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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 23:15:33
April 28 2014 23:14 GMT
#1321
On April 29 2014 08:04 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 08:02 farvacola wrote:
You'll be fine autoexec; MtlGuitarist is just being a Debbie downer.

I'm not trying to turn him away from it. I just think that if someone's going to make a decision about using a substance, they should at least know the possible side effects of it. George Leeman posted pictures of his back after he took something as *seemingly* harmless as testosterone and it caused some pretty terrible scarring. I think that weed is perfectly fine as long as you're responsible, but worrying about your strength should be an after thought.

In that case, you ought to include weed's potential to make bulking and sleeping a lot easier
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
April 28 2014 23:20 GMT
#1322
On April 29 2014 08:04 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 08:02 farvacola wrote:
You'll be fine autoexec; MtlGuitarist is just being a Debbie downer.

I'm not trying to turn him away from it. I just think that if someone's going to make a decision about using a substance, they should at least know the possible side effects of it. George Leeman posted pictures of his back after he took something as *seemingly* harmless as testosterone and it caused some pretty terrible scarring. I think that weed is perfectly fine as long as you're responsible, but worrying about your strength should be an after thought.


I very much doubt that his back went from pristine to deeply scarred just because he used "testosterone" which I take to mean testosterone.

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The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-29 00:13:06
April 28 2014 23:23 GMT
#1323
3/8 Cannabis users will be assassinated.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 23:44:10
April 28 2014 23:43 GMT
#1324
So this just in: InfiniteElgintensity was banned for copyright infringement.

Thoughts? Comments? He's the one that always made those voice over videos of CrossFitters being...well CrossFitters.. He talked a lot of shit for someone that wasn't nearly as strong as some of the people he made fun of, but I don't necessarily disagree with his viewpoints.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 23:55:59
April 28 2014 23:51 GMT
#1325
It's well known that Youtube has a 'shoot first ask questions later and probably never' policy on Copyright Infringement. In some cases, it's even an automated process with no questions asked.

The Reddit mentality group think sometimes became unbearable, but 90% of the criticisms he made were well deserved.

On April 29 2014 08:43 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
So this just in: InfiniteElgintensity was banned for copyright infringement.

Thoughts? Comments? He's the one that always made those voice over videos of CrossFitters being...well CrossFitters.. He talked a lot of shit for someone that wasn't nearly as strong as some of the people he made fun of, but I don't necessarily disagree with his viewpoints.


Worst argument ever.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
April 28 2014 23:56 GMT
#1326
I wasn't trying to make an argument. He just called a lot of them shitty athletes then proceeded to 'shrug" and call himself different variations of names that revolved around the word traps (his traps aren't even that big).

Calling someone a shitty athlete for deadlifting 360 lbs sounds reasonable at first, until you realize that he deadlifted 420 lbs (with not so great form I may add) which isn't really that impressive. It's more of a kettle, meet pot type of situation. I don't necessarily think he was wrong either, but making fun of people for their lifts and doing nothing but adding toxicity to the community while not even being that great of a lifter yourself is pretty pathetic.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
April 29 2014 00:14 GMT
#1327
I don't know how someone could watch those videos and come to that conclusion. Calling Froning a hypocrite for not using CrossFit Methodology for the CrossFit games does not require a base strength threshold.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
April 29 2014 00:20 GMT
#1328
On April 29 2014 09:14 Jerubaal wrote:
I don't know how someone could watch those videos and come to that conclusion. Calling Froning a hypocrite for not using CrossFit Methodology for the CrossFit games does not require a base strength threshold.

What? He's made videos calling basically every CrossFitter a shitty athlete. I never said anything about his calling Froning a hypocrite. Actually, I was more referring to his comments about Castro's deadlifting and squatting, but whatever. I don't like Castro either and I think he's an arrogant prick, but voicing over videos and barely posting videos helping people is a bit retarded. He should've focused on his own lifts and improving himself, not on constantly whining about CrossFitters and how bad they are at lifting.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
April 29 2014 00:49 GMT
#1329
On April 29 2014 09:20 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 09:14 Jerubaal wrote:
I don't know how someone could watch those videos and come to that conclusion. Calling Froning a hypocrite for not using CrossFit Methodology for the CrossFit games does not require a base strength threshold.

What? He's made videos calling basically every CrossFitter a shitty athlete. I never said anything about his calling Froning a hypocrite. Actually, I was more referring to his comments about Castro's deadlifting and squatting, but whatever. I don't like Castro either and I think he's an arrogant prick, but voicing over videos and barely posting videos helping people is a bit retarded. He should've focused on his own lifts and improving himself, not on constantly whining about CrossFitters and how bad they are at lifting.


I think you're watching a different reality from me.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
April 29 2014 01:03 GMT
#1330
Well, for a few weeks I'm pretty much grounded. My car is going to be in the shop so I'll be without it for 2 weeks or so; as I live close enough to work to bike there I can avoid paying for a rental.

Now, my gym is ~30 mins drive away from me, so there's no realistic way that I could go to the gym at anywhere near the frequency I could before until I get my vehicle back. So in the meantime, what can I do?

I mean, there's probably not a lot I can be doing to increase my squats or cleans, etc without a set of weights, but are there other things I can do? I have access to a local park; I have seen some people doing crazy body weight training, but I can't even do a pull up on my own yet (started at 260, down to 212, still very weak in the arms/back) so I don't know if that's really an option....

I'm continuing to do my regular cardio (4.25 miles walk in the morning 5-6 days a week, run 3 times a week).

Any tips would be great
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
April 29 2014 02:03 GMT
#1331
WTF happened to this thread

on the bulking/dieting down thing, I think the biggest concern should be that trying to gain muscle is not an excuse for becoming a fatass. Without being on gear, putting anything above 20 pounds of lean mass a year is almost impossible (unless you are a motivated 6 foot 160 pound noob or smth). Therefore, your calory surplus should match that and not much more.

I've been doing lean "bulking" for a few weeks and can def done, but I'm centering all my life around it. last week I quit booze until my next powerlifting meet (may 27) and I basically want to get down to 10% bf, mantain weight, and gain as much strength as possible.

Elegant was very funny and a reasonable guy, he never called Fronning a bad athlete (he said he was a sick athlete, but most likely on gear and def not doing crossfit programing from his training)
Nothing wrong with shitting on Castro, making fun of kipping pull ups, or some of the crossfit gyms that resemble planet fitness and Mark Cheng or smth.
The guy didn't pretend to be an incredible powerlifter or anything, he made fun of stuff that was painfully ridiculous.

BP: 137.5kgx3x3 (PR), 100kg x10 x7 x4
Squat: 190kgx1, 170kgx5x5(PR)
10 mins on a bench like this
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Tricep push down/curl superset
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
April 29 2014 04:01 GMT
#1332
I want my 182kg back squat again.

.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20021 Posts
April 29 2014 04:08 GMT
#1333
Quit being a bum and take it then. Got a light sprain in my wrist after catching a clean funny then having a 125kg rugby player crush it with his knee later that day.

Today
Squatz - 70 120 150 170 190 200 210 220 225 228x (flew out of the hole on this one but got owned by the sticking point) then 200x3 205x2 (fail 3rd) 200x3
Some light clean and jerks up to 100 as my wrist allowed
Clean grip snatches up to 80kg
BB Row 3x8 @ 90kg
Weighted planks 10kgx3x60sec

CG snatches are fun and challenging and don't bother my wrist too much. Might do them for a bit just to keep my speed and mobility up while wrist heals
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-29 09:13:55
April 29 2014 09:13 GMT
#1334
On April 29 2014 13:01 funkie wrote:
I want my 182kg back squat again.

.

How much are you squatting currently? And Elginsentisy has every fucking right to point out when pro scrossfitters don't hit depth or can't do a regulation deadlift. That has nothing to do with his PRs.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15328 Posts
April 29 2014 22:07 GMT
#1335
Very interesting take on the ridiculous grind Hollywood actors have to go through these days:

http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/print-view/building-a-bigger-action-hero-20140418
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Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-30 02:27:05
April 30 2014 01:04 GMT
#1336
I started training this guy from my gym, I have him doing a version of the LSUS cycle. He has really good athletic background (national champ in steeplechase) so he's very disciplined in that sense, and he was starting to get pretty decent at crossfit. Only on week 2 but he claims he has always had really good recovery, so far he's proving it lol. He wants to get to the Crossfit Games, so we made a long term plan for him: for the first year we're gonna focus on building a solid strength/weightlifting base. We basically dropped all cardio longer than 7 min, just doing short high intensity workouts 2-3 times a week for him to maintain his skills (HSPU, muscle ups, etc). Excited to see how it goes!

Yesterday:

Snatch 170x2 185 195 205x (2) 195 200 205x 195 200 205 200 205 210 220x 220x
CJ 220 235 250 260x 235 245 235 245x 235 245
Clean pull 295x3x3

Today:

a.m.
Squat 265 295 315 340x3 325x3 315x3
Sn pull + power snatch 135 x 6 sets
Power clean + 4 push press 185x3 sets

p.m.
sn pull + 5 sec negative + sn + high hang sn 135 155 165 185 200x

http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
April 30 2014 02:13 GMT
#1337
On April 30 2014 07:07 zatic wrote:
Very interesting take on the ridiculous grind Hollywood actors have to go through these days:

http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/print-view/building-a-bigger-action-hero-20140418


Meh. People do very close to that and don't even get paid millions of dollars to do it. It's so tragic to hear about dieting stars who get paid to drop all the extra fat they've been carrying around.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
April 30 2014 02:36 GMT
#1338
On April 30 2014 11:13 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2014 07:07 zatic wrote:
Very interesting take on the ridiculous grind Hollywood actors have to go through these days:

http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/print-view/building-a-bigger-action-hero-20140418


Meh. People do very close to that and don't even get paid millions of dollars to do it. It's so tragic to hear about dieting stars who get paid to drop all the extra fat they've been carrying around.


Yeah, I'd do it for free if they gave me a support crew and the food/supplements.

PC & PP: 95kgx1, 100kgx1 (PR), 90 x1 x2 x1 (tired as shit)

Clean High pulls 100kgx3x3
Clean Deadlift 120kgx5x3
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
April 30 2014 03:17 GMT
#1339
On April 29 2014 18:13 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 13:01 funkie wrote:
I want my 182kg back squat again.

.

How much are you squatting currently? And Elginsentisy has every fucking right to point out when pro scrossfitters don't hit depth or can't do a regulation deadlift. That has nothing to do with his PRs.


Nothing, haha.

Haven't squatted in so long. Gonna join a crossfit gym and slowly abuse their equipment to do oly lifts .
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20021 Posts
April 30 2014 04:02 GMT
#1340
On April 30 2014 10:04 Donkeys wrote:
I started training this guy from my gym, I have him doing a version of the LSUS cycle. He has really good athletic background (national champ in steeplechase) so he's very disciplined in that sense, and he was starting to get pretty decent at crossfit. Only on week 2 but he claims he has always had really good recovery, so far he's proving it lol. He wants to get to the Crossfit Games, so we made a long term plan for him: for the first year we're gonna focus on building a solid strength/weightlifting base. We basically dropped all cardio longer than 7 min, just doing short high intensity workouts 2-3 times a week for him to maintain his skills (HSPU, muscle ups, etc). Excited to see how it goes!

Yesterday:

Snatch 170x2 185 195 205x (2) 195 200 205x 195 200 205 200 205 210 220x 220x
CJ 220 235 250 260x 235 245 235 245x 235 245
Clean pull 295x3x3

Today:

a.m.
Squat 265 295 315 340x3 325x3 315x3
Sn pull + power snatch 135 x 6 sets
Power clean + 4 push press 185x3 sets

p.m.
sn pull + 5 sec negative + sn + high hang sn 135 155 165 185 200x

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4STPybiDVs&feature=youtu.be


Strong tights. Post a couple side angle views of your lifts, want to see why you're jumping forward on the snatch (less so on the clean). Coaching a couple lifters myself (except i'm making up the programming lol). Hoping at least one can qualify for the american open this year and the other has a shot to qualify for nationals if she lifts at a meet in time.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
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