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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20167 Posts
February 23 2012 17:30 GMT
#1721
On February 23 2012 14:40 thedeadhaji wrote:
Took two sessions off b/c of wrist pain

And then today...

Squat: 335lbs: 5-3-4 (PR)
OHP: 120lbs: 5-3-2
CHinups: 10-5-3

I have major issues at the bottom of my squat, where I can't handle the force from the weight and my spine angle tilts forward as I go past parallel. I'm not sure how to fix this... my legs are strong enough but my middle back basically succumbs to the weight. Do I go down slower? Do I try to focus on staying tall, keeping the chest up, and try to act against gravity? Advice appreciated :O

Try racking the bar higher on your back?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
February 23 2012 17:53 GMT
#1722
On February 23 2012 16:11 Froadac wrote:
Here be thy form checks





They are both fucking bad. Need advice >.>

The biggest thing I noticed on your deadlift is you are sitting too far behind the bar. Make sure you are getting over the center of your foot like others have mentioned and get you shoulders out over the bar. You want your scapulae over the bar, not your shoulders. Your arms are not going to be perpendicular if you set up correctly. Also ride the bar up your legs the entire way.

This vid should help a lot:


I recommend watching the deadlift alignment vids on the sidebar as well.

Don't squat in jeans, they restrict your movement and fuck with form. One thing to note though is you want your wrists inline/over the bar, not under it. You want to be pressing the bar into your back with your hands, not supporting the bar with your hands.
RIP CHARLIEMURPHY 11/25/10 NEVER FORGET | Hurricane#1183 @ B.net
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 23 2012 18:19 GMT
#1723
I'm thinking I need to invest in some foam rollers. I browsed all the stickies and didn't see anything. Any suggestions or advice when purchasing one? I'm totally unfamiliar with them but after seeing others post here and reading about the benefits I think it's time I got one.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
February 23 2012 18:46 GMT
#1724
@mordek: make sure it's durable and sturdy, i.e. doesn't get crushed under your weight. that's the only thing i can think of.
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Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
February 23 2012 18:48 GMT
#1725
On February 24 2012 02:53 Hurricane wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 23 2012 16:11 Froadac wrote:
Here be thy form checks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7GojCRRczg&feature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfu0EB11ta0&feature=youtu.be

They are both fucking bad. Need advice >.>

The biggest thing I noticed on your deadlift is you are sitting too far behind the bar. Make sure you are getting over the center of your foot like others have mentioned and get you shoulders out over the bar. You want your scapulae over the bar, not your shoulders. Your arms are not going to be perpendicular if you set up correctly. Also ride the bar up your legs the entire way.

This vid should help a lot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht363HslwnM

I recommend watching the deadlift alignment vids on the sidebar as well.

Don't squat in jeans, they restrict your movement and fuck with form. One thing to note though is you want your wrists inline/over the bar, not under it. You want to be pressing the bar into your back with your hands, not supporting the bar with your hands.




That advice seems kind of contrary to the beginning of this:



I don't know whether shoulders should be in front as you say or behind as dave tate says, and I don't know what I do. I've been doing them for so long I just kind of pick the bar up and that's it, this is making me wonder whether I'm doing it right. If there is a right way to do it, as opinion seems to differ...
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 19:15:36
February 23 2012 19:10 GMT
#1726
I swear I read/saw in an article by Rippetoe that when doing the deadlift, shoulders are in front because you actually break the weight off the floor when the scapulas are above the bar. This results is your arms being slightly not perpendicular. I'm still looking for where I saw it.

Edit: Boom. From an article linked from the SS wiki: Going Deeper into the Deadlift pt1 and Going Deeper into the Deadlift pt 2
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
February 23 2012 19:24 GMT
#1727
Going through the movement I'm pretty sure my arms are vertical when I do it.
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
February 23 2012 20:05 GMT
#1728
On February 24 2012 03:48 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 02:53 Hurricane wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 23 2012 16:11 Froadac wrote:
Here be thy form checks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7GojCRRczg&feature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfu0EB11ta0&feature=youtu.be

They are both fucking bad. Need advice >.>

The biggest thing I noticed on your deadlift is you are sitting too far behind the bar. Make sure you are getting over the center of your foot like others have mentioned and get you shoulders out over the bar. You want your scapulae over the bar, not your shoulders. Your arms are not going to be perpendicular if you set up correctly. Also ride the bar up your legs the entire way.

This vid should help a lot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht363HslwnM

I recommend watching the deadlift alignment vids on the sidebar as well.

Don't squat in jeans, they restrict your movement and fuck with form. One thing to note though is you want your wrists inline/over the bar, not under it. You want to be pressing the bar into your back with your hands, not supporting the bar with your hands.


That advice seems kind of contrary to the beginning of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr2_mCh2dUI

I don't know whether shoulders should be in front as you say or behind as dave tate says, and I don't know what I do. I've been doing them for so long I just kind of pick the bar up and that's it, this is making me wonder whether I'm doing it right. If there is a right way to do it, as opinion seems to differ...

That's weird o.O

Shoulders in front feels much better for me =\
RIP CHARLIEMURPHY 11/25/10 NEVER FORGET | Hurricane#1183 @ B.net
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 20:09:32
February 23 2012 20:06 GMT
#1729
stuff might depend on your torso length? thats my new catchphrase btw. i just like saying it. torso-related non-felicitation
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
February 23 2012 21:15 GMT
#1730
On February 24 2012 04:24 Deadeight wrote:
Going through the movement I'm pretty sure my arms are vertical when I do it.

Might need to get someone to watch you as you do it, could just be your perception when doing the movement.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4755 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 23:47:13
February 23 2012 22:58 GMT
#1731
First of all, thank all of you guys for your kind words. I actually did not expect that 15 different guys would congratulate me so enthusiasticly.

So, here is a video of my two chin-ups today. I added the second set, because there was considerable leg-swing during the first one, and I did not want to leave any doubt that these are legit. Two different angles is also kind of nice:


Also, for shit and giggles, here is a video of me 7 months ago doing Power Cleans at around 160kg bodyweight, just to give you guys something to compare:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmxvyJ9ruAs


@eshlow: I added the video to my post yesterday, so you can use it for the testimonials (if I understood you right).
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
February 23 2012 23:03 GMT
#1732
hmm i don't think where your shoulders are in relation to the bar really matters all that much as long as you maintain the main aspects of the deadlift, such as keeping the back flat, pushing with your glutes, etc. even though i try to keep my scapula a bit forward, i'm pretty sure my arms and shoulders conform to try to lift the weight off the ground. so i'm guessing if i start with the scapula a bit more behind, the positions of my shoulders and arms will inevitably follow.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
February 23 2012 23:05 GMT
#1733
Wow, you look like a different person compared to your deadlift vid, sick stuff man.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20167 Posts
February 23 2012 23:50 GMT
#1734
On February 24 2012 07:58 Malinor wrote:
First of all, thank all of you guys for your kind words. I actually did not expect that 15 different guys would congratulate me so enthusiasticly.

So, here is a video of my two chin-ups today. I added the second set, because there was considerable leg-swing during the first one, and I did not want to leave any doubt that these are legit. Two different angles is also kind of nice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhGlM9y8IUY&feature=youtu.be

Also, for shit and giggles, here is a video of me 7 months ago doing Power Cleans at around 160kg bodyweight, just to give you guys something to compare:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmxvyJ9ruAs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq7fpEayRzs


@eshlow: I added the video to my post yesterday, so you can use it for the testimonials (if I understood you right).

Baller. I remember when I suddenly realized that I could do 10 chins when the last time I tried I to be able do 0.5. It was mostly because of puberty but it still felt awesome.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
February 24 2012 00:17 GMT
#1735
Starting to look great Malinor!
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 24 2012 00:21 GMT
#1736
Nah, I wanted you to post it up in there....

I don't want to add people's posts there myself.
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BlondeOnBlonde
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada150 Posts
February 24 2012 01:50 GMT
#1737
On February 24 2012 05:05 Hurricane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 03:48 Deadeight wrote:
On February 24 2012 02:53 Hurricane wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 23 2012 16:11 Froadac wrote:
Here be thy form checks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7GojCRRczg&feature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfu0EB11ta0&feature=youtu.be

They are both fucking bad. Need advice >.>

The biggest thing I noticed on your deadlift is you are sitting too far behind the bar. Make sure you are getting over the center of your foot like others have mentioned and get you shoulders out over the bar. You want your scapulae over the bar, not your shoulders. Your arms are not going to be perpendicular if you set up correctly. Also ride the bar up your legs the entire way.

This vid should help a lot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht363HslwnM

I recommend watching the deadlift alignment vids on the sidebar as well.

Don't squat in jeans, they restrict your movement and fuck with form. One thing to note though is you want your wrists inline/over the bar, not under it. You want to be pressing the bar into your back with your hands, not supporting the bar with your hands.


That advice seems kind of contrary to the beginning of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr2_mCh2dUI

I don't know whether shoulders should be in front as you say or behind as dave tate says, and I don't know what I do. I've been doing them for so long I just kind of pick the bar up and that's it, this is making me wonder whether I'm doing it right. If there is a right way to do it, as opinion seems to differ...

That's weird o.O

Shoulders in front feels much better for me =\


Pull like Rippetoe when you start deadlifting. Pull like Dave Tate when you have experience and pull over 405lbs.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 24 2012 02:00 GMT
#1738
Damn flexibility :|

Can't get down enough.

*procedes to stretch*
Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3811 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 04:14:02
February 24 2012 03:04 GMT
#1739
On February 24 2012 11:00 Froadac wrote:
Damn flexibility :|

Can't get down enough.

*procedes to stretch*


I couldn't go parallel when I first started. Flexibility will eventually come to you. Something that I think helped me was trying to get in children's squat position like in this pic:

[image loading]

Obviously without a barbell or anything. My GF could do it but I couldn't, so she used to make fun of me for that. So I kept trying to do it and now I can :D.
For the Swarm!
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 03:12:39
February 24 2012 03:12 GMT
#1740
ive gotten better too, one problem i have now is when i get into that position my feet are not flat on the ground. the outer edges of my feet become raised off the ground (eg the side of the foot that is facing us in the picture above). i think that is hip flexibility, it might still be foot flexibility tho (it would be side-to-side foot flexibility in this case, rather than ankle up-and-down flexibility..)
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