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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17008 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-05 22:34:47
December 05 2012 22:29 GMT
#101
Tom Cheek is going to Cooperstown via the Ford C.Frick award.

Tom Cheek was the sound track of Toronto summer.

i wish i were older when i first saw this so that i could fully appreciate it.



The city of Toronto was lucky to have such a great man represent their baseball team for 30 years.
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
December 05 2012 22:33 GMT
#102
On December 06 2012 07:29 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Tom Cheek is going to Cooperstown via the Ford C.Frick award.

I've watched a lot of baseball. I've watched a tonne of post season baseball that happened before I was born via ESPN Classic Canada.

And this is the greatest baseball call i've ever heard...
"touch 'em all Joe... you'll never hit a bigger home run in your life..."

i wish i were older when i saw this so that i could fully appreciate it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGAqLkcgmms

The city of Toronto was lucky to have such a great man represent their baseball team for 30 years.


Congrats to Cheek. At least he makes sense, unlike last year when that tool McCarver got in for some weird reason that no one seems to agree with or be able to explain to me.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 19:55:30
December 06 2012 19:53 GMT
#103
I still have this bookmarked, makes me crack up every time

The Beard FTW

Click play on the video in the middle of the page.

Happy off season!
TriO
Profile Joined July 2011
United States421 Posts
December 06 2012 20:27 GMT
#104
On December 05 2012 10:33 Ferrose wrote:
Rangers sign RP Joakim Soria to a 2 year deal.

Giants re-sign OF Angel Pagan to a 4 year, $40M contract.

Red Sox sign C Shane Victorino to a 3 year, $39M deal.

Nats sign SP Dan Haren to a 1 year, $13M deal.

Am I missing something with Pagan? .288/.338/.440/.778 with 8 home runs and 56 RBI doesn't seem like $10 million a year numbers to me. Not as bad as that Victorino deal though.

And god damn Nats. Dan Haren might be past his prime but he might be the fifth starter in that rotation. So stacked.

Edit: After looking at some other deals done this offseason, seems like Pagan's deal isn't really that abnormal. MLB is weird.


Its called supply and demand. With the lack of good free agents out there you're going to have to overpay for trash.
My dream is to tear up your dream.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 09:42:11
December 09 2012 09:41 GMT
#105
Rangers trade Michael Young to Phillies for RHP Josh Lindblom and minor league RHP Lisalverto Bonilla.

Lisalverto Bonilla is a 22 year old starter-turned reliever currently with the team's AA affiliate and playing for Escogido in the Dominican League.

And we finish with the 22 year old Bonilla, a 6’1″, 170 Dominican right-hander who is an unorthodox prospect. Bonilla may very well have a starter’s arsenal, but the Phillies have been using him in the bullpen to get him to use his fastball more often. Bonilla’s fastball ranges from the low-to-mid 90′s with nice sink, and looks to be a plus pitch. But Bonilla has fallen too much in favor with his excellent changeup that features great arm action to go along with nice sink. With Bonilla working more off his fastball, his changeup only increases in effectiveness. To complete his arsenal, Bonilla shows a slider that flashes plus but has been very inconsistent. It will be interesting to see whether Bonilla will be converted back to a starter or whether he will remain a reliever, where he could have late inning potential. Bonilla has been on his game throughout 2012, going 3-2 with a 1.95 ERA, a 12.4 K/9, a 3.2 BB/9, and a 0.2 HR/9 in 25 relief appearances and 37 IP as he has worked his way up from High-A to Double-A.


Source

Lisalverto Bonilla is a 22 year old Dominican righty who stands an unimpressive 6’1” and weighs in at a slender 164lbs. He really accelerates his arm well, though it comes through late and his mechanics are difficult to repeat. Bonilla’s frame is small enough that evaluators have concern about his ability to hold up under a starter’s workload. The Phillies (who are hard pressed to give up on anyone as a starter until they absolutely have to, which I love) conceded this and moved Bonilla into the bullpen for the 2012 season.


Source

As you can see from the first quote, he was scheduled to play in the Futures' Game, but he suffered a non-baseball injury to the thumb on his throwing hand the day before the game and missed the rest of the season.

Lisalverto Bonilla has a 1-4 record with two saves and a 7.50 ERA in 14 games for Escogido. Bonilla has struck out 16 batters in 12 innings. The 22-year-old righty posted a 1.55 ERA in 31 combined relief appearances with Class A Advanced Clearwater and Double-A Reading during the 2012 regular season, prior to suffering a season-ending injury in July.


Source
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Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
December 09 2012 17:14 GMT
#106
Well, Greinke signs with the Dodgers for a six-year, $147 Million deal (in negotiations right now), pushing the Dodgers payroll over $210 Million this season. Imagine when Kershaw hits the open market, and how much is he going to command with the Dodgers. This is the most expensive team in history, which is not going to be surprising due to their TV deal which nets them $6-7 Billion for the next 25 Years. They're not done yet in Free Agency, since I think they have one more big signing left to round out a rotation.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
December 10 2012 00:11 GMT
#107
Well they got Ryu Hyun-Jin from Korea too.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
December 10 2012 03:34 GMT
#108
I haven't felt this way as a LAD fan since they signed Kevin Brown (and was too young really to understand much).

The owners are shelling out the cash and aren't making/taking in terrible contracts contrary to some opinions--Crawford being the riskiest that could backfire obv--. The players taken in won't be too old at the end of the deals and Beckett pitched well for them after the trade. The guys they gave up are another story though (delaRosa, etc) as they could definitely come back to haunt Colleti and company, though they are also focusing on their farm system now and will be okay to handle hopefully.

As for rotation, they have Kershaw, Greinke, Ryu, Beckett, Billingsley, Capuano, and harang. Last few seasons have been filled with questions about who are the #4 and #5 starters so this is a nice situation to have.

Lindblom, one of the pitches traded for Young, was also a nice piece they gave up last season to get Victorino irc.
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slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 05:06:52
December 10 2012 05:06 GMT
#109
FIRE DAYTON MOORE!!!! Wil freaking Myers?!?! For James Shields and Wade Davis. Christ. The second best prospect in baseball...under cost control for 6 more seasons.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
December 10 2012 05:57 GMT
#110
On December 10 2012 14:06 slyboogie wrote:
FIRE DAYTON MOORE!!!! Wil freaking Myers?!?! For James Shields and Wade Davis. Christ. The second best prospect in baseball...under cost control for 6 more seasons.


As a Rays fan I'm giddy. Wil Myers and Evan Longoria for years and years - and we're probably going to keep David Price long term also. Shields will probably end up like Scott Kazmir. All those innings has to be taking their toll, not to mention the guy is extremely homer prone.

Glad we got rid of Upton. The guy is a pox on the field and in the club house. How many times does Longo have to get in his ear about hustling. With Myers in the outfield even if he is only a prospect, I still feel like it is a huge upgrade for defense alone. Yes, while Upton has a cannon he is consistently a poor defender due to not hustling. A shame too, because if Upton actually put effort in the guy could be a monster.

In any event, Odorizzi is going to be better than Davis ever was as a SP, especially with the best pitching coach in the majors. A starting rotation of Price, Hellickson, Moore, Cobb, Odorizzi/Niemann/Archer...talk about depth (Nats, who?). Hopefully Montgomery can turn it around, and that kid 3B seems like he could be decent down the road, but really...we have probably the best 3B in the league in Longoria so no rush there.

I hope KC does well - they use to be awesome with Bo Knows and George Brett/Sabrehagen.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 06:16:03
December 10 2012 06:13 GMT
#111
LOL wow. my condolences kc fans.


is this real life
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
December 10 2012 06:20 GMT
#112
Exactly! Myers is horrible enough - but between Odorizzi and Montgomery, you KNOW the Rays got at least 1 starting pitcher in the deal. This is a crime.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
December 10 2012 06:25 GMT
#113
On December 10 2012 14:57 Wegandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 14:06 slyboogie wrote:
FIRE DAYTON MOORE!!!! Wil freaking Myers?!?! For James Shields and Wade Davis. Christ. The second best prospect in baseball...under cost control for 6 more seasons.


In any event, Odorizzi is going to be better than Davis ever was as a SP, especially with the best pitching coach in the majors. A starting rotation of Price, Hellickson, Moore, Cobb, Odorizzi/Niemann/Archer...talk about depth (Nats, who?). Hopefully Montgomery can turn it around, and that kid 3B seems like he could be decent down the road, but really...we have probably the best 3B in the league in Longoria so no rush there.


Yeah, this is obviously a fleecing by Friedman. I'd still take the Nats top 5 over anybody (Rays, Dodgers, whoever), but Rays have the edge 6 and 7 I think.
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NbSky
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada1023 Posts
December 10 2012 06:26 GMT
#114
I'd call myself a fan, but no where near a "huge fan/expert" but what do you guys think of the Blue Jay's moves and their chances of winning the east/whole thing?
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 06:31:00
December 10 2012 06:30 GMT
#115
jays need big years from brandon morrow and melky, not as unlikely as you think. they can def compete for a wildcard. i expect rays to win the east.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
December 10 2012 06:34 GMT
#116
On December 10 2012 15:26 NbSky wrote:
I'd call myself a fan, but no where near a "huge fan/expert" but what do you guys think of the Blue Jay's moves and their chances of winning the east/whole thing?


They have a good chance, if pitching comes around and Romero doesn't put up the same season he did last year. I still think the Rays are the favorite, with Boston looking like they are going to come in last. If I were to rank the AL East at this point it would probably look like:

1) Rays
2) Jays
3) Orioles
4) Yanks
5) Sox

The Yankees are going to be atrocious this year - I can't see a team with an average age of almost 40 coming in first place, especially with A-Rod on his last legs (literally). Relying on Rivera, Pettitte, Jeter (who will not have the year he had last year), and a terrible rotation... Thus, opening the path for the Jays.

Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
Hyeon
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Korea (South)462 Posts
December 10 2012 07:28 GMT
#117
yay!
Ryu Hyun Jin now in LAD!
oO
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 11:45:50
December 10 2012 11:38 GMT
#118
I expect the Yankees' age to be a bigger factor in the postseason than the regular season... even with the improvements, I don't see the Jays improving that much. Rays will be scarier in a few years, but in the short term the loss of Wade Davis and James Shields will be felt, even with their starting pitching depth.

So something like:

1. Yankees
2. Rays
3. Blue Jays
4. O's
5. Red Sox

Is what I'm expecting (maybe with the Rays on top). As for the Dodgers- I think they're just piling it on at this point. Sign enough big contracts/make enough big trades, some of them are bound to suck. Personally I think Hanley, Crawford, and A-Gon are going to blow up in their face. And potentially Greinke (his underlying numbers are always great, but they never really materialize into greatness- well, least after his Cy Young season).

Also, I don't think I ever mentioned this, but I found it pretty hilarious all of the articles I read about A-Gon coming to the Dodgers said something to the effect that "he's better than James Looney, it can't be bad!" It's like, of course when you use James Looney as your baseline you can convince yourself anything is good. That's the best that can be said about a guy that looked like a legit 50 homerun threat if he ever got out of Petco? The guy's power has dropped off a cliff, this has danger signs all over it.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
December 10 2012 11:52 GMT
#119
On December 10 2012 14:06 slyboogie wrote:
FIRE DAYTON MOORE!!!! Wil freaking Myers?!?! For James Shields and Wade Davis. Christ. The second best prospect in baseball...under cost control for 6 more seasons.


LOL. As a Tigers fan, I was actually getting pretty scared of the Royals this season, but selling the farm for James Shields and Wade Davis...thanks for the AL Central.
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Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
December 10 2012 20:48 GMT
#120
The Yankees will still be on top of the AL East, as zer0das states, because the age factor mostly affects the postseason, where they don't have any short-bursts of offense in a series.

Oh Red Sox, having a payroll of $125+ Million and going to be in last place, while having all of their contracts end in 3 years. Maybe it's time to start rebuilding instead of these silly stop-gap measures.

The Royals-Rays trade basically secures Dayton Moore's job through 2013. If the Royals get to the postseason with Shields, and big leaps from their young players, he'll prove all the doubters wrong. It is a big gamble, and I don't like the trade from the Royals side, but I don't think this was a one-sided trade at all.

Who knows how Myers will develop in the majors? We've all seen how great minor-league numbers doesn't translate to major-league success. What the Royals have traded is big-risk for a proven track-record geared towards the 2013 season. If this doesn't work out, here comes the fire sale of 2014 and rebuild again.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
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