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Offseason:
That is right sports fans, the regular season starts now. Congrats to my Giants for winning to top off the 2012 season.
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Now that it is all over though comes one of the most exciting times in baseball, the off-season. This is a time when the trades, releases, moves, and free agents comes in full force.
Once pre-season rolls around we will update the OP with more updated information. For now, we are going to start covering some of the big off-season moves.
Management Moves:
Astros: No longer an NL club - changed to American League.
Front Office:
White Sox: Buddy Bell promoted to VP/Assistant GM
Managers:
Rockies: Walt Weiss
Marlins: Mike Redmond
Red Sox: John Farrell
Blue Jays: John Gibbons
Coaches:
Dodgers: Mark McGwire as hitting coach from Cardinals.
Cardinals: John Mabry signed as Hitting Coach.
Red Sox: Juan Nieves as Pitching Coach.
Marlins: Tino Martinez as Hitting Coach.
Astros: Eduardo Perez as Bench Coach.
Player Moves:
There are a ton of free agents, offers, declines. We will just post trades and signings here:
Royals: Ervin Santana traded to Royals from Angels for Minor League pitcher Brandon Sisk.
Orioles: Ryan Adams suspended 25 games for banned Amphetamine.
A's: Resign Bartolo Colon, 1-year deal.
Yankees: Eli Whiteside off waivers from the Giants.
Padres: Yasmani Grandal suspended 50 games for testosterone.
Blue Jays: Jeremy Jeffress from Royals for cash, signed Maicer Izturis to 3-year deal.
Red Sox: David Ross signed to Red Sox, 2-year deal.
Tigers: Sign Torii Hunter to 2-yea deal.
Blue Jays: Huge deal with the Marlins. Blue Jays got Josh Johnson, Mark Buehrle, Jose Reyes, Emilio Bonifocio, and John Buck. Marlins got Yunel Escobar, Adeiny Hechavarria, Henderson Alvarez, Justin Nicolino, Jacob Marisnick, Jeff Mathis, and Anthony DeSclafani.
Giants: Jeremy Affeldt signed 3-year deal.
Cubs: Scott Baker signs with Cubs.
As: The As send Tyson Ross and A.J. Kirby-Jones to San Diego for Andy Parrino and Andrew Werner.
Blue Jays The Jays sign free-agent Melky Cabrera to a 2-year deal.
Royals: Jeremy Guthrie signs as free agent with Kansas City, 3-year deal.
Angels: Ryan Madson, 1-year contract.
Braves: BJ Upton - 5 year contract.
Yankees: Andy Petitte, Mariano Rivera, and Kevin Youkalis - 1 year contracts each.
Reds: Jonathan Broxton - 3-years.
Braves: Trade Tommy Hanson to Angels for Jordan Walden
Nationals: Trade Alex Meyer to Twins for Denard Span.
Pirates: Russel Martin signed - 2 years.
Rangers: Joakim Soria - 2 year deal.
Giants: Angel Pagan (4 years) and Marco Scutaro resigned, Andres Torres resigned for 1 year deal.
Red Sox: Shane Victorino, 3-years.
Nationals: Danny Haren - 1 year.
Mets: David Wright - signed largest Mets contract, signed until 2020.
Rangers: Trade Michael Young to Phillies for Josh Lindblom and Lisalverto Bonilla.
Dodgers: Signed Hyun-Jin Ryu - 6 years, signed Zach Greinke - 6 years.
Angels: Josh Hamilton - 5 year deal.
Red Sox: Ryan Dempster, 2-year deal.
Royals: Xavier Nady - minor league deal.
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Post moves here for the offseason and we will do some updates. What free agents/offer declines are most intriguing? Who do you want to see come to your team? What moves must your team do this offseason to be competitive?
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What my Giants need: I think we need to trade Timmy. It has been made rather clear that he does not seem to want to be in SF, so I think we need to get something for him.
I am not sure though if we can wait for Belt at 1st to develop more. He has moments of brilliance and plays a damn good defensive 1st, but he really needs to figure out some of his batting issues.
We also are going to need a good strong plan for 2nd. Overall though, if we can get another good strong hitter, in almost any position, then we will be in good shape. That has been the story for a while now though.
As for other teams, I just can't wait to see what ends up happening to A-Rod in NY. They are many a talks swirling about him going to another team and the Yanks eating his contract. We will have top see though.
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Not exactly sure what I want for the Nats. Laroche and Burnett opted out, and Edwin's deal is done, so those are holes to fill.
Initially I was thinking sign Bourn, move Morse to first, keep Tyler Moore on the bench. But with how great our prospect Brian Goodwin has been this past year and now in the AFL, I could see him coming up this year and being our Center Fielder of the future, with Morse in left and Moore at first to start.
As for fifth starter, I have no idea where to begin. I'm not in love with the idea of Greinke, and I'm very apprehensive of Lohse. I don't think Jackson or Lannan will be back. Kuroda for 1 year could be an OK option, if he takes it.
I have no idea about bullpen arms.
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The Los Angeles Angels have traded right-hander Dan Haren to the Chicago Cubs for closer Carlos Marmol, according to multiple reports.
The move was first reported by the Chicago Sun-Times. A source confirmed to ESPNChicago.com's Bruce Levine that Marmol was traded to the Angels on Friday.
Haren finished 12-13 in 30 starts with a 4.33 ERA last season for the Angels, who had a $15.5 million option on Haren's contract for 2013. The Angels faced a Friday deadline on whether to exercise Haren's option or pay him a $3.5 million buyout if he became a free agent.
Marmol, who had to waive his no-trade clause to accept the deal, was due to make $9.1 million in 2013 in the last year of his three-year, $21 million contract.
Marmol appeared in 61 games for the Cubs in 2012, earning 20 saves and going 3-3 with a 3.42 ERA.
In his seven-year career, all spent in Chicago, Marmol appeared in 452 games, compiling 115 saves, a record of 21-28 and a 3.38 ERA. He was a National League All-Star in 2008. He pitched for the Cubs in the postseason in 2007 and 2008.
Angels general manager Jerry Dipoto was criticized for not acquiring a veteran closer last winter. The Angels began the season with Jordan Walden as their closer, but he struggled and Dipoto traded with the San Diego Padres for Ernesto Frieri, who had an up-and-down season. The Angels' bullpen had a 3.97 ERA, 12th in the American League.
Also Friday, the Angels did not extend a qualifying offer to free agent outfielder Torii Hunter, MLB.com reported, so Los Angeles will not receive a compensatory pick in next year's MLB draft if Hunter signs with another team during the offseason.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8584934/reports-los-angeles-angels-deal-dan-haren-chicago-cubs-carlos-marmol
Edit: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8584934/reports-proposed-dan-haren-carlos-marmol-deal-called-off
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On November 03 2012 10:26 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +The Los Angeles Angels have traded right-hander Dan Haren to the Chicago Cubs for closer Carlos Marmol, according to multiple reports.
The move was first reported by the Chicago Sun-Times. A source confirmed to ESPNChicago.com's Bruce Levine that Marmol was traded to the Angels on Friday.
Haren finished 12-13 in 30 starts with a 4.33 ERA last season for the Angels, who had a $15.5 million option on Haren's contract for 2013. The Angels faced a Friday deadline on whether to exercise Haren's option or pay him a $3.5 million buyout if he became a free agent.
Marmol, who had to waive his no-trade clause to accept the deal, was due to make $9.1 million in 2013 in the last year of his three-year, $21 million contract.
Marmol appeared in 61 games for the Cubs in 2012, earning 20 saves and going 3-3 with a 3.42 ERA.
In his seven-year career, all spent in Chicago, Marmol appeared in 452 games, compiling 115 saves, a record of 21-28 and a 3.38 ERA. He was a National League All-Star in 2008. He pitched for the Cubs in the postseason in 2007 and 2008.
Angels general manager Jerry Dipoto was criticized for not acquiring a veteran closer last winter. The Angels began the season with Jordan Walden as their closer, but he struggled and Dipoto traded with the San Diego Padres for Ernesto Frieri, who had an up-and-down season. The Angels' bullpen had a 3.97 ERA, 12th in the American League.
Also Friday, the Angels did not extend a qualifying offer to free agent outfielder Torii Hunter, MLB.com reported, so Los Angeles will not receive a compensatory pick in next year's MLB draft if Hunter signs with another team during the offseason. http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8584934/reports-los-angeles-angels-deal-dan-haren-chicago-cubs-carlos-marmolEdit: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8584934/reports-proposed-dan-haren-carlos-marmol-deal-called-off~_~
Well this is sure interesting. Marmol is good, but trading Haren? I guess the price difference came into as well. Hmm. I also found that Ryan Adams of the Orioles has been suspended 25 games for testing and having an illegal amphetamine in his system. As it is 25 games, it was not roids, but must have been narcotics.
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Here is a vod about the Astros showing off their new unis and emblem in their big switch from the NL to the AL.
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Also, Bartolo Colon resigned by the A's, 1-year deal.
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Management Moves:
Astros: No longer an NL club - changed to American League.
Front Office:
White Sox: Buddy Bell promoted to VP/Assistant GM
not only are the BLue Jays without a manager , a 3rd base coach and a bench coach...
in reality they do not have a GM either. They have a corporate politician posing as a GM.
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Angels decline Haren's option after the deal fell apart with Marmol. I guess he'll command good money even though he had a mediocre season because there aren't that many options for a front-line starter. Angels trying to free up money so that they can re-sign Grienke, but he's basically the No. 1 option for SP this year.
Nothing's going to happen with A-Rod, that albatross of a contract can't/won't be moved for at least another 2 years. He still has 5 years and 110 million dollars left on the contract extension, and I don't think the Yankees are willing to eat up that much of the contract. The Steinbrenners are aiming to get to the 189 million threshold so that they don't pay the luxury tax with the new roster. Plus, the Yankees don't have anybody ready in the minors to promote, unless you entertain the idea of having Eduardo Nunez play a full season.
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On November 03 2012 07:30 TheAmazombie wrote:
What my Giants need: I think we need to trade Timmy. It has been made rather clear that he does not seem to want to be in SF, so I think we need to get something for him.
I am not sure though if we can wait for Belt at 1st to develop more. He has moments of brilliance and plays a damn good defensive 1st, but he really needs to figure out some of his batting issues.
We also are going to need a good strong plan for 2nd. Overall though, if we can get another good strong hitter, in almost any position, then we will be in good shape. That has been the story for a while now though.
As for other teams, I just can't wait to see what ends up happening to A-Rod in NY. They are many a talks swirling about him going to another team and the Yanks eating his contract. We will have top see though.
Why do you say that about Timmy? Do you have a source? Selling low on him right now doesn't make any sense and we do not have anyone to replace him, unless you want to pay for Grienke.
Belt will be fine as long as he gets consistent playing time.
The highest priority for the Giants right now is the outfield. I want to bring back Melky for cheap.
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On November 04 2012 14:58 monty wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2012 07:30 TheAmazombie wrote:
What my Giants need: I think we need to trade Timmy. It has been made rather clear that he does not seem to want to be in SF, so I think we need to get something for him.
I am not sure though if we can wait for Belt at 1st to develop more. He has moments of brilliance and plays a damn good defensive 1st, but he really needs to figure out some of his batting issues.
We also are going to need a good strong plan for 2nd. Overall though, if we can get another good strong hitter, in almost any position, then we will be in good shape. That has been the story for a while now though.
As for other teams, I just can't wait to see what ends up happening to A-Rod in NY. They are many a talks swirling about him going to another team and the Yanks eating his contract. We will have top see though. Why do you say that about Timmy? Do you have a source? Selling low on him right now doesn't make any sense and we do not have anyone to replace him, unless you want to pay for Grienke. Belt will be fine as long as he gets consistent playing time. The highest priority for the Giants right now is the outfield. I want to bring back Melky for cheap.
So in the past Tim has talked about want to play for his home in Seattle, he turned down a huge offer last year, and has always seemed to not really plan to stay in SF. I seriously doubt, if they don't resign him this offseason, which I don't see happening, that he will resign as a free agent with SF. I think that they might try to get something for him instead of nothing. I know that there are many rumors as well going around that Sabean, even though he says otherwise, is currently shopping Timmy, or at least keeping him as a trade option. Giants have a knack for finding good young pitching or solid older pitching. It is not a perfect system, but they tend to do alright. Hell, a lot of pitchers would have done more for us this season than Timmy. I just feel overall that even when he is not worth as much right now, they should at least think about it if Sabean even has the slightest feeling that Timmy does not have any intention of resigning.
I could see the Yanks eating A-rods contract. I doubt they would just play him off the bench, but you never know. It is all speculation.
The word around the campfire is that Giants great Matt Williams is applying and one of the lead candidates for the manager position in Colorado. I love Matt and would love to see him as a major player in baseball again, but as a Giants fan I despise the Rox and want them to fail at the same time. Damnit! This is the problems of a baseball fan in the modern era. Haha.
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Players signed new deals today:
Oliver Perez re-signs with the Seattle Mariners for 1.5 Million, one-year deal.
Hisashi Iwakuma re-signs with the Seattle Mariners for a 2 year deal
Joel Peralta re-signs with the Tampa Bay Rays for 2 years, 6 Million with an option for a 3rd year.
John Mabry promoted as hitting coach for the St. Louis Cardinals after Mark McGuire left.
On November 05 2012 08:32 TheAmazombie wrote:
I could see the Yanks eating A-rods contract. I doubt they would just play him off the bench, but you never know. It is all speculation.
I still don't see the Yankees being able to move A-Rod to any team. If you're talking about a deal similar to the trade with A.J. Burnett, that deal was much easier to move because the contract was for 2 Years, 31 Million dollars left. The Yankees only chipped in 13 million for the Pirates to take him. The size of that contract really prevents a deal made by either side. The only option I see is to start A-Rod at third base, or sign a third baseman and let him DH. The problem with that idea though is there are not that many third basemen in the market (The only 3B on the market are Youkilis, Chavez, Polanco, Rolen and Inge).
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The dark days of the never ending Arod contract... oi. On the positive side of things, at least I know the Angels and Tigers will probably be much worse off right as Arod's contract is expiring. Whoo schadenfredue.
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On November 06 2012 10:01 zer0das wrote:
The dark days of the never ending Arod contract... oi. On the positive side of things, at least I know the Angels and Tigers will probably be much worse off right as Arod's contract is expiring. Whoo schadenfredue.
I find 80% of my baseball experience is steeped in schadenfreude.
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On November 06 2012 08:35 Phelix wrote:Players signed new deals today: Oliver Perez re-signs with the Seattle Mariners for 1.5 Million, one-year deal. Hisashi Iwakuma re-signs with the Seattle Mariners for a 2 year deal Joel Peralta re-signs with the Tampa Bay Rays for 2 years, 6 Million with an option for a 3rd year. John Mabry promoted as hitting coach for the St. Louis Cardinals after Mark McGuire left. Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 08:32 TheAmazombie wrote:
I could see the Yanks eating A-rods contract. I doubt they would just play him off the bench, but you never know. It is all speculation.
I still don't see the Yankees being able to move A-Rod to any team. If you're talking about a deal similar to the trade with A.J. Burnett, that deal was much easier to move because the contract was for 2 Years, 31 Million dollars left. The Yankees only chipped in 13 million for the Pirates to take him. The size of that contract really prevents a deal made by either side. The only option I see is to start A-Rod at third base, or sign a third baseman and let him DH. The problem with that idea though is there are not that many third basemen in the market (The only 3B on the market are Youkilis, Chavez, Polanco, Rolen and Inge).
Yeah, as for A-Rod, that may be. I really don't know enough of what the Yanks have for other 3rd base options, but as it looks now if they don't go out and get Rolen or Polanco, which I don't think they will, then you will probably just start A-Rod, but I imagine there might be a short leash if that ends up being the case.
Other player moves: the Yanks sign Eli Whiteside off waivers from the Giants. I have to say that I always felt that Whiteside was a really strong backup when he played for us consistently a few years back, but I imagine that something was not working right for him because in the last couple of years they left in the minors and brought up other young backups instead.
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They keep on coming:
Yasmani Grandal suspended 50 games for testosterone...
I am thinking that the suspensions needs to be upped. Also, I think that the suspension should apply to minor league ball as well.
Also, Juan Nieves selected as Red Sox pitching coach. Let's see how he does now that he is out of the White Sox bullpen.
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Jason Bay was so bad with the Mets that they terminated his contract a year early, and are able to spread the 21 million dollars that the Mets owed him.
MLB is thinking about changing the rules on September call-ups. In the current system, rosters expand to 40 on September 1st. What MLB is thinking is that the rosters should have a smaller, consistent limit because of minor league baseball playoffs, as well as balance where a team would have an advantage in the number of players.
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On November 08 2012 11:13 Phelix wrote:
Jason Bay was so bad with the Mets that they terminated his contract a year early, and are able to spread the 21 million dollars that the Mets owed him.
MLB is thinking about changing the rules on September call-ups. In the current system, rosters expand to 40 on September 1st. What MLB is thinking is that the rosters should have a smaller, consistent limit because of minor league baseball playoffs, as well as balance where a team would have an advantage in the number of players.
So I heard about an idea to make it where they are allowed a 40 man roster, but can only pick 25 each night that will be available for each game in an attempt to curtail this long ass games in September with a million pitching changes. I think it might be a good idea.
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On November 08 2012 12:20 TheAmazombie wrote:
So I heard about an idea to make it where they are allowed a 40 man roster, but can only pick 25 each night that will be available for each game in an attempt to curtail this long ass games in September with a million pitching changes. I think it might be a good idea.
That sounds like a good idea, except that teams would abuse it by removing the players that were planned to give a day off, such as the starting pitcher who threw the previous game.
Actually, I'd advocate removing this rule, because why should the last month that teams are able to expand and use their rosters while this isn't allowed in any other month. Also, this would most certainly get rid of the arbitration clock process for players, a rule that makes no sense at all to any fan.
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On November 08 2012 13:00 Phelix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 12:20 TheAmazombie wrote:
So I heard about an idea to make it where they are allowed a 40 man roster, but can only pick 25 each night that will be available for each game in an attempt to curtail this long ass games in September with a million pitching changes. I think it might be a good idea. That sounds like a good idea, except that teams would abuse it by removing the players that were planned to give a day off, such as the starting pitcher who threw the previous game. Actually, I'd advocate removing this rule, because why should the last month that teams are able to expand and use their rosters while this isn't allowed in any other month. Also, this would most certainly get rid of the arbitration clock process for players, a rule that makes no sense at all to any fan.
Well, it does in the sense that it gives some young players a chance, especially for teams that are not in the running, work on getting some guys some at bats, some pitches, some experience. I agree that it can be a bit annoying, but overall I like the rule. I am not against though some changes to it.
Joe Torre talking about his exact issue:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121107&content_id=40201636&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
Also, Walt Weiss is selected to manage the Rockies:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121107&content_id=40200832&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
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More news from today, and I want some opinions from Blue Jays fans:
Maicer Izturis signed to 3-year deal with the Jays. Also, the Jays pick up pitcher Jeremy Jeffress from Royals for cash. Now, I don't know enough about these players or how they would fit into the Jays club to =make any informed opinion. Is this a good thing?
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