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Kamais Ookin
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada591 Posts
February 17 2012 21:22 GMT
#1481
On February 18 2012 05:38 BlondeOnBlonde wrote:


More of the same. Me pulling some iron on a friday afternoon. 225kg from 4 inch deficit @ 81Kg BW. Nothing heavy, just going through the motion after 7 days without training because of sickness...
Is your 10-pack abs Photoshopped bro?
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BlondeOnBlonde
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada150 Posts
February 17 2012 21:40 GMT
#1482
On February 18 2012 06:22 Kamais Ookin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 05:38 BlondeOnBlonde wrote:
http://youtu.be/BFG-kBPZFOY

More of the same. Me pulling some iron on a friday afternoon. 225kg from 4 inch deficit @ 81Kg BW. Nothing heavy, just going through the motion after 7 days without training because of sickness...
Is your 10-pack abs Photoshopped bro?


Nope. Hard work and genetics I guess.

@decaf,

I didn't try to max today, just went for a weight I knew I would pull for sure.

For me, going heavy = feels like the spine shatters and the CNS explodes. Anything else is light ^_^
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 22:07:57
February 17 2012 21:49 GMT
#1483
well i failed my 5th rep of bench, just managed to get it on the lower peg
i was menna sleep 4-5 hours after work before going but put on broodwar and only slept 1 -_-
my sessions are all fubar atm
im gonna go tomorrow and try my bench again, fuck delaying it for a 2nd time
plus my housemate has banned me from using his stuff when i came home. how the fuck am i supposed to know you cant boil fucking milk in a kettle

(my fucked up last 10 days https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjIvzoW04fGQdFM0YXVXRXNGVmZpMmZpa0JYM2stYWc )


sucks when you keep disappointing yourself over and over again, i fuckin stress and feel shit about it constantly . thats how change is generated tho i guess <:
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MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
February 17 2012 21:49 GMT
#1484
I am currently 40 minutes through my lecture on nutrition. Before the start, I entered fearing the worst (advocating Canadian food guide, reinforcing the lipid theory and more talk about how great walking is as an exercise). The guest speaker just finished her slide on how it is carbohydrates that trigger the storing of fat and that is what's causing people to become obese. Everythingwentbetterthanexpected.jpg.
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Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
February 17 2012 21:54 GMT
#1485
On February 18 2012 00:04 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 20:41 Malinor wrote:
Of course you can pause. Just when doing it excessively long, the weight on your shoulders will take a toll on you, but there is nothing wrong with refocussing 2-3 seconds between each rep. If adding those seconds would make you fail the set, you are using too much weight.



Ok thanks very much. It's really different to what I'm used to.



On a different topic, I use wrist straps with a hook attached for dead lift, got them for free about a year ago. They never even fit an olympic bar that well, I think maybe they're designed for a smaller one, but worked fine for low weight. I've switched from high reps to lower reps, so went up to 140kg today, and the hooks just bent -.-

[image loading]
Don't use these! They just bend straight.


Guess I'll get some proper straps instead.


its better to just use your hands, that way you will improve your grip strenght as well, otherwise you'll have to rely on straps because you will only lift heavier and heavier
emjaytron
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia544 Posts
February 17 2012 22:33 GMT
#1486
On February 18 2012 06:49 MeShiet wrote:
I am currently 40 minutes through my lecture on nutrition. Before the start, I entered fearing the worst (advocating Canadian food guide, reinforcing the lipid theory and more talk about how great walking is as an exercise). The guest speaker just finished her slide on how it is carbohydrates that trigger the storing of fat and that is what's causing people to become obese. Everythingwentbetterthanexpected.jpg.


Unfortunately a lot of our generation are still influenced by growing up with this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_guide_pyramid
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Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
February 17 2012 23:14 GMT
#1487
On February 18 2012 06:49 FFGenerations wrote:
well i failed my 5th rep of bench, just managed to get it on the lower peg
i was menna sleep 4-5 hours after work before going but put on broodwar and only slept 1 -_-
my sessions are all fubar atm
im gonna go tomorrow and try my bench again, fuck delaying it for a 2nd time
plus my housemate has banned me from using his stuff when i came home. how the fuck am i supposed to know you cant boil fucking milk in a kettle

(my fucked up last 10 days https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjIvzoW04fGQdFM0YXVXRXNGVmZpMmZpa0JYM2stYWc )


sucks when you keep disappointing yourself over and over again, i fuckin stress and feel shit about it constantly . thats how change is generated tho i guess <:

Don't be too hard on yourself. I mention this a lot, but reading that weightlifting is a marathon and not a sprint has helped my mindset a lot. In the end, as long as you go for it 100% every session, you will improve and you will consistently lift heavier weights. There's also nothing to be disappointed in: You gave 100%, your body just didn't have enough time to build enough muscle yet, so it's telling you to stick to the same weight for a short time longer. Since you're not in control of how quickly your body grows muscle (given that you do your best to eat well and rest well), you can't really be disappointed in yourself if your body is taking its time.

Also, looking at your numbers, your bench is incredibly high compared to your other lifts. For me, ever since I reached 65kgs with bench I've been taking 3 sessions before increasing the weight every single time. Since you're at 70kgs now, all I can say is get used to failing fairly regularly. That's just how it goes. If you didn't start failing now, you'd hit 100kg bench in two months, which is unreasonable. 100kg bench is damn big, and it takes everyone a long time to get there, so don't be pissed off if you don't have perfectly linear improvement anymore.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
February 17 2012 23:27 GMT
#1488
On February 18 2012 06:54 Pulimuli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 00:04 Deadeight wrote:
On February 17 2012 20:41 Malinor wrote:
Of course you can pause. Just when doing it excessively long, the weight on your shoulders will take a toll on you, but there is nothing wrong with refocussing 2-3 seconds between each rep. If adding those seconds would make you fail the set, you are using too much weight.



Ok thanks very much. It's really different to what I'm used to.



On a different topic, I use wrist straps with a hook attached for dead lift, got them for free about a year ago. They never even fit an olympic bar that well, I think maybe they're designed for a smaller one, but worked fine for low weight. I've switched from high reps to lower reps, so went up to 140kg today, and the hooks just bent -.-

[image loading]
Don't use these! They just bend straight.


Guess I'll get some proper straps instead.


its better to just use your hands, that way you will improve your grip strenght as well, otherwise you'll have to rely on straps because you will only lift heavier and heavier


Or you could do this revolutionary thing and do grip work as a separate thing, while using straps on exercises that require them so you aren't limiting yourself for no good reason. I mean, sure I could only deadlift xxx weight for now, and wait until my grip catches up to my quad, hamstring, glute, lower back, and upper back strength; or I could strap up on deadlifts over (insert arbitrary number here, like 80% of 1rm), then do farmers walks, rice digs, plate holds, etc. another time to make sure grip is not neglected.
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billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
February 17 2012 23:28 GMT
#1489
Gym ethics??

I went to the gym today knowing that my workout partner will be a bit late. Usually all of the squat racks are occupied, but I found one open so I went ahead and "reserved" it for my friend who does squats, bench, and pull ups that day. As for me I planned out to do bench, press, and pull ups, but I figured I could work on my squats w/ low to moderate weights in the meantime (minor hip injury ~1.5 weeks ago, still not 100% healed).

By the time he arrived, he took over the squat rack and I went to bench. I should also note that I only reserved him a rack due to the guilt for him having to spot me bench in between his squat sets. Immediately before I started on my last set, I asked him if he's almost done with the squat rack so I can do pull ups and press on the squat rack (fancy squat rack I know). He said I'm free to use it after his upcoming last set. Little did I know that two people were waiting to use a squat rack sometime between the time I asked and my friend's last set.

This is where the problem kicks in. After about 10 seconds of arguing with myself, I took over the rack. My defense was that I asked him before anyone, and I didn't sit there idling. Maybe I wasn't empathetic enough in my judgement, but I almost always ask people at the squat rack in their resting periods to see how long I have to wait. This was what I thought to be the standard in the gym. But because these two people didn't even bother to ask, so I'm not sure if what's standard anymore.

What would you guys have done?

personal rant: i hate how there are 10 bench press equipment while only 4 squat racks at our university gym. and even more so at my local gym which provides only 1 squat rack which is flimsy as hell and 5 bench press equipment
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
February 17 2012 23:32 GMT
#1490
Bench went really well today, made some progress. Also did some powerclean->front squat and some box jumps, really feeling "explosive".

Dropped a weight on my toe though, it's swollen as fuck and hurts, I wonder if I broke it. I'm sure I'll find out tomorrow.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
February 17 2012 23:38 GMT
#1491
On February 18 2012 08:27 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 06:54 Pulimuli wrote:
On February 18 2012 00:04 Deadeight wrote:
On February 17 2012 20:41 Malinor wrote:
Of course you can pause. Just when doing it excessively long, the weight on your shoulders will take a toll on you, but there is nothing wrong with refocussing 2-3 seconds between each rep. If adding those seconds would make you fail the set, you are using too much weight.



Ok thanks very much. It's really different to what I'm used to.



On a different topic, I use wrist straps with a hook attached for dead lift, got them for free about a year ago. They never even fit an olympic bar that well, I think maybe they're designed for a smaller one, but worked fine for low weight. I've switched from high reps to lower reps, so went up to 140kg today, and the hooks just bent -.-

[image loading]
Don't use these! They just bend straight.


Guess I'll get some proper straps instead.


its better to just use your hands, that way you will improve your grip strenght as well, otherwise you'll have to rely on straps because you will only lift heavier and heavier


Or you could do this revolutionary thing and do grip work as a separate thing, while using straps on exercises that require them so you aren't limiting yourself for no good reason. I mean, sure I could only deadlift xxx weight for now, and wait until my grip catches up to my quad, hamstring, glute, lower back, and upper back strength; or I could strap up on deadlifts over (insert arbitrary number here, like 80% of 1rm), then do farmers walks, rice digs, plate holds, etc. another time to make sure grip is not neglected.



Ok well that sounds very pragmatic and reasonable. I'm going to do as you've said, but work on grip to try and get it to catch up.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
February 17 2012 23:49 GMT
#1492
On February 18 2012 08:28 billy5000 wrote:
Gym ethics??

I went to the gym today knowing that my workout partner will be a bit late. Usually all of the squat racks are occupied, but I found one open so I went ahead and "reserved" it for my friend who does squats, bench, and pull ups that day. As for me I planned out to do bench, press, and pull ups, but I figured I could work on my squats w/ low to moderate weights in the meantime (minor hip injury ~1.5 weeks ago, still not 100% healed).

By the time he arrived, he took over the squat rack and I went to bench. I should also note that I only reserved him a rack due to the guilt for him having to spot me bench in between his squat sets. Immediately before I started on my last set, I asked him if he's almost done with the squat rack so I can do pull ups and press on the squat rack (fancy squat rack I know). He said I'm free to use it after his upcoming last set. Little did I know that two people were waiting to use a squat rack sometime between the time I asked and my friend's last set.

This is where the problem kicks in. After about 10 seconds of arguing with myself, I took over the rack. My defense was that I asked him before anyone, and I didn't sit there idling. Maybe I wasn't empathetic enough in my judgement, but I almost always ask people at the squat rack in their resting periods to see how long I have to wait. This was what I thought to be the standard in the gym. But because these two people didn't even bother to ask, so I'm not sure if what's standard anymore.

What would you guys have done?

personal rant: i hate how there are 10 bench press equipment while only 4 squat racks at our university gym. and even more so at my local gym which provides only 1 squat rack which is flimsy as hell and 5 bench press equipment



Been there a lot. It can be kind of awkward, especially recently as a lot of people had neglected the gym over christmas and then we had end of semester exams at my uni through jan, so this February has been ridiculous busy.

Personally I always try and rotate with people if I can. Today I started dead lift and after my first set a guy on the cage beside me also started dead lift. I asked him if I could rotate in and gave my cage to two guys who were waiting to squat. I've waited like 30 mins for a cage before, now I just go at quiet times.

Main issue I have with my gym is the massive amount of weights machines which no one uses. They have loads of bench press, bicep, tricep, assisted pull-up etc machines but of course everyone just wants to use free weights. At least the bench press stuff is all used quite a lot.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
February 17 2012 23:59 GMT
#1493
On February 18 2012 08:14 Daigomi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 06:49 FFGenerations wrote:
well i failed my 5th rep of bench, just managed to get it on the lower peg
i was menna sleep 4-5 hours after work before going but put on broodwar and only slept 1 -_-
my sessions are all fubar atm
im gonna go tomorrow and try my bench again, fuck delaying it for a 2nd time
plus my housemate has banned me from using his stuff when i came home. how the fuck am i supposed to know you cant boil fucking milk in a kettle

(my fucked up last 10 days https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjIvzoW04fGQdFM0YXVXRXNGVmZpMmZpa0JYM2stYWc )


sucks when you keep disappointing yourself over and over again, i fuckin stress and feel shit about it constantly . thats how change is generated tho i guess <:

Don't be too hard on yourself. I mention this a lot, but reading that weightlifting is a marathon and not a sprint has helped my mindset a lot. In the end, as long as you go for it 100% every session, you will improve and you will consistently lift heavier weights. There's also nothing to be disappointed in: You gave 100%, your body just didn't have enough time to build enough muscle yet, so it's telling you to stick to the same weight for a short time longer. Since you're not in control of how quickly your body grows muscle (given that you do your best to eat well and rest well), you can't really be disappointed in yourself if your body is taking its time.

Also, looking at your numbers, your bench is incredibly high compared to your other lifts. For me, ever since I reached 65kgs with bench I've been taking 3 sessions before increasing the weight every single time. Since you're at 70kgs now, all I can say is get used to failing fairly regularly. That's just how it goes. If you didn't start failing now, you'd hit 100kg bench in two months, which is unreasonable. 100kg bench is damn big, and it takes everyone a long time to get there, so don't be pissed off if you don't have perfectly linear improvement anymore.



thanks for the encouragement hehe. my bench is higher because ive been "trying" to do SS for literally...2-3 maybe years now. and kept going back to alcohol, getting lazy, losing the mindset, disorganised etc each time. bench was the lift i prioritised most of all tho.

my kinda "problem" that i need to solve currently is that going to work and going to the gym takes literally EVERYTHING out of me mentally , and seemingly physically. most people my age have gone through regular studying, regular work, AND regular socialising/something else for a long time, they grew up doing it and are accustomed to it. but me, i always look miserable/serious (people at work say stuff like "dont look so serious!", i get nervous around people a lot, blushing and feeling awkward often around girls for no reason (i work with a ton of girls and only 1 guy, and have NO friends except one woman who is a bit crazy, so i think im seriously lacking a male "role model" to help me develop a bit).

what im gonna do after tonight is stop coming to TLHF/forum again. i done that ok-ish a little while ago. the reasoning is i need to stop stressing about gym. i mean my entire life revolves around going to gym on time, going to work on time (i only work 4-6 hours a day), sleeping (9-10 hours a day always now) and eating (eating well now). but almost ALWAYS i still feel constantly clouded-minded and un-refreshed. like i cant relax ever even though my "free time" is sitting here watching broodwar when im not asleep.

when i started my last job i was managing to smile and shit at people (i only JUST learnt to smile properly at people, at the age of 27.... its not something i can really do without focusing on it . i just interact with a lot of people expression-lessly really and it bugs me that its so hard to make myself smile naturally. the people who "initiate" a smile with me i can respond to quite well, but for me to smile at someone when theyre not already smiling at me? well i need to spend more time practicing in the mirror, i guess you get confidence that way because you know when you're doing it right and not just leering/looking awful.)

anyway today i went to see someone about a new (2nd) job and noticed that my "confidence" (lack of anxiety) was way better than it was before christmas. i keep telling myself its just a matter of time - at the end of this month when my lifts are finally higher than they've ever been ill feel a lot better about myself. but then i wonder why the fuck that should matter - why cant i be satisfied and confident about who i am NOW? will i always be stressing over chasing the next number, the next thing? and stressing over every time i sleep too late? one answer is to continue to minimise the "failures" and continue to build up my "successes". shit like anxiety and not being about to smile at people will fade away over time if i pursue that.

i find shit so motherfucking complicated, you know. i just dont have a solid, stable base, a set of core values. i keep wondering "how" i should act - how do i want to "act" around people, and why is it so hard? i want to smile at people and be fun and joke around and make girls horny, whilst doing my job as well as i do it. but it just takes so much out of me, i keep confusing myself with constant shit like "was i nice enough? did i sound like an asshole? did i really want to say that? why didnt i say what i wanted to say? do i really want to be so confrontational? am i whining a lot? should i take more interest in people? should i do this, that, blah blah..." i rushed past some guy on the street the other day (i was late for something) and he yelled quietly "fuckin twat", then immediately i was angry at him , then i was wondering if i should be mature and cool, if i was right to be angry, if im a confrontational person/how confrontational human beings are, and most of all WHY the fuck am i obsessing over shit like this? its because a) i dont have an answer, stablity, practice. and b) because i dont have better shit to think about?

idk why i find everything such a strain. my manager at work said she doesnt know either - i have a decent job that i do well, i go to the gym, i have a place to live, theres nothing wrong with me so why do i feel like there is! even when i dont want to feel this way! all in the mind isnt it. anyway, time and perserverence , and the occaisional rant to make me feel better and remind me about the things i should be doing (must practice my smile lol)
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Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
February 18 2012 00:05 GMT
#1494
On February 18 2012 08:27 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 06:54 Pulimuli wrote:
On February 18 2012 00:04 Deadeight wrote:
On February 17 2012 20:41 Malinor wrote:
Of course you can pause. Just when doing it excessively long, the weight on your shoulders will take a toll on you, but there is nothing wrong with refocussing 2-3 seconds between each rep. If adding those seconds would make you fail the set, you are using too much weight.



Ok thanks very much. It's really different to what I'm used to.



On a different topic, I use wrist straps with a hook attached for dead lift, got them for free about a year ago. They never even fit an olympic bar that well, I think maybe they're designed for a smaller one, but worked fine for low weight. I've switched from high reps to lower reps, so went up to 140kg today, and the hooks just bent -.-

[image loading]
Don't use these! They just bend straight.


Guess I'll get some proper straps instead.


its better to just use your hands, that way you will improve your grip strenght as well, otherwise you'll have to rely on straps because you will only lift heavier and heavier


Or you could do this revolutionary thing and do grip work as a separate thing, while using straps on exercises that require them so you aren't limiting yourself for no good reason. I mean, sure I could only deadlift xxx weight for now, and wait until my grip catches up to my quad, hamstring, glute, lower back, and upper back strength; or I could strap up on deadlifts over (insert arbitrary number here, like 80% of 1rm), then do farmers walks, rice digs, plate holds, etc. another time to make sure grip is not neglected.


Yes but the easiest thing would have been to never use them from the beginning
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
February 18 2012 00:11 GMT
#1495
On February 18 2012 09:05 Pulimuli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 08:27 red_ wrote:
On February 18 2012 06:54 Pulimuli wrote:
On February 18 2012 00:04 Deadeight wrote:
On February 17 2012 20:41 Malinor wrote:
Of course you can pause. Just when doing it excessively long, the weight on your shoulders will take a toll on you, but there is nothing wrong with refocussing 2-3 seconds between each rep. If adding those seconds would make you fail the set, you are using too much weight.



Ok thanks very much. It's really different to what I'm used to.



On a different topic, I use wrist straps with a hook attached for dead lift, got them for free about a year ago. They never even fit an olympic bar that well, I think maybe they're designed for a smaller one, but worked fine for low weight. I've switched from high reps to lower reps, so went up to 140kg today, and the hooks just bent -.-

[image loading]
Don't use these! They just bend straight.


Guess I'll get some proper straps instead.


its better to just use your hands, that way you will improve your grip strenght as well, otherwise you'll have to rely on straps because you will only lift heavier and heavier


Or you could do this revolutionary thing and do grip work as a separate thing, while using straps on exercises that require them so you aren't limiting yourself for no good reason. I mean, sure I could only deadlift xxx weight for now, and wait until my grip catches up to my quad, hamstring, glute, lower back, and upper back strength; or I could strap up on deadlifts over (insert arbitrary number here, like 80% of 1rm), then do farmers walks, rice digs, plate holds, etc. another time to make sure grip is not neglected.


Yes but the easiest thing would have been to never use them from the beginning


dont rub it in man haha , that hook thing looks pretty cool!
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 00:37:43
February 18 2012 00:32 GMT
#1496
On February 18 2012 09:05 Pulimuli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 08:27 red_ wrote:
On February 18 2012 06:54 Pulimuli wrote:
On February 18 2012 00:04 Deadeight wrote:
On February 17 2012 20:41 Malinor wrote:
Of course you can pause. Just when doing it excessively long, the weight on your shoulders will take a toll on you, but there is nothing wrong with refocussing 2-3 seconds between each rep. If adding those seconds would make you fail the set, you are using too much weight.



Ok thanks very much. It's really different to what I'm used to.



On a different topic, I use wrist straps with a hook attached for dead lift, got them for free about a year ago. They never even fit an olympic bar that well, I think maybe they're designed for a smaller one, but worked fine for low weight. I've switched from high reps to lower reps, so went up to 140kg today, and the hooks just bent -.-

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Don't use these! They just bend straight.


Guess I'll get some proper straps instead.


its better to just use your hands, that way you will improve your grip strenght as well, otherwise you'll have to rely on straps because you will only lift heavier and heavier


Or you could do this revolutionary thing and do grip work as a separate thing, while using straps on exercises that require them so you aren't limiting yourself for no good reason. I mean, sure I could only deadlift xxx weight for now, and wait until my grip catches up to my quad, hamstring, glute, lower back, and upper back strength; or I could strap up on deadlifts over (insert arbitrary number here, like 80% of 1rm), then do farmers walks, rice digs, plate holds, etc. another time to make sure grip is not neglected.


Yes but the easiest thing would have been to never use them from the beginning


The big lifts you'd be using straps on will still far outreach your grip until you're a fairly advanced lifter who is striving for <20lb yearly gains. The only way this won't be true is if you don't use straps, in which case you will perceive a lack of force transfer off the floor from lack of grip, as a general 'not strong enough to lift it.' If everything else save your grip is capable of deadlifting 405 for reps, then there is no reason to not deadlift 405 for reps with straps on while your grip catches up. I hate appealing to authority but if straps in training is ok for Andy Bolton, it's ok for you.

Edit: People also assert it as if using straps means you don't work your grip at all, which is simply untrue. You are still crushing the bar as hard as you can(you should be at least, or you're losing weight on your lifts), you just have a strap to make sure it doesn't slip out of said hands even if your crushing grip is not strong enough.

The best example is probably shrugs tbh, because alternating grip shrugs are awkward, and hook grip is an awful idea for high reps, so your choices are double overhand much less weight, or strap up, crush the shit out of the bar, and shrug what the straps enable you to shrug. After you are done with your final set, you can go grab a pair of 100lb dbs with some chalk and no straps, and hold them until you drop them(or if your gym yells at you for that, hold until you feel your pinky about to slip).
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Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
February 18 2012 00:36 GMT
#1497
On February 18 2012 09:32 red_ wrote:
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On February 18 2012 09:05 Pulimuli wrote:
On February 18 2012 08:27 red_ wrote:
On February 18 2012 06:54 Pulimuli wrote:
On February 18 2012 00:04 Deadeight wrote:
On February 17 2012 20:41 Malinor wrote:
Of course you can pause. Just when doing it excessively long, the weight on your shoulders will take a toll on you, but there is nothing wrong with refocussing 2-3 seconds between each rep. If adding those seconds would make you fail the set, you are using too much weight.



Ok thanks very much. It's really different to what I'm used to.



On a different topic, I use wrist straps with a hook attached for dead lift, got them for free about a year ago. They never even fit an olympic bar that well, I think maybe they're designed for a smaller one, but worked fine for low weight. I've switched from high reps to lower reps, so went up to 140kg today, and the hooks just bent -.-

[image loading]
Don't use these! They just bend straight.


Guess I'll get some proper straps instead.


its better to just use your hands, that way you will improve your grip strenght as well, otherwise you'll have to rely on straps because you will only lift heavier and heavier


Or you could do this revolutionary thing and do grip work as a separate thing, while using straps on exercises that require them so you aren't limiting yourself for no good reason. I mean, sure I could only deadlift xxx weight for now, and wait until my grip catches up to my quad, hamstring, glute, lower back, and upper back strength; or I could strap up on deadlifts over (insert arbitrary number here, like 80% of 1rm), then do farmers walks, rice digs, plate holds, etc. another time to make sure grip is not neglected.


Yes but the easiest thing would have been to never use them from the beginning


The big lifts you'd be using straps on will still far outreach your grip until you're a fairly advanced lifter who is striving for <20lb yearly gains. The only way this won't be true is if you don't use straps, in which case you will perceive a lack of force transfer off the floor from lack of grip, as a general 'not strong enough to lift it.' If everything else save your grip is capable of deadlifting 405 for reps, then there is no reason to not deadlift 405 for reps with straps on while your grip catches up. I hate appealing to authority but if straps in training is ok for Andy Bolton, it's ok for you.


that may be, but a 405 deadlift with straps will never be as impressive (and thus manly!) as a 405 deadlift without straps
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TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
February 18 2012 00:39 GMT
#1498
you are so right brah. i mean this guy



650 lb deadlift but who cares. he got straps
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
February 18 2012 00:41 GMT
#1499
I am the fucking worst. I'm flat broke and don't know when I will be able to make more money but that' just an excuse. Fuck this, I'm not gonna fuck this up.

Got my oly shoes for my birthday on sunday and finally used them today! back squats are weiiiiiiiird but cleans felt so good omfg.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20161 Posts
February 18 2012 00:41 GMT
#1500
fjpaoweijfp oi RAGE

Smashed all my snatches up to 120 without miss. Took me ~4-5 to hit 125, then i had like 4 misses at 130 and then i finally fucking stuck 130 at the bottom. I go to stand up and it moves forward, i walk out to accomodate it, i take another step off the platform (platform is ~2-3 inches off the ground) and start to lose it then my arms break and there it goes. ANGER

So i max out CJ real quick, hit up to 144 without missing (clean feeling super good). 125 + 144 = 269 which is what i would have needed to qualify for the american open so i was pretty happy. Went for 150 and raped the clean and then had the jerk in lockout position but my left arm bent and i lost it competely. I HATE YOU 130 AND 150
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