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GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
December 23 2014 16:09 GMT
#3421
On December 24 2014 00:42 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2014 00:05 decafchicken wrote:
On December 23 2014 23:53 JinDesu wrote:
On December 23 2014 14:11 decafchicken wrote:
I think sub 3 minutes is pretty good


Sub 3 minutes per round? Or sub 3 for all 3 rounds?

Reading this quote, it seems 3 minutes per round:

"Breaking the three-minute mark is a big accomplishment,” says Parker. “The top male scorers in the world finish in around two minutes, which is incredible when you think about doing 45 thrusters and 45 pull-ups in that time.”


For the whole thing. Just saw someone from my gym who's decently strong (squat 400 dl 500) and fit but not the best lifter (technique/mobility) do it in 2:55

I've done fran with kettlebells (50-60 lbs each) in around 7 minutes. I imagine barbells are a lot easier though, especially for someone like me. The pull ups were the real killer for me, but that's also when I was fucking awful at pull ups. Once this shoulder tendinitis goes down I might give fran a shot now that I have a little bit of upper body strength and the pull ups won't completely kill me.

Side note, what's a good 2k row time? 7:20 was pretty tiring but I feel like I could get sub 7 with a bit more work/effort.


Unless I'm misunderstanding something, 3 rounds of 45 squats, 45 presses, and 45 pullups (21, 15, 9) would be 3 rounds of 135 movements, or a total of 405 movements - so I'm assuming when you say "whole thing" you mean one round, because 405 movements in 180 seconds seems superhuman.




He is already tired as shit since this is done midway trough the crossfit games
If you can kip and are conditioned (I've actively avoid conditioning last 2 years) you should be in the 3-5 min range (considered "advanced" in crossfit)
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
December 23 2014 16:35 GMT
#3422
On December 24 2014 01:07 decafchicken wrote:
The 21, 15, 9 are each a separate round. I.E. Three rounds of thrusters and pull ups at 21, 15, 9 reps.

I think triple fran is equivalent to suicide.


Ohhhh that's the clarification, thanks! My apologies for the misunderstanding.

Now my goal is triple fran. Or suicide.
Yargh
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 23 2014 16:55 GMT
#3423
Did fran with my brother in law today. Finished in 5:07. If I had known the time I might have been able to get sub-5. Forearms so pumped afterwards though, could barely close my hands.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 23 2014 20:04 GMT
#3424
Stomach flu for the past two days. Literally shit and vomited my gains down the toilet.

But it gives you perspective. When you're healthy you're all like "man I wish I was ripped, had a sweet girlfriend and a nice car" but when you have stomach flu you're down to "please oh please can I just stop vomiting for 2 seconds".
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
December 23 2014 22:12 GMT
#3425
It's a killer ab workout though.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-24 02:51:47
December 23 2014 23:47 GMT
#3426
My only Fran is in the mid 5s but I was actually doing crossfit at the time. I may or may not have hit depth on all the thrusters, (honestly don't know, no video) but I definitely locked them out.

Froning IS superhuman, so him doing triple Fran isn't that crazy.

I was rowing a 2k in the mid 7s over the summer (again, doing crossfit) without knowing much about technique. I'm sure you could pull a sub 7 decaf.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
December 26 2014 14:33 GMT
#3427
I did grace in 1:33.

Fuck lief.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5461 Posts
December 27 2014 00:42 GMT
#3428
What do you guys think of squatting with your heels on 2.5kg plates? So damn easy to go AtG but is it just hurting myself in the long run, somehow?
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 27 2014 01:02 GMT
#3429
No it's not hurting you except insofar as it's less stable than a shoe with lifts. It's basically a faux shoe lift. If you like the plates just buy oly shoes.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
December 28 2014 18:17 GMT
#3430
On December 24 2014 00:05 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 23:53 JinDesu wrote:
On December 23 2014 14:11 decafchicken wrote:
I think sub 3 minutes is pretty good


Sub 3 minutes per round? Or sub 3 for all 3 rounds?

Reading this quote, it seems 3 minutes per round:

"Breaking the three-minute mark is a big accomplishment,” says Parker. “The top male scorers in the world finish in around two minutes, which is incredible when you think about doing 45 thrusters and 45 pull-ups in that time.”

Side note, what's a good 2k row time? 7:20 was pretty tiring but I feel like I could get sub 7 with a bit more work/effort.

I pull 6:36 for a 2k after about 2 months of training. My cardio was, and is, pretty fucking horrendous. Olympic heavyweights pull around 5:45-5:50 for a 2k. I'm hoping to be around 6:15 by the end of this year. sub 7 minutes, for a non-lightweight is a very poor time for a college athlete; there's definately former athletes that pull below 6:30 on their first 2k. You should be capable of pulling below 6:45 with some training for sure.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
December 29 2014 21:44 GMT
#3431
http://instagram.com/p/xH8vKkwCOm/?modal=true

My legs are so small worked up to 110kg power clean and jerk, heaviest since i fucked my knee up
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
December 30 2014 01:29 GMT
#3432
On December 30 2014 06:44 decafchicken wrote:
http://instagram.com/p/xH8vKkwCOm/?modal=true

My legs are so small worked up to 110kg power clean and jerk, heaviest since i fucked my knee up


decafchickenlegs

Use sweatpants for a while :p
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 30 2014 03:23 GMT
#3433
What are the #comebacksupplements?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
December 30 2014 05:54 GMT
#3434
So I participated in a teachers vs students basketball game a few weeks ago and boy did that kick my ass. Few things test your conditioning like basketball. Now I'm just wondering what I can do to get a little bit more in shape. I'm not overweight by much, but I could stand to lose about 5 pounds. I know two guys who go to gyms. One is actual crossfit, the other seems to be crossfit without some of the retardation. I wish I could just play basketball to get back in shape, but that's not really available for my area. Sadface.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-30 19:19:43
December 30 2014 19:17 GMT
#3435
I've started to do some lift 2 and a half years ago.
At that time I was probably the skiniest dude alive while having a fat belly (Yeah that's not supposed to be possible to see your ribs while beiing able to grab your love handle but trust me it is).

Anyway after a lot of swiming, running and Westside for Skinny Bastards plus some kettlebell lately (Usually 5-10h a week total) I want to start (and focus on) Oly.

I've found a gym not too far and I will be able to go 3 times a week at first (Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday) then 4 from March.

So where do I start ?
First the shoes :
I've found that same price with the port, which one would you take ? :
Adidas
Do-Win

Then the plan (It's the one I was using last year with Oly in replacement for bodybuilding):
I was thinking to do something along those lines :
Monday and Wednesday + Friday starting from March :
Warm Up (Mainly the ones I used for bodybulding + sets of mouvements with an empty barbell)
Snatch : 8 Sets of Doubles
Clean and Jerk :8 Sets of Singles
Front Squat: 5 Sets of 5
Military Press : 5 Sets of 3

I will be starting at what 50% BW ? and then adding weight is form is ok (and how do I know that, I ask people at the gym ? I've always train alone, I'm really socially awkward)

Tuesday and Thurday :
1h Swimming at noon
1h Running early evening

Saturday :
Snatch/C&J with an empty barbel/Broom stick to learn the movements
Sometimes swimming

Sunday :
Rest and mobility stuff (usually hips).

Does it seems ok ?

And please no don't run you will lose your gain stuff, I'm only good at one sport and that is running !
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
December 30 2014 19:31 GMT
#3436
On December 31 2014 04:17 Philozovic wrote:
Then the plan (It's the one I was using last year with Oly in replacement for bodybuilding):
I was thinking to do something along those lines :
Monday and Wednesday + Friday starting from March :
Warm Up (Mainly the ones I used for bodybulding + sets of mouvements with an empty barbell)
Snatch : 8 Sets of Doubles
Clean and Jerk :8 Sets of Singles
Front Squat: 5 Sets of 5
Military Press : 5 Sets of 3

I will be starting at what 50% BW ? and then adding weight is form is ok (and how do I know that, I ask people at the gym ? I've always train alone, I'm really socially awkward)

Tuesday and Thurday :
1h Swimming at noon
1h Running early evening

Saturday :
Snatch/C&J with an empty barbel/Broom stick to learn the movements
Sometimes swimming

Sunday :
Rest and mobility stuff (usually hips).

Does it seems ok ?

And please no don't run you will lose your gain stuff, I'm only good at one sport and that is running !


Can't help on the shoes, I don't own a pair yet. I did running and weight training over the summer and lost like 30lbs of fat and gained 10 in muscle (in conjunction with a diet). Running on an off day isn't so bad as long as you take it for improving your breathing and just to get your blood pumping on an off day. Running before or after a leg day is a good way to wreck yourself for the week though (not that you will "lose" your gain, but that you'll just be too tired to properly focus on the rest of your schedule). Basically, if you want to swim or run, just make sure it's at a pace that doesn't overwork any recently exercised muscles.

On December 30 2014 14:54 Jerubaal wrote:
So I participated in a teachers vs students basketball game a few weeks ago and boy did that kick my ass. Few things test your conditioning like basketball. Now I'm just wondering what I can do to get a little bit more in shape. I'm not overweight by much, but I could stand to lose about 5 pounds. I know two guys who go to gyms. One is actual crossfit, the other seems to be crossfit without some of the retardation. I wish I could just play basketball to get back in shape, but that's not really available for my area. Sadface.


If you are aware of what good form is, a Crossfit gym isn't a bad choice. You'd be surprised at how hard it'll push you if you do it correctly. Losing weight is dieting though, so you may want to re-evaluate your diet if you just want to lose 5 pounds. If you want to gain endurance and improve your cardio, then try the Crossfit gym.
Yargh
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
December 31 2014 00:49 GMT
#3437
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2013/02/from-16-to-8-body-fat-in-10-weeks.html

Bottom line: Crossfit appears to be the high intensity workout regimen which can help experienced trainees to make the transition from lean to ripped!

As exciting as this may seem, a brief glance at the data in figure 1 will yet also tell you that those who are not up to the intensity and athletic demands of crossfitting don't just risk getting injured (please read the red box further up in the article, as well), they are also wasting their time with a workout that's not designed for their fitness level an will thus yield suboptimal results. This may not necessarily be the case in absolute terms - after all -4% body fat reduction certainly is not bad, but that's -4% from a pretty chubby baseline of 33% and actually could be achieved with basically any well-planned nutrition + exercise regimen. The latter obviously cannot be said of the -50% relative reduction in body fat percentage in the lean subjects on the other side of the "body fat divide". These men and women are most likely people who have been working out for all their lives in one way or another.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18863 Posts
December 31 2014 13:58 GMT
#3438
Good article, that's exactly why I cringe whenever some newbie spends 2 months cross fitting and then all of a sudden they're a fitness expert and there's no way they'd have achieved such results in such a short time.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
January 01 2015 12:23 GMT
#3439
So are we making a new thread for the new year, or do we want to just hold onto this thread?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
January 01 2015 20:02 GMT
#3440
Hmm just saw on the Tough Mudder site they explicitly say no running multiple laps... :\ anyone done that recently?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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