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MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 05:01:41
August 20 2013 18:28 GMT
#421
As far as american sports goes (or most popular in USA), baseball is the most scrutinized though. Part of that is because of the culture of baseball. MLB players are expected to conform to the culture/traditions of 'America's pastime' and its romanticized history that goes back over 100 years now.

Players in the NBA and specially the NFL, have more leeway in the things they can do. Yasiel Puig, a rookie that oozes raw emotion when he plays, is already considered 'cocky' by MLB standards. He would be tame by NFL/NBA standards. (People like Vick would not have been allowed to play in the MLB again, etc..)

Back on point though, baseball also gets the most flak for steroids because not only is it the sport with the most history behind it, but it also has the most advanced statistics of the major sports (due to the nature of the game partially). It is the only sport where you can objectively compare who was the greatest of their era just by looking at the numbers and seeing how those players did against their competition.

Baseball is also more of a skill-based sport than something like basketball. The guys work on their batting swings for years before even making the majors and it isn't something that can be helped by athleticism, just pure skill (that is why you can make it as a 5'7 player in MLB). Steroids can help you get more power from the same swing though. For this reason, people have a problem with the 'cheaters'. They not only cheat to try to get ahead of the players working naturally (whoever that is), but they also taint the numbers so that it isn't easy to compare their statistical numbers with players from eras before them. The whole process of seeing how good a player is compared to Babe Ruth and others (which is something that baseball people love) is tarnished.

Baseball is also in a way considered "pure" in the sense that it comes from the "pastoral" times, before the "industrial" and current "information" era. It originated as a way to kill time while being out in the fields. The "baseball purists" want to keep alive how the game comes from a time before ours. Steroids only helps tarnish that in the sense of baseball history and era comparison going forward.

Enough babble, just some random (maybe wrong) thoughts I wanted to post. I am sure there is more to it.

edit: I feel the need to say how I never addressed how luck plays a big part in baseball. A guy can only control where the ball goes so much, then the rest is up to luck. Home runs isn't something that fits in this though.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
August 20 2013 23:29 GMT
#422


amazing.
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MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 00:30:38
August 21 2013 00:22 GMT
#423
Well the best part was after that.


A-Rod has always liked to rise to occasions. Which is why it hasn't surprised me if he gets/continues to be hot in the middle of all this.

Plus, he might just be juicing. I mean what a better time to juice for him than right now when no one suspects, right? One step ahead in the metagame. =P

edit: agree with Ferrose below.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 00:58:40
August 21 2013 00:30 GMT
#424
On August 21 2013 08:29 a176 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TxQSYWu61I

amazing.


It's kind of disgusting that the ump didn't eject Dempster, even after throwing at A-Rod four times in a row.

It's also kind of funny how the Boston fans give A-Rod all that shit even though they idolize David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez, two known steroid users. I'm glad that the A-Rod homered and the Yankees won.

Edit: The other thing that I hate, is that it's a bitch move to throw at someone in the AL. The pitcher doesn't have to step into the batter's box himself and risk retaliation.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 00:51:16
August 21 2013 00:51 GMT
#425
The home plate ump got hit by a loose ball four later on anyway, lmao

Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
August 21 2013 00:59 GMT
#426
On August 21 2013 09:30 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 08:29 a176 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TxQSYWu61I

amazing.


It's kind of disgusting that the ump didn't eject Dempster, even after throwing at A-Rod four times in a row.

It's also kind of funny how the Boston fans give A-Rod all that shit even though they idolize David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez, two known steroid users. I'm glad that the A-Rod homered and the Yankees won.

Proven is a bit of a strong word in regards to them using steriods in 2003, as he wasn't on the Mitchel report but instead on a deeply flawed list that had more names that positive tests, questions about the legitimacy of the testing, and legal over the counter supplements may have showed up as a positive tests. A very brief summary of the allegations
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 04:11:59
August 21 2013 04:11 GMT
#427
On August 21 2013 09:30 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 08:29 a176 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TxQSYWu61I

amazing.


It's kind of disgusting that the ump didn't eject Dempster, even after throwing at A-Rod four times in a row.

It's also kind of funny how the Boston fans give A-Rod all that shit even though they idolize David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez, two known steroid users. I'm glad that the A-Rod homered and the Yankees won.

Edit: The other thing that I hate, is that it's a bitch move to throw at someone in the AL. The pitcher doesn't have to step into the batter's box himself and risk retaliation.


i dunno, having your fastball hit right back at your helmet-less head might be a bit more dangerous

starleague forever
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
August 21 2013 04:36 GMT
#428
also, i just spent the last hour looking at ball girl videos on youtube.

time well spent.
starleague forever
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
August 21 2013 04:41 GMT
#429
On August 21 2013 13:36 a176 wrote:
also, i just spent the last hour looking at ball girl videos on youtube.

time well spent.

Did you see that play from the giants red sox game yesterday? A ball girl fought a player for a catchable ball. It was kind of bad
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
August 21 2013 05:03 GMT
#430
On August 21 2013 13:41 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 13:36 a176 wrote:
also, i just spent the last hour looking at ball girl videos on youtube.

time well spent.

Did you see that play from the giants red sox game yesterday? A ball girl fought a player for a catchable ball. It was kind of bad


yea she kind of zoned out there. but atleast thats not as bad as those hooter girls.
starleague forever
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
August 23 2013 11:05 GMT
#431
NSFL for Giants fans:

+ Show Spoiler +
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@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 16:16:20
August 23 2013 16:13 GMT
#432
Lol. Amazombie already checked out I think.

I am still not over how amazing Puig is: http://bostinno.streetwise.co/2013/08/22/top-10-yasiel-puig-highlights-to-get-you-ready-for-dodgers-red-sox-tonight/
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
August 26 2013 15:53 GMT
#433
It is only fitting that the Red Sox were the ones to end the Dodgers' series-won streak =)
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
August 27 2013 18:43 GMT
#434
Everyone should be excited: The Pirates are selling playoff tickets! Simulators predict that the Pirates have a 96% chance of making the playoffs.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
August 27 2013 18:47 GMT
#435
On August 28 2013 03:43 Phelix wrote:
Everyone should be excited: The Pirates are selling playoff tickets! Simulators predict that the Pirates have a 96% chance of making the playoffs.

I'm happy for them, but teams with a better chance have fallen off before T_T
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17009 Posts
August 28 2013 11:57 GMT
#436
On August 28 2013 03:43 Phelix wrote:
Everyone should be excited: The Pirates are selling playoff tickets! Simulators predict that the Pirates have a 96% chance of making the playoffs.


i'm hoping for a Pirates v. Rays world series.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 03:17:25
September 04 2013 03:16 GMT
#437
On August 28 2013 03:47 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 03:43 Phelix wrote:
Everyone should be excited: The Pirates are selling playoff tickets! Simulators predict that the Pirates have a 96% chance of making the playoffs.

I'm happy for them, but teams with a better chance have fallen off before T_T


it'd be pretty hard for either the pirates reds or cardinals to let the diamondbacks come from 7.5 games back to take the last wild card with only 25 games left

still stranger and bigger collapses have happened in baseball before... dont think its going to happen to the pirates this season

also

RAISE THE JOLLY ROGER STREAK IS OVER
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
September 05 2013 02:21 GMT
#438
Wow the redsox are beating up on the tigers atm. I have lost track of how many homers the tigers bullpen has served up.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
September 05 2013 04:27 GMT
#439
#LeylandOut
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
September 06 2013 04:47 GMT
#440
God, Yankees come back to take the lead only for Mo to blow the save and lose a critical game.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
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