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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
November 14 2012 17:55 GMT
#41
Anyone know anything about the latest batch of Japanese FAs that want to come to the MLB this year?
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17682 Posts
November 14 2012 18:02 GMT
#42
On November 14 2012 14:32 slyboogie wrote:
This is why civic institutions should absolutely never pay for the construction of "public" sport stadiums. While it's a pretty terrible thing, I hope cities like Sacramento and Oakland are watching.


ironically, Jeff Loria fucked over Montreal because the city refused to build the Expos a free stadium.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 18:06:27
November 14 2012 18:05 GMT
#43
No one should be suprised at the scumbaggery that is Loria and his ownership of teams with the Expos and the Marlins. However, as long as Bud Selig is there to pick and choose owners, and the fact that cities and municipalities are willing to finance new stadiums, while the ownership group only has to pay a small share of the costs, I don't see this type of behavior stopping anytime soon.

On November 15 2012 02:55 Ferrose wrote:
Anyone know anything about the latest batch of Japanese FAs that want to come to the MLB this year?

Well, there's not much that I know about the Japanese players that are not over here yet. There are two players that I know of: Kyuji Fujikawa is a closer from the Hanshin Tigers who pitched in the WBC, and Hiroyuki Nakajima, a shortstop that went through the posting fee system last year, but did not sign with the Yankees.

Of course, there was the big lefty Ryu Hyun-Jin from Korea, where the Dodgers posted $27 million for him.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17682 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 18:21:03
November 14 2012 18:17 GMT
#44
Here are Alan Ashby's insights into the giant Marlins/Jays trade from a Blue Jay perspective.

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/JeffBlairShow/~3/a3c_lFss9vA/jb_20121114_110756--The-Jeff-Blair-Show---November-14---10am.mp3

Before the Blue Jay fans plan the parade route they should listen to this guy.
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slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
November 14 2012 18:21 GMT
#45
Loria is just taking advantage of MLB revenue sharing. He is truly treating ownership as a business, lol.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
November 14 2012 18:29 GMT
#46
On November 15 2012 03:21 slyboogie wrote:
Loria is just taking advantage of MLB revenue sharing. He is truly treating ownership as a business, lol.


Yeah, if he wants to treat it like a cash cow money machine status symbol, he needs to buy a football team and leave MLB.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
November 14 2012 18:43 GMT
#47
I'm of the opinion that sports team are the same as yachts. But I also appreciate intellectual honesty and philosophical consistency. Loria is honest and consistent in his behavior - he's scummy and greedy, but I don't think anyone didn't already know this. Honestly, as bad as I feel for the fans of the Marlins and citizens of Miami, you should never use public money to enrich....rich dudes.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
November 14 2012 19:25 GMT
#48
Tigers are going to sign Torii Hunter for 2 years and 26 million. Hopefully we still have enough money to keep Anibal Sanchez, but the rumor is that he is looking for 6 years and 90 million. That is crazy money for his value.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
November 14 2012 19:30 GMT
#49
On November 15 2012 04:25 feanor1 wrote:
Tigers are going to sign Torii Hunter for 2 years and 26 million. Hopefully we still have enough money to keep Anibal Sanchez, but the rumor is that he is looking for 6 years and 90 million. That is crazy money for his value.


WTF?! 15mil a year for a guy who's claim to fame was a no-hitter when he was a kid? I think Anibal is good, but not 15mil a year good, let alone worth signing to a long-term contract.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
November 14 2012 19:42 GMT
#50
On November 15 2012 04:30 TheAmazombie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 04:25 feanor1 wrote:
Tigers are going to sign Torii Hunter for 2 years and 26 million. Hopefully we still have enough money to keep Anibal Sanchez, but the rumor is that he is looking for 6 years and 90 million. That is crazy money for his value.


WTF?! 15mil a year for a guy who's claim to fame was a no-hitter when he was a kid? I think Anibal is good, but not 15mil a year good, let alone worth signing to a long-term contract.

Then again, SP has no depth this year. The top SP FAs are Grienke, Sanchez, Kuroda, and Haren. When these are your options, and teams are always desperate for pitching, anything can happen. This is crazy, but the market dictates the price. Besides, out of all those starters, Sanchez does have the upside as Grienke, Haren, and Kuroda are already established/old.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 14 2012 19:51 GMT
#51
pitchers are expensive because of how few of them reach the market before they break down or are tied down by extensions.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Ero-Sennin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States756 Posts
November 14 2012 19:57 GMT
#52
Hopefully the Twins can make some good moves this offseason!
Luck makes talent look like genius.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
November 14 2012 20:07 GMT
#53
On November 15 2012 04:42 Phelix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 04:30 TheAmazombie wrote:
On November 15 2012 04:25 feanor1 wrote:
Tigers are going to sign Torii Hunter for 2 years and 26 million. Hopefully we still have enough money to keep Anibal Sanchez, but the rumor is that he is looking for 6 years and 90 million. That is crazy money for his value.


WTF?! 15mil a year for a guy who's claim to fame was a no-hitter when he was a kid? I think Anibal is good, but not 15mil a year good, let alone worth signing to a long-term contract.

Then again, SP has no depth this year. The top SP FAs are Grienke, Sanchez, Kuroda, and Haren. When these are your options, and teams are always desperate for pitching, anything can happen. This is crazy, but the market dictates the price. Besides, out of all those starters, Sanchez does have the upside as Grienke, Haren, and Kuroda are already established/old.


I totally understand this, but at the same time, it sounds like more teams need to spend some time and money establishing a farm system like the Giants have. Their formula is to draft and develop young pitchers (SP and RP), then if they work out they can either keep then for the team for cheap for a good number of years, or trade them for bats. It is not a perfect system, but it confuses me as to why more teams don't work on developing young pitchers as much. For the Giants it is also good because it feeds right into their pitcher-friendly ballpark and brand of west-coast NL ball.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17682 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 20:45:14
November 14 2012 20:44 GMT
#54
the only way a low budget team can take down a big budget team over 162 is with home grown starting pitching.

in a short playoff series any team can beat any other team...

didn't Canada beat the USA in a WBC game?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
November 14 2012 21:20 GMT
#55
On November 15 2012 05:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the only way a low budget team can take down a big budget team over 162 is with home grown starting pitching.

in a short playoff series any team can beat any other team...

didn't Canada beat the USA in a WBC game?


Exactly. This is why I never understood why The Pirates would constantly trade away any decent prospects they had...then wonder why they still can't even get to a +.500 season since Bonds left in '92.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 14 2012 21:50 GMT
#56
On November 15 2012 02:55 Ferrose wrote:
Anyone know anything about the latest batch of Japanese FAs that want to come to the MLB this year?


theyre all 30-somethings in the later stages of their careers. and they will be asking alot considering past jp deals ... dont think they will get picked up unless they take less money
starleague forever
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
November 15 2012 00:08 GMT
#57
David Price and RA Dickey take the Cy Youngs. Well, I don't think many of us had Price to take it in the AL, but that is how the voting system works.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121114&content_id=40286382&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17682 Posts
November 15 2012 00:32 GMT
#58
On November 15 2012 06:20 TheAmazombie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 05:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the only way a low budget team can take down a big budget team over 162 is with home grown starting pitching.
in a short playoff series any team can beat any other team...
didn't Canada beat the USA in a WBC game?

Exactly. This is why I never understood why The Pirates would constantly trade away any decent prospects they had...then wonder why they still can't even get to a +.500 season since Bonds left in '92.


he looked so skinny sliding into home plate in that 1991 playoff game.
it looks like Barry Bonds kid brother is playing for the Pirates in that game
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
November 15 2012 00:33 GMT
#59
On November 15 2012 09:32 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 06:20 TheAmazombie wrote:
On November 15 2012 05:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the only way a low budget team can take down a big budget team over 162 is with home grown starting pitching.
in a short playoff series any team can beat any other team...
didn't Canada beat the USA in a WBC game?

Exactly. This is why I never understood why The Pirates would constantly trade away any decent prospects they had...then wonder why they still can't even get to a +.500 season since Bonds left in '92.


he looked so skinny sliding into home plate in that 1991 playoff game.
it looks like Barry Bonds kid brother is playing for the Pirates in that game


I know. I remember watching that game live and rooting for the Pirates at the time as well. Haha. They lost Bonds and Bonilla that season and have never recovered. Last season, almost...but just a few games shy of that .500 mark.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
November 15 2012 00:41 GMT
#60
Well the blue jays lose all right to complain about spending in the AL east ever again. The Marlins are going fire sale again, I for one am shocked.
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