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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 06:12:57
February 23 2012 05:40 GMT
#1701
Took two sessions off b/c of wrist pain

And then today...

Squat: 335lbs: 5-3-4 (PR)
OHP: 120lbs: 5-3-2
CHinups: 10-5-3

I have major issues at the bottom of my squat, where I can't handle the force from the weight and my spine angle tilts forward as I go past parallel. I'm not sure how to fix this... my legs are strong enough but my middle back basically succumbs to the weight. Do I go down slower? Do I try to focus on staying tall, keeping the chest up, and try to act against gravity? Advice appreciated :O
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 07:12:09
February 23 2012 07:11 GMT
#1702
Here be thy form checks





They are both fucking bad. Need advice >.>
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 07:45:11
February 23 2012 07:37 GMT
#1703
On Deadlift: Pull the bar in your shins. Put the bar over the midfoot, not the middle part of the part you can see. (the bar should be closer to your shins when you stand-up). Watch this:


On Squats: Keep your weight slightly more on your heels. You are not hitting full depth. Your wrist position is crooked, it should be straight.

And for the love of god don't workout in jeans. Cool to hear you can lift again though :D
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 08:00:17
February 23 2012 07:59 GMT
#1704
On February 23 2012 16:37 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
On Deadlift: Pull the bar in your shins. Put the bar over the midfoot, not the middle part of the part you can see. (the bar should be closer to your shins when you stand-up). Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syt7A23YnpA

On Squats: Keep your weight slightly more on your heels. You are not hitting full depth. Your wrist position is crooked, it should be straight.

And for the love of god don't workout in jeans. Cool to hear you can lift again though :D

I never do. Just cba to change, and wanted to do a form check. Working out in jeans --> stupid. I learned this long ago!
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
February 23 2012 08:05 GMT
#1705
On February 23 2012 08:11 Malinor wrote:
An hour ago, at approxiamately 124kg bodyweight, I just did the first chin-up of my life (and the 2nd and 3rd for that matter)! I have fucking worked for that since eight months, dropping ~40kg bodyweight and spending endless amounts of time with machine assisted chins, band assisted chins, negatives, jumping chins and lat pulldowns...

And of course I did not expect it to happen today and did not have my camera with me. I was really confused when all of a sudden I could see atop the bar.
I will take my camera with me next time and then post a video. I know for nearly all of you a chin-up is the most normal thing in the world, but for me it is the essential feeling to have control over my body, which I have basically never had in my live.

Such a good day.

Congrats man! you're such a hard worker it's inspirational! Luckily I read this before going to the gym, NECO SMASH!!! (◣ω◢)
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
February 23 2012 09:04 GMT
#1706
On February 23 2012 08:11 Malinor wrote:
Such a good day.

Pretty boss, I can do about 3-4 chins myself and I only weigh 97kg :p
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Luxae
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel232 Posts
February 23 2012 09:35 GMT
#1707
Congrats Malinor, that's a pretty awesome achievement!

Today:
Press - failed again on 65kg so I Push Pressed the 65 for 2 reps and then did another PP set with 62.5kg. Gonna just attempt 62.5 next week and see how it goes.
Deadlift - 1x3 145kg
Close Grip Chinups - 3x3 bw + 15kg. Bodyweight is around 76kg I think, so I'm still pretty far away from my PR which was about 3x3 with 110kg overall weight,
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 11:06:54
February 23 2012 11:06 GMT
#1708
On February 23 2012 16:11 Froadac wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Here be thy form checks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7GojCRRczg&feature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfu0EB11ta0&feature=youtu.be

They are both fucking bad. Need advice >.>


Both loook fine to me, really. For the deadlift, as said above, just focus on having the weight even closer to your shins, it just looks a little bit forward.
You don't hit depth on the squat, but this just seems to be a flexibility issue, with should resolve itself fairly easily as soon as you put more weight on the bar, which will basically force you into the right position. But the movement looks fine, maybe you could sit back just a little bit more, makes it easier to hit depth in my experience.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
February 23 2012 11:06 GMT
#1709
Congratz Malinor!

After working out consistently for 5 months I had my first " I dont feel like working out" week last week, mostly because my mother came back from vacation in vietnam and brought tons of delicious food. My paycheck was was a cold and 38.5°c fever from friday-sunday and after 9 days of not working out I went to the gym again yesterday, did my routing with a bit less weight and 50min treadmill afterwards. Feels like being reborn.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 11:12:41
February 23 2012 11:11 GMT
#1710
It looked to me on the dead lift like on the way down you were pushing the bar forwards to get it over your knees. I did this when I was learning and was told to just bend at the waist more and earlier so that your knees aren't so far out that you will hit them. It also may not happen with more weight on. If you watch just the end of the bar it doesn't seem to traverse a straight line, which I believe it should.

Correct me if I'm wrong though anyone.
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
February 23 2012 12:09 GMT
#1711
I think the deadlift form issues are just because it's a light weight, once it's loaded up it quickly becomes apparent as to why you need to pick it straight up.

Your squat looks like mine, which is to say you have the right idea but don't have the mobility. Personally I've just been doing lunges and bw/pistol squats while I improve my flexibility.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
February 23 2012 12:44 GMT
#1712
On February 23 2012 08:11 Malinor wrote:
An hour ago, at approxiamately 124kg bodyweight, I just did the first chin-up of my life (and the 2nd and 3rd for that matter)! I have fucking worked for that since eight months, dropping ~40kg bodyweight and spending endless amounts of time with machine assisted chins, band assisted chins, negatives, jumping chins and lat pulldowns...

And of course I did not expect it to happen today and did not have my camera with me. I was really confused when all of a sudden I could see atop the bar.
I will take my camera with me next time and then post a video. I know for nearly all of you a chin-up is the most normal thing in the world, but for me it is the essential feeling to have control over my body, which I have basically never had in my live.

Such a good day.


you, sir, are awesome! nowai i could do three chin ups with bw +40kg
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
February 23 2012 12:57 GMT
#1713
what's the point of a form check if you can't even get proper depth wearing jeans?
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rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
February 23 2012 13:21 GMT
#1714
priceless: http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/q1rhz/getting_corrected_at_the_gym_by_strangers/c3u1mtx

i fantasize of that happening to me someday
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
February 23 2012 13:39 GMT
#1715
MALINOR

It shall be noted that calling upon malinor is a call upon strenght, dedication and rage.

Fuck yeah.

First the decaf principle, now the malinor effect...what's next?
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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
February 23 2012 14:01 GMT
#1716
Grats Malinor! :D It's great to see all the hard work pay off.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
February 23 2012 14:46 GMT
#1717


"Is Tequilla Paleo", ahahaha.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
February 23 2012 16:19 GMT
#1718
On February 23 2012 22:21 rEiGN~ wrote:
priceless: http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/q1rhz/getting_corrected_at_the_gym_by_strangers/c3u1mtx

i fantasize of that happening to me someday


similar thing happened to me last semester. this random trainer tells me that my back isn't vertical enough, which he probably got the idea from front squats. but i was doing low bar. to make matters worse, a guy next to me hears this and tell me to try to look at the ceiling which made no sense at all. i simply shrugged and gave them a hearty smile and lied that i'll keep that in mind next time. a couple of weeks pass by and i see the same trainer. he was doing 85lb squats as his working set. damn i should've asked him how a proper squat should look like when i had 225lb on, which was the time he criticized me.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
February 23 2012 16:20 GMT
#1719
Arh coconut water hahaha

Congratulations Malinor. Well deserved.
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 16:37:22
February 23 2012 16:36 GMT
#1720
frodac, i too think, at the top of your DL, you should bend at the waist and then verticly drop the bar , rather than tracing your knees closely back down. but idk if thats correct, i asked a guy doing ~140 last sesh who was tracing his knees so close, i thought it looked scarey but he said he thinks hes doing it right

the squat, you need to go ass to grass, sitting down instead of back (imo. if you were sitting back idk doesnt matter), and like someone said your form will probably be all dodgy until there is weight on the bar so i wouldnt worry about that for now. but the depth you were doing there is no good

watch some vids and compare yourself to them, that will probs help with deadlift at least. you can even browse random weights on youtube like "50kg squat" and see peoples form checks
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