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On November 23 2012 02:47 TheAmazombie wrote:Buerhle is not too happy about the trade to the Blue Jays: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121121&content_id=40393828&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlbShow nested quote +MIAMI -- When Mark Buehrle signed a four-year, $58 million contract with the Marlins last December, the veteran left-hander felt he would be with the organization for the long haul.
But on Monday, the Gold Glove Award-winning pitcher was traded to the Blue Jays as part of a 12-player deal.
Per team policy, the Marlins do not include no-trade clauses. But Buehrle claims he was given verbal assurances that he wouldn't be moved.
On Wednesday afternoon, Buehrle and his agent, Jeff Berry, co-head of CAA Baseball, issued a statement regarding the trade.
"In an offseason of change and uncertainty, the overriding factor in Mark's signing with Miami was Ozzie Guillen and the level of comfort his presence provided Mark and his family," Berry said. "While the Marlins were the highest bidder, baseball had already made Mark a wealthy man, so money was far from the most important factor in his decision.
"Throughout the recruiting process, the Marlins made repeated assurances about their long-term commitment to Mark and his family and their long-term commitment to building a winning tradition of Marlins baseball in the new stadium. This was demonstrated by their already completed signings of Ozzie, Heath Bell and Jose Reyes." What I find odd, that I had not heard about, was that Florida does not do no-trade clauses. It is understandable considering the jack-asses that run the place. I was sure in my head that Mark would have signed a no-trade clause. I guess I just figured that no one stays with the team long enough to envoke a no-trade, so I never realized it before. I am sure they told Mark whatever he wanted to hear to get him to sign.
Meh, shouldn't be a problem for the Jays which is all that really matters to me at this point.
Pretty excited for the season. With the current roster, I'd say the the division is a good possibility if the team stays healthy and some players step it up a bit (Romero, Rasmus, Lind).
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On November 23 2012 03:47 Mazer wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 02:47 TheAmazombie wrote:Buerhle is not too happy about the trade to the Blue Jays: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121121&content_id=40393828&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlbMIAMI -- When Mark Buehrle signed a four-year, $58 million contract with the Marlins last December, the veteran left-hander felt he would be with the organization for the long haul.
But on Monday, the Gold Glove Award-winning pitcher was traded to the Blue Jays as part of a 12-player deal.
Per team policy, the Marlins do not include no-trade clauses. But Buehrle claims he was given verbal assurances that he wouldn't be moved.
On Wednesday afternoon, Buehrle and his agent, Jeff Berry, co-head of CAA Baseball, issued a statement regarding the trade.
"In an offseason of change and uncertainty, the overriding factor in Mark's signing with Miami was Ozzie Guillen and the level of comfort his presence provided Mark and his family," Berry said. "While the Marlins were the highest bidder, baseball had already made Mark a wealthy man, so money was far from the most important factor in his decision.
"Throughout the recruiting process, the Marlins made repeated assurances about their long-term commitment to Mark and his family and their long-term commitment to building a winning tradition of Marlins baseball in the new stadium. This was demonstrated by their already completed signings of Ozzie, Heath Bell and Jose Reyes." What I find odd, that I had not heard about, was that Florida does not do no-trade clauses. It is understandable considering the jack-asses that run the place. I was sure in my head that Mark would have signed a no-trade clause. I guess I just figured that no one stays with the team long enough to envoke a no-trade, so I never realized it before. I am sure they told Mark whatever he wanted to hear to get him to sign. Meh, shouldn't be a problem for the Jays which is all that really matters to me at this point. Pretty excited for the season. With the current roster, I'd say the the division is a good possibility if the team stays healthy and some players step it up a bit (Romero, Rasmus, Lind).
Unless Lind goes back on the juice what you saw last year is what you are going to get.
Rasmus had a career year last year so don't expect more from him than what you got last year.
Romero should be better than he was last year. Evidence suggests he was pitching with tendonitis in his knees. Hopefully, that will be taken care of during the off season.
Farell was known as a guy who tinkered a lot with his pitchers' mechanics. You have to wonder if this led to the spate of catastrophic injuries last year. Too bad teh GM ( a la Nolan Ryan ) couldn't step in during this time period and offer a "bird's eye" view to get the Manager to lay off of his constant change to pitcher's mechanics. O ya, he knows fuck all about baseball.
Pretty interesting introduction to how aging and injuries lead to decreased pitching effectiveness.
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=25497689&c_id=mlb
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On November 23 2012 04:21 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 03:47 Mazer wrote:On November 23 2012 02:47 TheAmazombie wrote:Buerhle is not too happy about the trade to the Blue Jays: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121121&content_id=40393828&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlbMIAMI -- When Mark Buehrle signed a four-year, $58 million contract with the Marlins last December, the veteran left-hander felt he would be with the organization for the long haul.
But on Monday, the Gold Glove Award-winning pitcher was traded to the Blue Jays as part of a 12-player deal.
Per team policy, the Marlins do not include no-trade clauses. But Buehrle claims he was given verbal assurances that he wouldn't be moved.
On Wednesday afternoon, Buehrle and his agent, Jeff Berry, co-head of CAA Baseball, issued a statement regarding the trade.
"In an offseason of change and uncertainty, the overriding factor in Mark's signing with Miami was Ozzie Guillen and the level of comfort his presence provided Mark and his family," Berry said. "While the Marlins were the highest bidder, baseball had already made Mark a wealthy man, so money was far from the most important factor in his decision.
"Throughout the recruiting process, the Marlins made repeated assurances about their long-term commitment to Mark and his family and their long-term commitment to building a winning tradition of Marlins baseball in the new stadium. This was demonstrated by their already completed signings of Ozzie, Heath Bell and Jose Reyes." What I find odd, that I had not heard about, was that Florida does not do no-trade clauses. It is understandable considering the jack-asses that run the place. I was sure in my head that Mark would have signed a no-trade clause. I guess I just figured that no one stays with the team long enough to envoke a no-trade, so I never realized it before. I am sure they told Mark whatever he wanted to hear to get him to sign. Meh, shouldn't be a problem for the Jays which is all that really matters to me at this point. Pretty excited for the season. With the current roster, I'd say the the division is a good possibility if the team stays healthy and some players step it up a bit (Romero, Rasmus, Lind). Unless Lind goes back on the juice what you saw last year is what you are going to get. Rasmus had a career year last year so don't expect more from him than what you got last year. Romero should be better than he was last year. Evidence suggests he was pitching with tendonitis in his knees. Hopefully, that will be taken care of during the off season. Farell was known as a guy who tinkered a lot with his pitchers' mechanics. You have to wonder if this led to the spate of catastrophic injuries last year. Too bad teh GM ( a la Nolan Ryan ) couldn't step in during this time period and offer a "bird's eye" view to get the Manager to lay off of his constant change to pitcher's mechanics. O ya, he knows fuck all about baseball. Pretty interesting introduction to how aging and injuries lead to decreased pitching effectiveness. http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=25497689&c_id=mlb
Lind's pretty pricey so I'd imagine he's staying... Maybe he should get back on the juice :/
I don't think Rasmus had that great of a season. He had one phenomenal month and hit a few home runs but his overall averages were down. I'm still expecting more out of him as he reaches his late 20's.
Didn't know about Romero's situation well but that does sound like good news.
And yeah, last years injury situation definitely left me wondering what the deal was with the pitchers. It just doesn't seem like it could have been totally coincidental.
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On November 23 2012 06:19 Mazer wrote:
I don't think Rasmus had that great of a season. He had one phenomenal month and hit a few home runs but his overall averages were down. I'm still expecting more out of him as he reaches his late 20's.
based on what? Blue Jay's PR propaganda?
on average an MLB player's offense peaks at age 27 and then slowly declines.
The steroid era has interfered with this general trend.
Jose Bautista and the guys Cito Gaston has instructed on hitting over the years have been an exception to this rule.
Cito is not with the team on a day to day basis any longer.
So Rasmus best shot at substantial improvement is .. (more) steroids.
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On November 24 2012 00:23 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 06:19 Mazer wrote:
I don't think Rasmus had that great of a season. He had one phenomenal month and hit a few home runs but his overall averages were down. I'm still expecting more out of him as he reaches his late 20's.
based on what? Blue Jay's PR propaganda? on average an MLB player's offense peaks at age 27 and then slowly declines. The steroid era has interfered with this general trend. Jose Bautista and the guys Cito Gaston has instructed on hitting over the years have been an exception to this rule. Cito is not with the team on a day to day basis any longer. So Rasmus best shot at substantial improvement is .. (more) steroids.
So he's turning 27 in 2013... and you think it's unreasonable to think he may hit better when he's at the typical peak batting age? Yeah, I'll admit I'm being optimistic since I'd argue he's trending downwards but I still think it's in the realm of possibility that he will improve (sans steroids).
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Geeze I hope the Twins make some good moves soon
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
marvin miller passed away. shaped professional sports more than any figure since jackie robinson.
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1 year contract, thank Jesus.
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Happy birthday, slyboogie. Have some MLB news:
BJ Upton to Braves, 5 years, $75.25M.
Andy Pettitte re-signs with Yankees, 1 year, $12M.
Jonathan Broxton re-signs with Reds, 3 years, $21M.
Lastly, the 2013 HoF ballot has been released. The 37 players on the ballot:
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Candidate MLB seasons Yrs on BBWAA ballot
Sandy Alomar Jr 1988-2007 1st
Jeff Bagwell 1991-2005 3rd
Craig Biggio 1988-2007 1st
Barry Bonds 1986-2007 1st
Jeff Cirillo 1994-2007 1st
Royce Clayton 1991-2007 1st
Roger Clemens 1984-2007 1st
Jeff Conine 1990, 1992-2007 1st
Steve Finley 1989-2007 1st
Julio Franco 1982-94, 1996-97, 1999, 2001-07 1st
Shawn Green 1993-2007 1st
Roberto Hernandez 1991-2007 1st
Ryan Klesko 1992-2007 1st
Kenny Lofton 1991-2007 1st
Edgar Martinez 1987-2004 4th
Don Mattingly 1982-95 13th
Fred McGriff 1986-2004 4th
Mark McGwire 1986-2001 7th
Jose Mesa 1987, 1990-2007 1st
Jack Morris 1977-94 14th
Dale Murphy 1976-93 15th
Rafael Palmeiro 1986-2005 3rd
Mike Piazza 1992-2007 1st
Tim Raines 1979-2002 6th
Reggie Sanders 1991-2007 1st
Curt Schilling 1988-2007 1st
Aaron Sele 1993-2007 1st
Lee Smith 1980-97 11th
Sammy Sosa 1988-2005, 2007 1st
Mike Stanton 1989-2007 1st
Alan Trammell 1977-96 12th
Larry Walker 1989-2005 3rd
Todd Walker 1996-2007 1st
David Wells 1987-2007 1st
Rondell White 1996-2007 1st
Bernie Williams 1991-2006 2nd
Woody Williams 1993-2007 1st
The inductee(s) will be announced January 9, if there are any.
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I'm curious to see who the mariners will sign this offseason. Its no secret we need some offensive talent. I'm hoping the fact that we've moved the fences in at safeco will help us lure right handed free agent hitters. The addition of a strong hitter at a corner outfield spot seems the best choice, or maybe a solid first baseman- but part of me still hopes Justin Smoak will reach his potential this year, and turn into the slugger everyone is seattle has dreamed he would be.
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On November 29 2012 14:20 Ferrose wrote:Happy birthday, slyboogie. Have some MLB news: BJ Upton to Braves, 5 years, $75.25M.Andy Pettitte re-signs with Yankees, 1 year, $12M.Jonathan Broxton re-signs with Reds, 3 years, $21M.Lastly, the 2013 HoF ballot has been released. The 37 players on the ballot: + Show Spoiler +
Candidate MLB seasons Yrs on BBWAA ballot
Sandy Alomar Jr 1988-2007 1st
Jeff Bagwell 1991-2005 3rd
Craig Biggio 1988-2007 1st
Barry Bonds 1986-2007 1st
Jeff Cirillo 1994-2007 1st
Royce Clayton 1991-2007 1st
Roger Clemens 1984-2007 1st
Jeff Conine 1990, 1992-2007 1st
Steve Finley 1989-2007 1st
Julio Franco 1982-94, 1996-97, 1999, 2001-07 1st
Shawn Green 1993-2007 1st
Roberto Hernandez 1991-2007 1st
Ryan Klesko 1992-2007 1st
Kenny Lofton 1991-2007 1st
Edgar Martinez 1987-2004 4th
Don Mattingly 1982-95 13th
Fred McGriff 1986-2004 4th
Mark McGwire 1986-2001 7th
Jose Mesa 1987, 1990-2007 1st
Jack Morris 1977-94 14th
Dale Murphy 1976-93 15th
Rafael Palmeiro 1986-2005 3rd
Mike Piazza 1992-2007 1st
Tim Raines 1979-2002 6th
Reggie Sanders 1991-2007 1st
Curt Schilling 1988-2007 1st
Aaron Sele 1993-2007 1st
Lee Smith 1980-97 11th
Sammy Sosa 1988-2005, 2007 1st
Mike Stanton 1989-2007 1st
Alan Trammell 1977-96 12th
Larry Walker 1989-2005 3rd
Todd Walker 1996-2007 1st
David Wells 1987-2007 1st
Rondell White 1996-2007 1st
Bernie Williams 1991-2006 2nd
Woody Williams 1993-2007 1st
The inductee(s) will be announced January 9, if there are any.
Tyty ^_^
$15 million for BJ Upton, yeeesh. At least, in the MLB, owners have to pay for talent - even unfulfilled talent.
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Like the deal for the nats. Pitching prospects are kind of a crapshoot, especially since he has issues repeating his delivery. Span for 2-3 years should be a perfect bridge to Goodwin. Now we just need a 5th starter, and whatever ends up happening ou of laroche-morse-moore at first will be good enough to round out the team.
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If there's one thing we've needed in the past couple of years, pitching is definitely one of those things!
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Hanson was such a highly rated prospect with Atlanta, Heyward and Hanson were supposed to sort of lead the future there. I don't mind the trade but Hanson really hasn't been good and he hasn't shown much since his promotion.
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Lots of deals going on in the Winter Meetings, should be interesting after the meetings end and discuss which teams came out on top.
I have mixed feelings on the Hanson for Walden trade. On one hand, the Braves dealt a No. 2 SP, but the upside is now that the game is effectively six innings with the Walden-Venters-Kimbrel combination.
Well, now the Yankees have to address the A-Rod situation with the left hip injury that was not disclosed during the playoffs. As I said before, there are not many options at 3B, Yankees should use Eduardo Nunez at 3B unless Jeter doesn't make it back by Opening Day.
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Sorry I have not been updating the OP recently. I will get to it soon with these. Also, the Giants resigned Scutaro as well.
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da fuq @ that david wright contract
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