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SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5448 Posts
January 02 2015 03:09 GMT
#3441
I like this guy's form:

IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
January 02 2015 03:28 GMT
#3442
That's not powerlifting though. Why does he call it that?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
kaluro
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands760 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-02 13:39:03
January 02 2015 12:37 GMT
#3443
I hit my goals for past year, wanted a 5x100kg bench, ended up with a 1x120kg and 8x102.5kg bench.



I suffered from a knee injury, which disallowed me to do any lower body for 10 months straight.
My current stats:

1x120kg bench
1x75kg overhead press
4x100kg squat (But I managed to do 11x92.5kg, so it's still a technical issue).
1x155kg deadlift.

I want to get my squat to 150kg this yaer, my deadlift hopefully to 200kg.
I'm currently in week 3 of my cut:

[image loading]

Pre cut stats: 192cm @ 90.3kg
Right now: 192cm @ 87.2kg
Note: A lot of my missing weight is from my lower body, since i only started training that again in late october last year.

On January 02 2015 12:28 IgnE wrote:
That's not powerlifting though. Why does he call it that?


Because he squats high bar?
He seems to be focussing on relatively low rep squats for strength, just because he didn't test his true 1rm doesn't mean it's not powerlifting right?
www.twitch.tv/kaluroo - 720p60fps - Remember the name! - Don't do your best, do whatever it takes.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
January 02 2015 13:59 GMT
#3444
On January 02 2015 21:37 kaluro wrote:
I hit my goals for past year, wanted a 5x100kg bench, ended up with a 1x120kg and 8x102.5kg bench.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsDYu-9dyYQ

I suffered from a knee injury, which disallowed me to do any lower body for 10 months straight.
My current stats:

1x120kg bench
1x75kg overhead press
4x100kg squat (But I managed to do 11x92.5kg, so it's still a technical issue).
1x155kg deadlift.

I want to get my squat to 150kg this yaer, my deadlift hopefully to 200kg.
I'm currently in week 3 of my cut:

[image loading]

Pre cut stats: 192cm @ 90.3kg
Right now: 192cm @ 87.2kg
Note: A lot of my missing weight is from my lower body, since i only started training that again in late october last year.

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On January 02 2015 12:28 IgnE wrote:
That's not powerlifting though. Why does he call it that?


Because he squats high bar?
He seems to be focussing on relatively low rep squats for strength, just because he didn't test his true 1rm doesn't mean it's not powerlifting right?


IMO whether it's powerlifting or not isn't about the technique or the weight or even the goal. If you compete in powerlifting meets, it's powerlifting. If you don't, it's not. Like shooting a basketball alone in your driveway and never joining a team or playing a pickup game isn't "playing basketball" no matter how good you get. Powerlifting is a very specific sport. What he's doing is just lifting.
kaluro
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands760 Posts
January 02 2015 14:11 GMT
#3445
On January 02 2015 22:59 phyre112 wrote:
IMO whether it's powerlifting or not isn't about the technique or the weight or even the goal. If you compete in powerlifting meets, it's powerlifting. If you don't, it's not. Like shooting a basketball alone in your driveway and never joining a team or playing a pickup game isn't "playing basketball" no matter how good you get. Powerlifting is a very specific sport. What he's doing is just lifting.



Interesting approach, I view it like so:

- Powerlifting -> Strength training where the primary goal is to get your Squat/Deadlift/Bench press 1RM up as high as possible.
- Powerbuilding -> Strength training with strength and mass as equal primary goals
- Bodybuilding -> Strength Training where hypertrophy is the #1 goal, not caring about strength gains. (This will eventually include more isolations to bring up lacking muscle groups and to promote symmetry)

They all have the same means (strength training) to different eventual goals.
In basketball it isn't basketball until you meet very specific rules (Playing field, team sizes etc).
Powerlifting is a solo sport, no matter whether you go to meets or not.

Or are you not practicing for example.. kickboxing when you don't attend to meets/tournaments?
When you're just practicing technique day in day out, against a boxing bag?

I do get your point though, but what else would you call someone who's trying to get super strong on the 'big 3' in the gym, for over years? What sport is he doing? You can't just call it 'strength training'.

www.twitch.tv/kaluroo - 720p60fps - Remember the name! - Don't do your best, do whatever it takes.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20063 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-02 14:29:47
January 02 2015 14:27 GMT
#3446
Strength training is exactly what I would call it. If you never compete than you're not playing a sport you're just practicing (which is fine if that's what you want to do). It's not like you have to even be good to compete, anyone can and should at whatever they love doing for fun and to test their limits. If you just play against AI or custom games in SC but never ladder would you call yourself a starcraft player?

On December 30 2014 12:23 IgnE wrote:
What are the #comebacksupplements?


It's Pat mendes's supplement line. Most of it is BS or overpriced or both. The protein doesn't seem unreasonable but I've never tried it. The preworkout is actually pretty competitively priced and a decent supp.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
January 02 2015 15:19 GMT
#3447
On January 02 2015 23:27 decafchicken wrote:
Strength training is exactly what I would call it. If you never compete than you're not playing a sport you're just practicing (which is fine if that's what you want to do). It's not like you have to even be good to compete, anyone can and should at whatever they love doing for fun and to test their limits. If you just play against AI or custom games in SC but never ladder would you call yourself a starcraft player?

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On December 30 2014 12:23 IgnE wrote:
What are the #comebacksupplements?


It's Pat mendes's supplement line. Most of it is BS or overpriced or both. The protein doesn't seem unreasonable but I've never tried it. The preworkout is actually pretty competitively priced and a decent supp.


If you play poker against an AI on a phone app all day, are you a poker player? No. I agree, strength training is exactly what I would call it.

Is the preworkout something you would recommend Decaf? I'm looking for a new one right now, but it seems like 99% of the preworkouts out there are just caffiene, creatine, and 5 other ingredients in miniscule amounts to fluff the label up.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20063 Posts
January 02 2015 15:25 GMT
#3448
Yeah it was decent. Pretty comparable to c4 or whatever generic preworkout. Caffeine, creatine, beta alinine, arginine are going to be the staples in pretty much any preworkout. And 29$ for 37 servings I think which is solid.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-03 11:15:08
January 03 2015 11:14 GMT
#3449
Can anyone show me an elite powerlifter who squats high bar? I don't think it's possible to compete.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
January 03 2015 11:55 GMT
#3450
On January 03 2015 20:14 IgnE wrote:
Can anyone show me an elite powerlifter who squats high bar? I don't think it's possible to compete.

Tom Martin. I'll link some videos of him, but he had to rebuild his squat after an injury and is the strongest guy in the UK for his weight class.



I agree though, most top powerlifters would never be able to do that and compete. I think it just hurts you way too much in terms of your mechanical advantage.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
January 03 2015 13:09 GMT
#3451
On January 03 2015 20:14 IgnE wrote:
Can anyone show me an elite powerlifter who squats high bar? I don't think it's possible to compete.

Eric Lilliebridge used to squat high bar but he switched to low bar 1-2 years ago. He had atleast 1 world record with high bar though.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20063 Posts
January 03 2015 19:31 GMT
#3452
Dan green trains it quite a bit but obviously low bars for competition

how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
January 04 2015 06:01 GMT
#3453
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=833866256650615

You guys have to read the comments on that video.

It just gave me like 30mins of laughs.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
January 05 2015 17:41 GMT
#3454
On December 30 2014 12:23 IgnE wrote:
What are the #comebacksupplements?


I would assume he's referring to Pat Mendes's new company Comeback Supplements
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20063 Posts
January 05 2015 18:38 GMT
#3455
Press 165lb/75kg 3x5 - fairly confident this is an all time PR
Dips + 20lb 4x8
DB Press 55lb 3x6
Tricepz

Felt good to hit some sort of PR for the first time in approximately forever. Dunno if I'm up to cracking my 205lb 1RM for press but soon. Hopfully I can keep up the linear progression on the press for a few more weeks. Weighed in at ~226lb today. Damn holidays. Back to working out a lot more and eating a lot less junk. Doing a meet next weekend, might actually fill out the 105kg class for the first time :p Just going to be doing power snatch and power clean/jerk.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
January 05 2015 18:54 GMT
#3456
I tried to squeeze some legs in last night and did squats and then clean. Probably ill-advised. Banged my thumb on my knee on a miss, still hurts
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
January 05 2015 19:44 GMT
#3457
There's a 2015 thread to post in now you scrubs
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15353 Posts
January 05 2015 20:48 GMT
#3458
It's been another great year fr TLHF! Keep it up folks!
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