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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 23:10:26
January 09 2013 23:09 GMT
#161
So Hall of Fame voting today...no one got in this year in the standard balloting process. Here are the results:

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A player is eligible for 15 years on the standard ballot if they receive at least 5% of the vote the previous year. In order to get in, a player must receive at least 75% of the vote. What do you guys think? Any surprises here? Seeing the votes that Biggs got, I think he is a shoe in either next year of the following. Morris might actually get in next year as well, it will be his last shot.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
January 10 2013 06:25 GMT
#162
I'm a little torn on the steroids dilemma. Right now, I'm glad no one suspected of steroids made it in.

Being a Mariner's fan, I'm sad Edgar Martinez is still making no head way in the votes. There was a good blog I read on his career and the hall of fame. http://www.proballnw.com/article/262/edgar-martinez-and-the-career-he-deserved/
=)=
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
January 10 2013 07:00 GMT
#163
Bernie Williams and Kenny Lofton falling off is really sad. Neither really deserves to be in the HoF, if it was MY Hall of Fame, but they were both very very good players. Don Mattingly at least got his years on the Ballot. I'm also mildly surprised that the voters didn't just push Morris in a dying gasp attempt to validate antiquated narrative building.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 10 2013 08:28 GMT
#164
My childhood hatred of the Yankees kind of clouds my judgment concerning Williams so I won't comment one way or the other on him. It definitely feels odd that Kenny Lofton garnered so little support. He was exceptional in his role, it just so happens his role didn't really involve hitting tons of home runs or driving in bunches of runs. He was either always playing his way into the playoffs on a great team, or playing his way into a trade to a team that was going to the playoffs. I can understand him not making it, I just can't understand him having so little support.

Was his name somehow connected to steroids and I haven't heard it/don't remember it?
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 10 2013 08:32 GMT
#165
Don't believe Lofton was connected to roids, but he played during the era, which might lead to lower appreciation for what he brought to the table since everyone else was roided up and producing ridiculous numbers.

Also, who gave Aaron Sele a vote? Holy fuck lol.
God Bless
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
January 10 2013 13:29 GMT
#166
On January 10 2013 16:00 slyboogie wrote:
Bernie Williams and Kenny Lofton falling off is really sad. Neither really deserves to be in the HoF, if it was MY Hall of Fame, but they were both very very good players. Don Mattingly at least got his years on the Ballot. I'm also mildly surprised that the voters didn't just push Morris in a dying gasp attempt to validate antiquated narrative building.


I have to agree with you. Both of those guys (Lofton and Williams) were amazing players (as well as Finley) that were great baseball men as well as people you knew would always contribute to your teams. Yeah, maybe not Hall material, but definitely examples of how the game really should be played.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
January 11 2013 05:59 GMT
#167
On January 10 2013 17:32 Roffles wrote:
Also, who gave Aaron Sele a vote? Holy fuck lol.

That 4.61 Career ERA deserves a vote.

Honestly, this type of year was going to come out of the steroid scandal, where the voters would not vote anyone associated in that era. Of course, there will be a few that get in eventually, like Biggio and Piazza.

On the other hand, I don't know if Morris will ever make it. I don't see writers would vote for him after the 15 Year Eligibility is up, and there are a few candidates that are practically shoo-ins for next year. His career accomplishments are about the playoffs, but his regular season stats aren't very good (3.90 Career ERA).
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
January 13 2013 01:15 GMT
#168
On January 11 2013 14:59 Phelix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 17:32 Roffles wrote:
Also, who gave Aaron Sele a vote? Holy fuck lol.

That 4.61 Career ERA deserves a vote.

Honestly, this type of year was going to come out of the steroid scandal, where the voters would not vote anyone associated in that era. Of course, there will be a few that get in eventually, like Biggio and Piazza.

On the other hand, I don't know if Morris will ever make it. I don't see writers would vote for him after the 15 Year Eligibility is up, and there are a few candidates that are practically shoo-ins for next year. His career accomplishments are about the playoffs, but his regular season stats aren't very good (3.90 Career ERA).


I do really hope (and am convinced) that Biggs will get in, but I was never sold on Piazza...pretty good hitter, but not outstanding, and he was a god-awful catcher. I always saw him as an overrated player, but then again because it was the steroid era, it might earn him a few extra points.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 16 2013 00:06 GMT
#169
Nats and Rafael Soriano agree to 2 year, $28M deal, with $14M option for third year.

The option reportedly rests on whether the right-hander finishes 120 games combined over 2013 and 2014...Washington will lose its first-round draft pick, and the Yankees will gain an extra pick after the first round.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
January 16 2013 00:21 GMT
#170
On January 16 2013 09:06 Ferrose wrote:
Nats and Rafael Soriano agree to 2 year, $28M deal, with $14M option for third year.

Show nested quote +
The option reportedly rests on whether the right-hander finishes 120 games combined over 2013 and 2014...Washington will lose its first-round draft pick, and the Yankees will gain an extra pick after the first round.

About time he got a deal...opted out a $14 Million Option, to get a 2 Yr, $14-Mil Average contract. I think he priced himself out of the market since all the other relievers were grabbed early, but a good deal nonetheless to compete with Atlanta's bullpen.
Clippard, Storen, and Soriano makes a fierce 7-8-9 combination.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
January 16 2013 00:33 GMT
#171
And their rotation is so loaded they won't even need to use relievers in those innings half the time >____>
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17924 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-16 21:29:49
January 16 2013 20:37 GMT
#172
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2013/01/16/darren_oliver_returns_to_blue_jays_in_2013/

yeaaa!!!!

Darren Oliver will be interviewed on Prime Time Sports tonight at 6:40 pm..
i'll be interested to see what he has to say as opposed to the PR spin coming from his agent the past few months.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
January 17 2013 04:47 GMT
#173
On January 17 2013 05:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2013/01/16/darren_oliver_returns_to_blue_jays_in_2013/

yeaaa!!!!

Darren Oliver will be interviewed on Prime Time Sports tonight at 6:40 pm..
i'll be interested to see what he has to say as opposed to the PR spin coming from his agent the past few months.

Didn't he want a significant raise over his last contract of $3 Million? I guess since Texas didn't have any interest in him, he didn't have many other options but to play in Toronto. Good for the Jays and him as well.

Michael Morse rumored to be traded in a three-way deal to Seattle...This move makes zero sense for Seattle at all, since they don't have a spot for him except DH, and he has stated that he doesn't like it.

C - Jesus Montero
1B/DH - Justin Smoak
1B/DH - Kendrys Morales
1B - Mike Carp (Yes, I know he's the backup 1B, but Smoak can go one of those terrible slumps)
LF/DH - Raul Ibanez

Where will they stick Morse unless they have decided to end the experiment of developing Smoak/Carp...none of the players have great defense. Seattle really prays that Montero can catch; if they don't, they will even have bigger problems.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
January 17 2013 04:58 GMT
#174
On January 17 2013 13:47 Phelix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 05:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2013/01/16/darren_oliver_returns_to_blue_jays_in_2013/

yeaaa!!!!

Darren Oliver will be interviewed on Prime Time Sports tonight at 6:40 pm..
i'll be interested to see what he has to say as opposed to the PR spin coming from his agent the past few months.

Didn't he want a significant raise over his last contract of $3 Million? I guess since Texas didn't have any interest in him, he didn't have many other options but to play in Toronto. Good for the Jays and him as well.

Michael Morse rumored to be traded in a three-way deal to Seattle...This move makes zero sense for Seattle at all, since they don't have a spot for him except DH, and he has stated that he doesn't like it.

C - Jesus Montero
1B/DH - Justin Smoak
1B/DH - Kendrys Morales
1B - Mike Carp (Yes, I know he's the backup 1B, but Smoak can go one of those terrible slumps)
LF/DH - Raul Ibanez

Where will they stick Morse unless they have decided to end the experiment of developing Smoak/Carp...none of the players have great defense. Seattle really prays that Montero can catch; if they don't, they will even have bigger problems.

It was confirmed quite a while ago. I'm sad about the trade - loved having Morse on the team, great guy. Disastrous fielder, especially in the OF, but tons of fun, massive bat. Maybe SEA could stick him at SS? That's where he originally was in their organization
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17924 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 07:08:52
January 17 2013 07:07 GMT
#175
On January 17 2013 13:47 Phelix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 05:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2013/01/16/darren_oliver_returns_to_blue_jays_in_2013/
yeaaa!!!!
Darren Oliver will be interviewed on Prime Time Sports tonight at 6:40 pm..
i'll be interested to see what he has to say as opposed to the PR spin coming from his agent the past few months.

Didn't he want a significant raise over his last contract of $3 Million? I guess since Texas didn't have any interest in him, he didn't have many other options but to play in Toronto. Good for the Jays and him as well.
Michael Morse rumored to be traded in a three-way deal to Seattle...This move makes zero sense for Seattle at all, since they don't have a spot for him except DH, and he has stated that he doesn't like it.
C - Jesus Montero
1B/DH - Justin Smoak
1B/DH - Kendrys Morales
1B - Mike Carp (Yes, I know he's the backup 1B, but Smoak can go one of those terrible slumps)
LF/DH - Raul Ibanez
Where will they stick Morse unless they have decided to end the experiment of developing Smoak/Carp...none of the players have great defense. Seattle really prays that Montero can catch; if they don't, they will even have bigger problems.


Darren Oliver denied he "personally" asked for a raise in the interview i alluded to in my post.
He threw his Agent under the bus.. .and then drove the bus over his agent 3 or 4 times.
Darren is a good pitcher.. and really bad liar.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
January 17 2013 08:18 GMT
#176
On January 17 2013 13:47 Phelix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 05:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2013/01/16/darren_oliver_returns_to_blue_jays_in_2013/

yeaaa!!!!

Darren Oliver will be interviewed on Prime Time Sports tonight at 6:40 pm..
i'll be interested to see what he has to say as opposed to the PR spin coming from his agent the past few months.

Didn't he want a significant raise over his last contract of $3 Million? I guess since Texas didn't have any interest in him, he didn't have many other options but to play in Toronto. Good for the Jays and him as well.

Michael Morse rumored to be traded in a three-way deal to Seattle...This move makes zero sense for Seattle at all, since they don't have a spot for him except DH, and he has stated that he doesn't like it.

C - Jesus Montero
1B/DH - Justin Smoak
1B/DH - Kendrys Morales
1B - Mike Carp (Yes, I know he's the backup 1B, but Smoak can go one of those terrible slumps)
LF/DH - Raul Ibanez

Where will they stick Morse unless they have decided to end the experiment of developing Smoak/Carp...none of the players have great defense. Seattle really prays that Montero can catch; if they don't, they will even have bigger problems.


Not a lot is making sense for the Mariners right now. I still think they have another trade in the works.

Enjoy John Jason, Oakland fans. That mofo is clutch
=)=
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
January 17 2013 12:21 GMT
#177
On January 17 2013 16:07 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 13:47 Phelix wrote:
On January 17 2013 05:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2013/01/16/darren_oliver_returns_to_blue_jays_in_2013/
yeaaa!!!!
Darren Oliver will be interviewed on Prime Time Sports tonight at 6:40 pm..
i'll be interested to see what he has to say as opposed to the PR spin coming from his agent the past few months.

Didn't he want a significant raise over his last contract of $3 Million? I guess since Texas didn't have any interest in him, he didn't have many other options but to play in Toronto. Good for the Jays and him as well.
Michael Morse rumored to be traded in a three-way deal to Seattle...This move makes zero sense for Seattle at all, since they don't have a spot for him except DH, and he has stated that he doesn't like it.
C - Jesus Montero
1B/DH - Justin Smoak
1B/DH - Kendrys Morales
1B - Mike Carp (Yes, I know he's the backup 1B, but Smoak can go one of those terrible slumps)
LF/DH - Raul Ibanez
Where will they stick Morse unless they have decided to end the experiment of developing Smoak/Carp...none of the players have great defense. Seattle really prays that Montero can catch; if they don't, they will even have bigger problems.


Darren Oliver denied he "personally" asked for a raise in the interview i alluded to in my post.
He threw his Agent under the bus.. .and then drove the bus over his agent 3 or 4 times.
Darren is a good pitcher.. and really bad liar.


if he does want to retire, why wouldnt you want your final year to be with a [potentially] blockbuster team? an extra 3 mill in the bank wont hurt either
starleague forever
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
January 18 2013 06:12 GMT
#178
Oh dear, Napoli lost $34 Million guaranteed due to a physical (The reason was that he has a bad hip). Now with the Red Sox for 1 Yr-5 Mil with incentives up to 13 Mil.

And here comes the arbitration signings...
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51698 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-19 14:58:21
January 19 2013 14:58 GMT
#179
Earl Weaver, Baltimore Orioles manager and video game pioneer passes away aged 82.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/earl-weaver-dead-82-article-1.1243096
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
January 20 2013 00:57 GMT
#180
On January 19 2013 23:58 GTR wrote:
Earl Weaver, Baltimore Orioles manager and video game pioneer passes away aged 82.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/earl-weaver-dead-82-article-1.1243096


That sucks, but so does the fact that Stan "The Man" died. He was like a 24-all-star, a true outstanding baseball man.

http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130119&content_id=41044572&vkey=pr_stl&c_id=stl
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
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