | ||
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lamprey1
Canada919 Posts
On February 16 2014 09:05 Sub40APM wrote: Without Quick they'd never touch a gold medal or a cup. But just like Chris Kunitz some Canadian players just get genuinely lucky and are surrounded by once-in-a-generation talent that elevates them to places they dont belong. lol.... Malkin was not on Crosby's line in the 2009 Stanley Cup. and if u followed the finals its clear Crosby was injured at the end of that series... and Malkin's line won game 7. the guys at CBC are smart enough to tell who the best player is on a line and they have NEVER MADE AN ERROR when it comes to handing out the Conn Smythe. Furthermore, he has 36 playoff goals. if you'll kindly list all the crap players who have more than 36 playoff goals that'd be great. as well, please list all the crap players with 15+ goals in a playoffs Reggie Leach, Claude Lemieux, Maurice Richard... ok... who else. lol. i wish Malkin were Canadian, but he ain't. Other countries are more than capable of producing super star level players which is why the BETTING LINE on this Tourney is so even. Because any one of 6 countries could win it. The betting line has been published in this thread somewhere. Check it out guy. On February 16 2014 09:05 Sub40APM wrote: Without Quick they'd never touch a gold medal wrong, do u even watch the games? the USA has a good team. its quite a treat to watch all this amazing talent from all these teams. enjoy the show guy. http://www.thestar.com/sports/sochi2014/hockey/2014/02/12/mens_olympic_hockey_tournament_simply_too_close_to_call_cox.html | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OQhVBPT.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AqNUFJP.jpg) Vladamir Putin offers TJ Oshie 500 billion dollars to join KHL | ||
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KelianQatar
303 Posts
On February 16 2014 08:40 EiBmoZ wrote: Sub40APM at it again eh? so now Malkin is shit eh bud? what about Doughty an Carter? are they still scrubs like you claimed they were this summer... you are a fool, stop talking hockey b/c you don't have a clue.. the Red Wings don't need clueless fans like you. +1 User was warned for this post | ||
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ii.blitzkrieg
Canada1122 Posts
Looking forward to Canada v Finland tomorrow. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On February 16 2014 09:03 Sub40APM wrote: Yes, Malkin is a regular season super hero just like Ovechkin, Just like Ovechkin when he is stripped of his supporting cast of non-Russians he becomes irrelevant -- well, except that one tournament that he won in 2012 all by himself while most of hte NHL was still playing in the playoffs. Ovechkin is invisible past the first round of the playoff, and the vast bulk of his playoff points come from playing the 8th seed those few years the Caps actually looked like a relevant playoff team. After that, back to team invisible. Datsyuk is plays the full ice, his lack of goals also represents a lack of goals from opposing players. Malkin and Ovechkin start playing from the neutral zone out, their lack of goals represent the totality of their contribution. Its true, as he is getting older his contribution declines because he doesnt have nearly as much speed, so its not surprising that team Russia keeps getting worse and worse but at least he won an Olympic medal at one point. So basically, you just ignore everything I say and continue to ramble on about how bad Malkin and Ovechkin are. Here, I'll lay it out nice and simple for you: Malkin has 97 points in 83 playoff games Malkin has over a point per game in every single playoff year Malkin has won a Conn Smythe and a Stanley Cup Malkin does not play on a line with Crosby for the vast majority of his even strength TOI 2009 Stanley Cup Finals: Crosby is injured and not as effective against Detroit, getting just 3 points. Pittsburgh is only able to score 14 goals in the 7 game series. Malkin gets 8 points, meaning he was in on over half of the team's points. Wow, what a terrible playoff performer. Ovechkin in the 2008 playoffs vs Philadelphia: 4 goals and 9 points in 7 games. He gets a goal and an assist in their 3-2 game 7 loss against Philadelphia. Ovechkin in the 2009 playoffs vs Pittsburgh: 8 goals and 14 points in 7 games, doubling his points in round 1 against NYR. He gets one of the team's two goals in their game 7 loss. Ovechkin in the 2010 playoffs vs Montreal: 5 goals and 10 points in 7 games. In game 7, he gets an assist on the team's only goal in a 2-1 loss. Ovechkin in the 2011 playoffs vs Tampa Bay: 2 goals and 4 points in 4 games. In that round, Backstrom gets 1 point, Semin gets 2 points and Mike Green gets 1 point. Ovechkin is the only one amongst Washington's star players to get a point in their eliminating loss. While in the past couple of years Ovechkin hasn't been as effective as his past self, the conclusion here is very obviously that Ovechkin was a dominant force in the playoffs, and the reason for his team's eliminations had absolutely nothing to do with him not performing. So basically, you have no idea what you're talking about. | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On February 16 2014 11:38 GolemMadness wrote: While in the past couple of years Ovechkin hasn't been as effective as his past self, the conclusion here is very obviously that Ovechkin was a dominant force in the playoffs, and the reason for his team's eliminations had absolutely nothing to do with him not performing. So basically, you have no idea what you're talking about. What the heck do you mean not as effective? Over the last 4 years Ovechkin is averaging about 34 goals and 85 points. This year alone he is 40G/20A in 55GP. Assuming he maintains this pace he will have 59G/38A at seasons end. That would be a career high in goals and 4th highest point total. The guy hasn't lost a step and his terrible +/- is attributed to the fact that he has 22 other players helping him suck at defense. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 16 2014 08:07 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: lol at all the JRR alts tearing it up. Ovechkin is just bad at shootouts. nothing more nothing less but its okay. And its not the ''leaving Gretzky on the bench'' type of mistake either. edit: Its Russia ffs. as far as we know Putin mightve texted the coach the players he wanted in the shootout loool. Yeah, so much JJR. I dont understand why people still argue with him. On February 16 2014 11:53 Orcasgt24 wrote: What the heck do you mean not as effective? Over the last 4 years Ovechkin is averaging about 34 goals and 85 points. This year alone he is 40G/20A in 55GP. Assuming he maintains this pace he will have 59G/38A at seasons end. That would be a career high in goals and 4th highest point total. The guy hasn't lost a step and his terrible +/- is attributed to the fact that he has 22 other players helping him suck at defense. Then how come his +/- is the worst on his team by like 20? | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On February 16 2014 12:05 iCanada wrote: Then how come his +/- is the worst on his team by like 20? He's -17. Next up is -10. little less then 20 Top 5 Capitals ice time leaders for the power play:
Ovechkin spends alot of time on the power play(over a whole game in time more). So he is on the ice for most of Washingtons PP goals. PP goals do not effect +/- | ||
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