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mordek
United States12704 Posts
That's basically it though, for a stranger that looks like they have at least been to the gym before I wouldn't bother :\ | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On August 01 2012 19:10 AndyJay wrote: You guys ever tell someone else at the gym you don't know how bad their form is? This one guy today had me cringing on all of his exercises. Can't really imagining saying anything to him though, even though I was lifting twice as much as him. on the flip side have u guys ever asked someone to check your form? lol | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
some crap time doing power cleans struggling with 50kg trying to shrug instead of curl etc. crappy and weak a handful of weak squats will repeat it tomorrow, hopefully feeling and lifting better | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
On August 02 2012 00:08 HeavOnEarth wrote: on the flip side have u guys ever asked someone to check your form? lol I never do. ;p. I know my form is good, and I know when "I fuck it up" and I can totally feel it  .Yesterday I was doing deadlifts, and one of the bro-trainers from my gym, approached me and said "nice form, can I try too?". He struggled with 150kg. he did 4x, I did 5x like a fucking boss ;D. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20022 Posts
On August 02 2012 00:08 HeavOnEarth wrote: on the flip side have u guys ever asked someone to check your form? lol Haha I spend half my time teaching others and don't have anyone remotely capable of critiquing my form at my gym unfortunately | ||
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Catch
United States616 Posts
Botttom line: There are no rules to programming it. Just gotta d oit enough times to figure what works for you. NSFW CnP Squatting | ||
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Donkeys
Mexico308 Posts
deadlift 140kg 5x, 125kg 6x powercleans 75kg 4x3 machine rows (idk what weight it was) 3 sets of 10 squats 120kg 3x5 | ||
Flicky
England2663 Posts
On August 01 2012 19:26 mcmartini wrote: Today I achieved what I thought I couldn't do DL 1x5 100kg.....such a good feeling and it wasn't as hard as I expected, good form (IMO) on the way no rounding of the back etc Also Squats are almost at 100kg as well will be doing 90kg on Monday so give it two weeks and I'll be squatting 100kg no problem :D Only thing stalling hard are my Bench and Press. Press is having a hard time breaking 45kg with good form and i'm meant to do 80kg on bench on Friday and 77.5kg was sooooo hard. Not sure how it's going to go.Loving SS, my mate at 67kg BW is now squatting 77.5kg, benching 65kg and DL 100kg as well. Such good progress for us both :D Can anyone share the differences in weights and progression between Stronglifts & Starting Strength? I'm reading these posts and I'm due to do 100kg deadlift on saturday and my Squat is 80kg for today but the benches don't match at all. My Press is the same as yours (just did 5x5 45kg on monday) but my bench is way lower (50kg for today, no deloads). Is there more of a focus on benching in SS? How come there is such a large disparity? Does it start higher, do you do it more often? I'm just curious now. Also, cool to see someone on almost identical weights as I am. I'll keep an eye out for your posts. | ||
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
On August 02 2012 04:30 Flicky wrote: Can anyone share the differences in weights and progression between Stronglifts & Starting Strength? I'm reading these posts and I'm due to do 100kg deadlift on saturday and my Squat is 80kg for today but the benches don't match at all. My Press is the same as yours (just did 5x5 45kg on monday) but my bench is way lower (50kg for today, no deloads). Is there more of a focus on benching in SS? How come there is such a large disparity? Does it start higher, do you do it more often? I'm just curious now. Also, cool to see someone on almost identical weights as I am. I'll keep an eye out for your posts. There's the obvious some people just excel at certain lifts more than other lifts. I think what you're getting at is different though. The reason you may see a disparity now between the two programs is likely due to SS recommending you go up in weight in sets of 5 on your first day until the bar slows down. That's your starting point. SL just has you start at the bar so the only time your press and bench will differ is once one fails and needs to deload. SS you can and should have varying starting points for the bench and press. | ||
Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On August 02 2012 04:30 Flicky wrote: Can anyone share the differences in weights and progression between Stronglifts & Starting Strength? I'm reading these posts and I'm due to do 100kg deadlift on saturday and my Squat is 80kg for today but the benches don't match at all. My Press is the same as yours (just did 5x5 45kg on monday) but my bench is way lower (50kg for today, no deloads). Is there more of a focus on benching in SS? How come there is such a large disparity? Does it start higher, do you do it more often? I'm just curious now. Also, cool to see someone on almost identical weights as I am. I'll keep an eye out for your posts. To be honest, mcmartini's bench and press are way higher than his squat and deadlift, so don't worry if yours don't compete. I've read that a good relationship between your lifts is: Deadlift: 100% (goal = 2xBW) Squat: 75% (goal = 1.5xBW) Bench: 50% (goal = 1xBW) Press: 37.5% (goal = 0.75BW) So personally, I'm: Deadlift: 170kg (100%) Squat: 140kg (82.5%) Bench: 80kg (47%) Press: 60kg (35.5%) So my squat is high, while my bench and press are a bit low. Obviously it differs a bit from person to person, but I always keep those numbers in mind when looking at someone's numbers. Just to add, there's no real difference in the progression between SS and SL. SS is just 3x5 while SL is 5x5. With both you bench every second session and with both you add 5lb a session to your lifts when you finish them. Chances are your chest is just a bit weaker than your shoulders, which is why your bench is so low relative to your press. To quickly compare your numbers: Deadlift: 100kg (100%) or using squat as base (125% / 133.3%) Squat: 80kg (80%) or using squat as base (100% / 100%) Bench: 50kg (50%) or using squat as base (62.5% / 66.6%) Press: 45kg (45%) or using squat as base (56.5% / 50%) Using deadlift as a base, it seems like your squat and press are high while your bench is low. However, you don't necessarily have to work from deadlift as a base for the calculation. The numbers in the second bracket is if we use squats as a base (compared with what it should be). Then it shows that your deadlift is low and your bench is low while your press is high. Either way, your press is damn high while your bench is pretty low. Over time you'd expect the numbers to normalise a bit. | ||
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Catch
United States616 Posts
Just some Tough Mudder Training. Also, if you are on fitocracy, follow me yo :D | ||
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On August 02 2012 05:14 mordek wrote: I really really need to get on the horse and go for some runs. My endurance is decent but I don't want to be dying come September's Tough Mudder. Maybe it's just me, but I really don't see the fun in paying to do one of those. Probably just because I did enough of that sort of shit in the Army. I mean, I remember when I was young, before I joined up, wanting to prove myself with all of that stuff, but now it's kind of out of my system. GL with it. And if you want some good advice for that sort of event, I suggest trail runs and body weight workouts with a weighted pack. It might cut into your lifting, but it helps a lot to do body weight and cardio type workouts at higher than your body weight if you want to build general endurance. Alternate between them, too. So run a mile with your pack, drop and do a couple sets of close hand or diamond pushups, run a mile, do a set of chinups or pullups. A great trick for mixing core in there, you can take your pack off for the chinups, hook your legs through the straps, and elevate your legs in front of you while doing the chinups. Holy shit that burns. | ||
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
On August 02 2012 05:24 JingleHell wrote: Maybe it's just me, but I really don't see the fun in paying to do one of those. Probably just because I did enough of that sort of shit in the Army. I mean, I remember when I was young, before I joined up, wanting to prove myself with all of that stuff, but now it's kind of out of my system. GL with it. And if you want some good advice for that sort of event, I suggest trail runs and body weight workouts with a weighted pack. It might cut into your lifting, but it helps a lot to do body weight and cardio type workouts at higher than your body weight if you want to build general endurance. Alternate between them, too. So run a mile with your pack, drop and do a couple sets of close hand or diamond pushups, run a mile, do a set of chinups or pullups. A great trick for mixing core in there, you can take your pack off for the chinups, hook your legs through the straps, and elevate your legs in front of you while doing the chinups. Holy shit that burns. I fortunately live right down the street from some very nice trails so that is the plan. It's not so much proving myself (part of it but you've been there done that ) as going wtih a group of ten buddies and feeling like a boss | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On August 02 2012 04:44 Daigomi wrote: To be honest, mcmartini's bench and press are way higher than his squat and deadlift, so don't worry if yours don't compete. I've read that a good relationship between your lifts is: Deadlift: 100% (goal = 2xBW) Squat: 75% (goal = 1.5xBW) Bench: 50% (goal = 1xBW) Press: 37.5% (goal = 0.75BW) So personally, I'm: Deadlift: 170kg (100%) Squat: 140kg (82.5%) Bench: 80kg (47%) Press: 60kg (35.5%) So my squat is high, while my bench and press are a bit low. Obviously it differs a bit from person to person, but I always keep those numbers in mind when looking at someone's numbers. Just to add, there's no real difference in the progression between SS and SL. SS is just 3x5 while SL is 5x5. With both you bench every second session and with both you add 5lb a session to your lifts when you finish them. Chances are your chest is just a bit weaker than your shoulders, which is why your bench is so low relative to your press. To quickly compare your numbers: Deadlift: 100kg (100%) or using squat as base (125% / 133.3%) Squat: 80kg (80%) or using squat as base (100% / 100%) Bench: 50kg (50%) or using squat as base (62.5% / 66.6%) Press: 45kg (45%) or using squat as base (56.5% / 50%) Using deadlift as a base, it seems like your squat and press are high while your bench is low. However, you don't necessarily have to work from deadlift as a base for the calculation. The numbers in the second bracket is if we use squats as a base (compared with what it should be). Then it shows that your deadlift is low and your bench is low while your press is high. Either way, your press is damn high while your bench is pretty low. Over time you'd expect the numbers to normalise a bit. So what you're saying is that I should be DLing 500lb right now? | ||
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
On August 02 2012 05:28 infinity21 wrote: So what you're saying is that I should be DLing 500lb right now? Or there is an imbalance  But yeah, back injuries suck | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On August 02 2012 05:27 mordek wrote: I fortunately live right down the street from some very nice trails so that is the plan. It's not so much proving myself (part of it but you've been there done that ) as going wtih a group of ten buddies and feeling like a boss Eh, well, yeah, I guess if you know your team pretty well that could be in there too. But yeah, for me, meh. Maybe if it was free, I'd do one, just to laugh at my crohn's, but I wouldn't pay. | ||
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
It's been a while since I last wrote here lol. Anyway I checked my PRs in the leaderboard thread and saw my DL was 145 kg at that time. It's now 167.5 and 145 is my squat I also weigh less than I did before! I've been checking this thread from time to time and man, some of you is really strong now! Will start posting here again to keep myself motivated ^^ | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On August 02 2012 05:30 mordek wrote: Or there is an imbalance But yeah, back injuries suck haha with my recent shoulder injury, my bench is the only lift I've been able to do without significant injury so far. So it would be odd if I didn't have an imbalance. Doing a lot of core work and mobility exercises to get back into it though! Thankfully I can still DL more than I can bench even with a back injury  | ||
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On August 02 2012 05:36 Necosarius wrote: Hey guys, remember me? It's been a while since I last wrote here lol. Anyway I checked my PRs in the leaderboard thread and saw my DL was 145 kg at that time. It's now 167.5 and 145 is my squat I also weigh less than I did before! I've been checking this thread from time to time and man, some of you is really strong now! Will start posting here again to keep myself motivated ^^That's nice progress! Welcome back | ||
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