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On May 08 2013 19:29 sc4k wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2013 19:01 Maenander wrote:On May 08 2013 18:41 sc4k wrote:
Gona be sad to have SAF not in the game.
Certainly the favourite is Jose Mourinho. Head and shoulders above all other competitors. Comes down to whether his heart is red or blue I guess :/ In my opinion Mourinho would choose ManU hands down No way. First of all he knows the loyalty Blues fans have for him. Second, the Chelsea squad is young and has some incredible young talents that can be built on with a striker added. Third, we probably have more resources with moneybags so he can do more. Fourth, London is a bigger city and just more epic than Manchester (although Manchester is great and has a big rep). Fifth, maybe Jose does have a blue heart, Porto instead of Benfica...and Inter Milan play with blue  ...some people have a blue heart!
1) Hahahahaha, we're talking about Jose Mourinho bro, he may have some love for Chelsea, but he's not a 'heart-choice' type of guy when it comes to career move... else we wouldn't have seen him be RM's manager ('I will always be a culé at heart' lolz)
2) Mourinho cares about young players?
3) Agreed, but I think good players would prefer to join Man U than Chelsea
4) He probably doesn't care that much...
The problem with Chelsea is that they are TOO young. They probably need 1 more year to do something in the CL, and maybe 2 to start playing semi finals again. Knowing Mourinho short-term results style, I'm not sure it's going to work so well if he goes there...
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
With the long term Mourinho thing you also have to understand that he has done what he wants to set out to do. Win the 3 major league titles. England Spain Italy, arguably now you could add that winning the German league would be a worthy honor as well, but i don't think the press will like him over there.
So he will come back to England, where all the press love him, all the managers seem to get on well (i think only Benitez and Mourinho/Ferguson where ever enemies) so it seems alot better place. Top it off with a competitive league and good teams with big bank balances, then he could stay for many years?
Why would he want to leave England again after 3 seasons to go somewhere else? The only time i would see Mourinho leaving now is when he is close to 60 and wants to Manage internationally. Which he has said he wants to do, and i see him being given a Portugual/England job whenever he wants it as well.
So overall he will settle, 5-6 seasons would probably be his preference and then maybe move onto International managing then relax there. Who knows how long he will stay in domestic management for though, but im pretty sure if he comes to England he will need a stupid offer to leave England.
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Laudrup won the league cup in his first year with Swansea, more than Moyes has done in 11 years at Everton.
On May 08 2013 19:47 Pandemona wrote:
Why would he want to leave England again after 3 seasons to go somewhere else? The only time i would see Mourinho leaving now is when he is close to 60 and wants to Manage internationally. Which he has said he wants to do, and i see him being given a Portugual/England job whenever he wants it as well.
I think he said before that once hes won in England, Italy and Spain he wants to settle down in England. This was during his time with Inter. The only thing he would leave for is a job with Portugal.
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On May 08 2013 19:47 Pandemona wrote:
With the long term Mourinho thing you also have to understand that he has done what he wants to set out to do. Win the 3 major league titles. England Spain Italy, arguably now you could add that winning the German league would be a worthy honor as well, but i don't think the press will like him over there.
So he will come back to England, where all the press love him, all the managers seem to get on well (i think only Benitez and Mourinho/Ferguson where ever enemies) so it seems alot better place. Top it off with a competitive league and good teams with big bank balances, then he could stay for many years?
Why would he want to leave England again after 3 seasons to go somewhere else? The only time i would see Mourinho leaving now is when he is close to 60 and wants to Manage internationally. Which he has said he wants to do, and i see him being given a Portugual/England job whenever he wants it as well.
So overall he will settle, 5-6 seasons would probably be his preference and then maybe move onto International managing then relax there. Who knows how long he will stay in domestic management for though, but im pretty sure if he comes to England he will need a stupid offer to leave England.
But he also said he wanted to go back to Inter, to Portugal, coach the Portugal national team. And PSG could be one of these 'stupid offer' you're talking about.. So no, I believe Mourinho isn't the long-term result kind of guy, and he's not gonna change now... Even less in a club where there is a crazy russian dude as the top manager...
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Norway28675 Posts
hardly, as the league cup is irrelevant. moyes has been great.
and I think mourinho could absolutely be a long term manager. porto he left cuz he had to conquer the world. chelsea he left cuz abramovich was a giant idiot. inter he left to go to real. and with real he's been there for 3 years - and there hasn't been a single real madrid who completed 4 consecutive seasons in 40 years.
I think he could've still been at chelsea if he didn't have to go. and I think there are only 3 jobs he could want on a long term basis - chelsea, united, and portugal.
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Everton's revenue is comparable to Fulham, Aston Villa and Sunderland. Swansea winning the league cup is great, but like Drone said irrelevant. Moyes's target has always been champions league football qualification but he has never had the finances to match this ambition and yet Everton have consistently been the best of the rest for years on end, finishing above Liverpool or/and Tottenham on a number of occasions.
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#1 Moyes (SAF has lavished so much praise to him)
#2 Solskjaer
#3 Gary Neville (wildcard)
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On May 08 2013 19:47 Pandemona wrote:
With the long term Mourinho thing you also have to understand that he has done what he wants to set out to do. Win the 3 major league titles. England Spain Italy, arguably now you could add that winning the German league would be a worthy honor as well, but i don't think the press will like him over there.
So he will come back to England, where all the press love him, all the managers seem to get on well (i think only Benitez and Mourinho/Ferguson where ever enemies) so it seems alot better place. Top it off with a competitive league and good teams with big bank balances, then he could stay for many years?
Why would he want to leave England again after 3 seasons to go somewhere else? The only time i would see Mourinho leaving now is when he is close to 60 and wants to Manage internationally. Which he has said he wants to do, and i see him being given a Portugual/England job whenever he wants it as well.
So overall he will settle, 5-6 seasons would probably be his preference and then maybe move onto International managing then relax there. Who knows how long he will stay in domestic management for though, but im pretty sure if he comes to England he will need a stupid offer to leave England.
I wonder why Ferguson didn't go coach Scotland or something, but I don't think he would have more than one world cup cycle in him though  maybe its better like this
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On May 08 2013 19:41 WillyWanker wrote:
1) Hahahahaha, we're talking about Jose Mourinho bro, he may have some love for Chelsea, but he's not a 'heart-choice' type of guy when it comes to career move... else we wouldn't have seen him be RM's manager ('I will always be a culé at heart' lolz)
2) Mourinho cares about young players?
3) Agreed, but I think good players would prefer to join Man U than Chelsea
4) He probably doesn't care that much...
1) Haha what the hell are you talking about. He is one of the most emotional managers in the world. Going from the running on the pitch after beating man U with porto, crying with materazzi, crying after schneider's speech. Getting moody at RM and acting from his emotions rather than his head. He is the OPPOSITE of a head type guy, he is a pure heart guy. He lets his heart overrule his head more often than not. More than almost any other manager. That's why the nostalgia and support of Chelsea would more likely sway him than other managers out there.
2) Yeah, cared about Drog, Lamps, Terry, Cech...helped them develop their games and move forward, could do the same with Mata, Oscar, Hazard, Luiz.
3) Perhaps, but we did get Hazard when Man U tabled an identical offer.
4) Again, perhaps. But London is a significant factor for many people choosing a career here, don't see why that isn't the case for football.
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On May 08 2013 20:24 GTR wrote:
#1 Moyes (SAF has lavished so much praise to him)
#2 Solskjaer
#3 Gary Neville (wildcard)
#4 Paul Scholes
#5 Roy Keane
:D ?
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I hope Rafa Benitez forwards his CV for a laugh
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Manchester won't go for Mou anyway. They will want a coach that offers stability not a coach like Mou who stays 3 years in a club and moves on.
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On May 08 2013 21:06 sc4k wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2013 19:41 WillyWanker wrote:
1) Hahahahaha, we're talking about Jose Mourinho bro, he may have some love for Chelsea, but he's not a 'heart-choice' type of guy when it comes to career move... else we wouldn't have seen him be RM's manager ('I will always be a culé at heart' lolz)
2) Mourinho cares about young players?
3) Agreed, but I think good players would prefer to join Man U than Chelsea
4) He probably doesn't care that much...
1) Haha what the hell are you talking about. He is one of the most emotional managers in the world. Going from the running on the pitch after beating man U with porto, crying with materazzi, crying after schneider's speech. Getting moody at RM and acting from his emotions rather than his head. He is the OPPOSITE of a head type guy, he is a pure heart guy. He lets his heart overrule his head more often than not. More than almost any other manager. That's why the nostalgia and support of Chelsea would more likely sway him than other managers out there. 2) Yeah, cared about Drog, Lamps, Terry, Cech...helped them develop their games and move forward, could do the same with Mata, Oscar, Hazard, Luiz. 3) Perhaps, but we did get Hazard when Man U tabled an identical offer. 4) Again, perhaps. But London is a significant factor for many people choosing a career here, don't see why that isn't the case for football.
Oh, he is really emotional when he's in a team... I don't doubt it. He said on a french radio that he loved Inter because it was like his family, he loved Chelsea because of the players he used to coach, etc etc... I just believe that when it comes to chosing a team to coach, he's going to choose the one that has the most chance of winning. And Chelsea has a lot of talent in their squad, I don't deny it, but they're not as good as MU, yet. And I believe that, even with 1-2 reinforcements, Chelsea will have a lot of issues to regain their status of 'potential winner' of the CL. And in Inter and RM, Mourinho has been building his team with a short-term mind, buying players that have already proven themselves and that can reinforce the team quickly to win a title the next year...
So he will probably end up in Chelsea anyway, but I doubt he's going to be the 'mentor' young players need to progress. Look at RM young players: Di Maria? They want to sell him now. Benzema? 1 season and that's it. Marcelo, Higuain, Ozil? I didn't see them progress at all... You're gonna say Varane, but he couldn't put another player at this time...
I'm not saying he's bad with young player by any mean, but I'm not sure that making youngsters progress is what makes him like his job... He probably feels better with more experienced players that are willing to give everything to win, so the Chelsea and Inter experiences were succesful because he had the group he really wanted.
And with this Chelsea squad, he's going to have to create a gameplan around the team because of the nature of the players he has (offensive wingbacks, Oscar, Mata, Hazard, ...). And we all know he prefers to have a solid team that can compete from the first year on. Can these players play more defensive? I'm not so sure...
Concerning the London factor, it might be a good career choice for standard jobs, but with the money Mou is making, he can probably have his home in London and fly with his private jet to Manchester and back 
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I don't see Mou joining ManU at all. It's a well respected team (specially outside england) and classy
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Damn, I feel really sad now that Fegie is out. I'll miss the old bastard. One of the greatest.
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plot twist: SAF and CR7 reunion at PSG 
Seriously, even though I am not a big fan of his, one can only have mad respect for his career. Moyes would do great at MU, and so would Mou at Chelsea. EPL will be interesting to follow next season!
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It's moyes, it is all done and dusted, on every everton forum you can think of its agreed upon
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Oh I truly did not know all that about Fergie tbh. Still not close to what Mou accomplished in Spain in just 3 years tho xD
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