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mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
March 03 2013 22:56 GMT
#221
A pity only merc and ferrari did low fuel runs.
Anyone has timing data from last testing day? f1tests.info wasnt covering sunday...
oh in the sun sun having fun
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 04 2013 09:42 GMT
#222
Day Four timesheet
1. Nico Rosberg, Mercedes, 1:20.130, 131 laps, Soft tyres.
2. Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, 1:20.494, 120 laps, Soft tyres.
3. Jenson Button, McLaren, 1:21.444, 122 laps, Unmarked tyres.
4. Nico Hulkenberg, Sauber, 1:21.541, 118 laps, Soft tyres.
5. Kimi Raikkonen, Lotus, 1:21.658, 50 laps, Soft tyres.
6. Paul di Resta, Force India, 1:21.664, 112 laps, Tyres unknown.
7. Pastor Maldonado, Williams, 1:22.415, 42 laps, Tyres unknown.
8. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 1:22.514, 100 laps, Unmarked tyres.
9. Valtteri Bottas, Williams, 1:22.524, 31 laps, Soft tyres.
10. Charles Pic, Caterham, 1:23.115, 116 laps, Tyres unknown.
11. Jules Bianchi, Marussia, 1:23.167, 62 laps, Tyres unknown.
12. Daniel Ricciardo, Toro Rosso, 1:23.628, 91 laps, Tyres unknown.
13. Max Chilton, Marussia, 1:24.103, 49 laps, Tyres unknown.
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mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
March 04 2013 12:59 GMT
#223
Thanks but ive seen those. I meant live timing... nevermind.

On a side note. When posting his best time Fernando was faster than Nico in both S1 and S3. Mercedes was faster by 4/10 of second in Sector 2 though.

source :
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/03/barcelona-test-2-day-4-rosberg-keeps-mercedes-on-top-as-testing-ends/
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Sok4R
Profile Joined November 2006
Germany124 Posts
March 04 2013 13:16 GMT
#224
It was reported that both Mercedes drivers used their DRS everywhere they could, while Alonso only used it on the start/finish-straight. Since this is not allowed during races and qualifiying, you can add up to 4/10 to the time of Hamilton and Rosberg.
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Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
March 04 2013 14:26 GMT
#225
On March 04 2013 22:16 Sok4R wrote:
It was reported that both Mercedes drivers used their DRS everywhere they could, while Alonso only used it on the start/finish-straight. Since this is not allowed during races and qualifiying, you can add up to 4/10 to the time of Hamilton and Rosberg.

I find that very hard to believe.
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mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
March 04 2013 14:55 GMT
#226
Interesting. Merc being fast over single lap wouldnt be a surprise though, as that was also the case year ago.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 04 2013 15:10 GMT
#227
They only started fast last year in Qualifying though. After like race 5 they started to go backwards, and just about fought for the last few places of Q3
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Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
March 04 2013 16:42 GMT
#228
Williams-Renault and now McLaren-Honda, ahh the good old days are back
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grindC
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany274 Posts
March 04 2013 17:04 GMT
#229
On March 05 2013 01:42 Aristodemus wrote:
McLaren-Honda


Wut? Is it officially happening?
Sok4R
Profile Joined November 2006
Germany124 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 17:48:40
March 04 2013 17:44 GMT
#230
On March 04 2013 23:26 Aristodemus wrote:
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On March 04 2013 22:16 Sok4R wrote:
It was reported that both Mercedes drivers used their DRS everywhere they could, while Alonso only used it on the start/finish-straight. Since this is not allowed during races and qualifiying, you can add up to 4/10 to the time of Hamilton and Rosberg.

I find that very hard to believe.

I'm looking for the source, can't find it right now. Anyway, Mercedes was quick in qualifiying in the first half of last season, but in the race they killed their tyres (and had a lot of technical problems, especially at Schumachers car). I don't think they lost that edge, but it won't help that much in the race. Also, it is well known that Hamilton is one of the best on one-lap-runs and Rosberg is a well rounded driver without any speciality, but also without a particular weakness.

€dit: just found it:http://www.motorsport-magazin.com/formel1/news-163324-nach-den-tests-die-top-teams-im-vergleich-verschiebt-sich-die-hierarchie.html
German site, the info is in the first part of the Ferrari-Part quickly translated:
While Rosberg used his DRS at every approriate place of the track, observers saw rear wing activity on Alonsos car only on the start/finish straight[...]

But yeah, it wouldn't make much sense to use it that way, since it is not allowed at the races.

On March 05 2013 02:04 grindC wrote:
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On March 05 2013 01:42 Aristodemus wrote:
McLaren-Honda


Wut? Is it officially happening?

Their are rumors for quiet some time, but nothing official. According to the latest, Honda management is deciding between F1 and LMP1 to develop new engines. Not sure if they can get it untill 2014, maybe in 2015 and McLaren will be for one more season with Mercedes engines.
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kierpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States757 Posts
March 05 2013 01:53 GMT
#231
Kimi's new steering wheel:

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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51576 Posts
March 05 2013 01:58 GMT
#232
Why doesn't McLaren just make its own engines? I mean, if they can make the engine for the MP4-12C, I don't see any reason that they can't develop their own independently.
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Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
March 05 2013 22:10 GMT
#233
On March 05 2013 10:58 GTR wrote:
Why doesn't McLaren just make its own engines? I mean, if they can make the engine for the MP4-12C, I don't see any reason that they can't develop their own independently.


McLaren didn't build the engine for MP4-12C themselves, it was developed in partnership with a British engineering company (forgot the name, sorry), and afaik the external guys did most of the work there. Companies like Honda or Mercedes have tons of experience and talent to draw from, and are always interested in investing money into motor sports development as many of the technologies used in today's racing cars are going to be utilized in future road cars. This kind of partnership really benefits both sides.
kierpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States757 Posts
March 06 2013 17:38 GMT
#234
On March 06 2013 07:10 Salazarz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 10:58 GTR wrote:
Why doesn't McLaren just make its own engines? I mean, if they can make the engine for the MP4-12C, I don't see any reason that they can't develop their own independently.


McLaren didn't build the engine for MP4-12C themselves, it was developed in partnership with a British engineering company (forgot the name, sorry), and afaik the external guys did most of the work there. Companies like Honda or Mercedes have tons of experience and talent to draw from, and are always interested in investing money into motor sports development as many of the technologies used in today's racing cars are going to be utilized in future road cars. This kind of partnership really benefits both sides.



Ricardois the company behind the engine.
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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
March 06 2013 18:00 GMT
#235
Developing an F1 engine requires a lot. Knowhow, facilities, and not least funding. I've read $100 million figures, and that's before in-season development. As opposed to probably free engines, technical exchange programs, possibly sponsorship. I mean it's not like McLaren will ever lack an engine supplier.

Also, a bit from the Autosport article about the Merc (By former McLaren mechanic Marc Priestley):
Mercedes

After some installation laps from several cars, Lewis Hamilton's Mercedes and the McLaren of Sergio Perez start a run. We're expecting some qualifying simulations, so we should see the 2013 cars at their current best.

Marc is immediately impressed by the Mercedes F1 W04. "The Mercedes looks a bit better through here than the McLaren, a bit more planted, with a slightly better change of direction," he says.

"It's probably worth noting that Perez is using the kerb a lot more than Lewis, who looks a bit more controlled.


Mercedes is looking good, according to Priestley © LAT
"The Mercedes also looks a bit softer in terms of roll; it squats down on the right rear. If the car's a little bit oversteery, giving it a little more roll can help. But it's a trade-off because you don't want so much it throws the weight around."

Hamilton is then too hot into Turn 1 and runs wide. Later, he also has a moment at the Turn 7 left-hander, briefly losing the rear end.

Next time through he's still on it and again looks impressive. "It's got really good change of direction," adds Priestley.

"I think there's a bit of a feeling Mercedes is playing things down massively. From what I've seen they're coming on quite nicely."
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eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
March 07 2013 06:28 GMT
#236
gahhhh 8 days until Melbourne. I cannot wait.
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
March 07 2013 07:04 GMT
#237
Rooting for Sauber&Lotus this season, but I would also like to see STR do better than fighting with williams for worst-not-backmarker-team -_-
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zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 19:30:07
March 07 2013 19:28 GMT
#238
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2013 Formula 1 Rolex Australian Grand Prix (Melbourne, March 15th-17th)
Option: Supersoft - Prime: Medium

Practice 1: Friday, Mar 15 1:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)
Practice 2: Friday, Mar 15 5:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)
Practice 3: Saturday, Mar 16 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
Qualifying: Saturday, Mar 16 6:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
Race: Sunday, Mar 17 6:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)



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Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 07 2013 21:39 GMT
#239
Wow, great graphics!

So excited!
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
March 07 2013 21:44 GMT
#240
Praise the Shiro! PonyTales is nothing, F1 is where it's at!

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