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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
July 31 2012 01:46 GMT
#5781
On July 31 2012 10:30 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 08:41 GoTuNk! wrote:
Partial Squat 180kgx6x6, 230kg 15 sec hold x3
Push Press: 80kgx1x15
Pull Ups: 5x5

On my way to the olympics lol, I really wanna learn to clean & jerk for the kicks, at least beat the lightest woman within a year (and beat the lightest man in powerlifting for my next meet aswell). Its still a fucking bitch to transition grip between the two.
Really dont wanna bech as my right shoulder keeps aching.

Also North korea rolling, capitalist dogs hatin (srsly, wtf, I guess its just a matter of super intestinal fortitude)

Edit: At dimsum or someone who knows about oly lifting, why are they missing so many openers? It seems to me many athletes are opening too heavy instead of going for a sure opener, and lifting calmly for 2nd/3rd attempt.



Nerves/opening too heavy.

From what I have seen so far, it is mostly nerves. Very uncharacteristic performances from a lot of lifters, but some others performed very well under the pressure of the Olympics. Once I watch all the sessions I'll have more to say. I'm just rooting for the Chinese to step it up. My favorite lifter(Zhang Jie) didn't even medal.


On my own lifting, i'm making some good progress. Yesterday I snatched 95kg off blocks and just missed 100kg. Then I cleaned 120 of blocks. today I front squatted 115x5 for a pr then tried 120 and only got 3.

Also can only do squat nemesis once a week since I concentrate on different movements on diff days. Hopefully it will work out lol.


I do front Squat 120kg x 5 .

Clean and Jerked 90kg for the first time today, it felt sick, people in the gym were like "Holy.."

Back Squat:
80kg, 100kg, 110kg, 120kg, 130kg, 140kg, 150kg, 160kg
125kg, 130kg, 135kg, 140kg, 145kg x 3
100kg x 2 x 5

Clean and Jerk: 40kg x 2, 50kg x 2, 60kg x 4, 70kg x 2, 80kg x 4, 90kg x 1 (PR).


CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
July 31 2012 02:04 GMT
#5782
Lost to #1 seed in ultimate tournament tonight. Bounced back from 8-2 deficit to lose 15-10 so at least some dignity there. Get third place next week npnp.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
July 31 2012 07:21 GMT
#5783
Next day, chest still hurts, but localized to right peck. I dun ripped something
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
July 31 2012 11:26 GMT
#5784
Pictures:
http://imgur.com/sdCPn http://imgur.com/mS9W6
Hi, I've been having trouble deciding if I should cut further or begin bulking up. I have lost around 25 pounds to get where I am today and frankly I'm a bit paranoid about bulking and gaining weight (and muscle ofcourse) but I do want that lean toned body, with strength gains ofcourse. Here are my stats:
71 kg (156 lbs)
182 cm (6')
17 years old
I am planning to do Starting Strength for my bulk, three times a week, eating 3000-4000 cals a day. So, should I cut a bit more and then bulk, or start bulking up now? And how many calories should I consume? The ultimate goal for me is a ripped body and I hope I can accomplish that in a year or so. The plan is now to maybe bulk for 6 months depending on progress (n00bgains haha) and then a cut of 6 months.
Thanks in advance guys!
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
Jupiter
Profile Joined November 2009
Australia73 Posts
July 31 2012 12:16 GMT
#5785
On July 31 2012 20:26 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Pictures:
http://imgur.com/sdCPn http://imgur.com/mS9W6
Hi, I've been having trouble deciding if I should cut further or begin bulking up. I have lost around 25 pounds to get where I am today and frankly I'm a bit paranoid about bulking and gaining weight (and muscle ofcourse) but I do want that lean toned body, with strength gains ofcourse. Here are my stats:
71 kg (156 lbs)
182 cm (6')
17 years old
I am planning to do Starting Strength for my bulk, three times a week, eating 3000-4000 cals a day. So, should I cut a bit more and then bulk, or start bulking up now? And how many calories should I consume? The ultimate goal for me is a ripped body and I hope I can accomplish that in a year or so. The plan is now to maybe bulk for 6 months depending on progress (n00bgains haha) and then a cut of 6 months.
Thanks in advance guys!


Without a doubt bulk.

Imo you could afford to bulk for a lot longer than 6 months.

dont be paranoid about putting weight on! lift heavy and put that muscle on!

good luck
mum says I cant play games against Zerg
mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
July 31 2012 13:11 GMT
#5786
Tomorrow i go for my first attempt at 100kg DL feeling good 95 last week felt easy. Keen as also attempting 47.5kg press again.
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
Luxae
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 18:34:46
July 31 2012 18:34 GMT
#5787
Bodyweight from this morning: 67.5kg
Workout:
squat 1x3 75, 95, 2x3 115kg - that shit actually felt hard. Took me a lot longer to get warmed up as well, my left quad kept hurting on my way down.
Press 1x3 40, 50, 57.5kg
Push press 1x3 65kg
Deadlift 1x3 70, 100, 120, 1x1 140, 160kg PR

Clen is definitely kicking my ass quite a bit, but atleast it's doing the job. I'm actually getting pretty lean. Adonis belt is starting to really show, and my forearms are getting kinda vein-y. Pretty cool
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 18:58:33
July 31 2012 18:41 GMT
#5788
On July 31 2012 20:26 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Pictures:
http://imgur.com/sdCPn http://imgur.com/mS9W6
Hi, I've been having trouble deciding if I should cut further or begin bulking up. I have lost around 25 pounds to get where I am today and frankly I'm a bit paranoid about bulking and gaining weight (and muscle ofcourse) but I do want that lean toned body, with strength gains ofcourse. Here are my stats:
71 kg (156 lbs)
182 cm (6')
17 years old
I am planning to do Starting Strength for my bulk, three times a week, eating 3000-4000 cals a day. So, should I cut a bit more and then bulk, or start bulking up now? And how many calories should I consume? The ultimate goal for me is a ripped body and I hope I can accomplish that in a year or so. The plan is now to maybe bulk for 6 months depending on progress (n00bgains haha) and then a cut of 6 months.
Thanks in advance guys!


Buuuuulk, you are one skinny bastard. Just at least try to eat clean and get your protein in. Remember to hit the gym hard! GLHF and get dem gainz. Really like to see noobgains.

As for my own progress:

Mid March: 236lbs (107kg)
Now: 213lbs (96.6kg)

My original plan was to hit 200lbs by September but in May I went on a 3 week vacation overseas, I think the best I could do now is 205lbs by then. Oh well, my long term goal is to hit 175lbs by Mid March 2013 (to have lost a total of 60lbs in one year). From then I would do a clean bulk through next summer, and then do a normal bulk in the winter 2013 (stay at that lower bf% for the summer, not that I go out of the house except to hit the gym and school lol).

Age: 22
Height: 5'6 (167.5cm, as part of manlet-status I have to add the .5 here hehehehe)
LBM: 151lbs (68.5kg) (I've lost about 2 pounds of muscle so far, I didn't lift at all during the first 2 months of my diet, but lifting regularly and good daily protein intake has preserved my LBM since June while losing about 1-2lbs a week. Mostly though I lift because its fun)

Lifting 4 times a week, doing a 5/3/1 with assistance work. Taking Oly lifting classes at the university to properly learn them next month.

My strength is improving and getting close to my old lifts:

Current 5x3 (5reps 3sets) lifts:
Bench: 195lbs (88kg)
Squat: 295lbs (134kg)
Deadlift: 275lbs (125kg)

Goal 5x3 lifts (lifts I used to do 2 years ago before getting fat) (by Janruary 2013):
Bench: 225lbs (102kg)
Squat: 315lbs (143kg)
Deadlift: 315lbs (143kg)

I hope to hit 185lbs by Janruary, slow my diet down and hit 175lbs by my next birthday (March 27 2013). I would be at 14% bodyfat then. On a 700-1000 daily caloric deficit.

I've recently added Front Squats (to help with Oly lifting) and lunges (because I felt like it) and I found out my glutes are really weak in relation to my quads. My glutes are totally dead right now.

In progress: Overhead/Push Press, Clean & Jerk, Snatch (Will report on these after August).

Edit: Adding kg-equivalents
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
July 31 2012 18:43 GMT
#5789
On July 31 2012 20:26 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Pictures:
http://imgur.com/sdCPn http://imgur.com/mS9W6
Hi, I've been having trouble deciding if I should cut further or begin bulking up. I have lost around 25 pounds to get where I am today and frankly I'm a bit paranoid about bulking and gaining weight (and muscle ofcourse) but I do want that lean toned body, with strength gains ofcourse. Here are my stats:
71 kg (156 lbs)
182 cm (6')
17 years old
I am planning to do Starting Strength for my bulk, three times a week, eating 3000-4000 cals a day. So, should I cut a bit more and then bulk, or start bulking up now? And how many calories should I consume? The ultimate goal for me is a ripped body and I hope I can accomplish that in a year or so. The plan is now to maybe bulk for 6 months depending on progress (n00bgains haha) and then a cut of 6 months.
Thanks in advance guys!

Why not just lift hard and eat clean with a high protein diet? stop when your full and eat healthy when you're hungry....
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
July 31 2012 19:35 GMT
#5790
On July 31 2012 20:26 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Pictures:
http://imgur.com/sdCPn http://imgur.com/mS9W6
Hi, I've been having trouble deciding if I should cut further or begin bulking up. I have lost around 25 pounds to get where I am today and frankly I'm a bit paranoid about bulking and gaining weight (and muscle ofcourse) but I do want that lean toned body, with strength gains ofcourse. Here are my stats:
71 kg (156 lbs)
182 cm (6')
17 years old
I am planning to do Starting Strength for my bulk, three times a week, eating 3000-4000 cals a day. So, should I cut a bit more and then bulk, or start bulking up now? And how many calories should I consume? The ultimate goal for me is a ripped body and I hope I can accomplish that in a year or so. The plan is now to maybe bulk for 6 months depending on progress (n00bgains haha) and then a cut of 6 months.
Thanks in advance guys!


Definitely a bulk. I don't know what your maintenance calories are, but find those out.

Then I would recommend eating a large surplus on training days (+40% or so from maintenance) with a small deficit (around -10% from maintenance) on rest days.

Doing SS myself, I was getting in 3000-4000+ calories a day, with most of that coming from a gallon of milk a day. I got strong as hell, but I also got fat. if you aren't training that day, then there is no reason to take in so many calories in my opinion. if you find yourself stalling, then up the rest day calories. Simple as that.

Just my recommendation.
Victory Loves Preparation
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
July 31 2012 19:49 GMT
#5791
today:

ohp 45kg 7-7-7-5

nothing else. off work tomorrow at last , sigh
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 31 2012 20:00 GMT
#5792
Woot, doc gave the ok to start lifting.

Pretty sure I'm remembering right that my apartment complex's fitness center thingy has a squat rack, so should not even have to pay for a gym membership.

Now to find out if my body is willing to gain mass while lifting.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
July 31 2012 20:02 GMT
#5793
On August 01 2012 05:00 JingleHell wrote:
Woot, doc gave the ok to start lifting.

Pretty sure I'm remembering right that my apartment complex's fitness center thingy has a squat rack, so should not even have to pay for a gym membership.

Now to find out if my body is willing to gain mass while lifting.

Make it happen! Hope it goes smoothly for you. Not having to pay for a gym membership is awesome too.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 31 2012 20:07 GMT
#5794
On August 01 2012 05:02 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 05:00 JingleHell wrote:
Woot, doc gave the ok to start lifting.

Pretty sure I'm remembering right that my apartment complex's fitness center thingy has a squat rack, so should not even have to pay for a gym membership.

Now to find out if my body is willing to gain mass while lifting.

Make it happen! Hope it goes smoothly for you. Not having to pay for a gym membership is awesome too.


Yeah, going to head over there tonight before TKD and check the room. I figure better to hit it up before TKD, since workouts there are variable.

On that note, will it hurt at all to do TKD on off days of SS? Or at least, will it hurt progress significantly?
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 20:21:00
July 31 2012 20:18 GMT
#5795
On August 01 2012 04:35 Catch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 20:26 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Pictures:
http://imgur.com/sdCPn http://imgur.com/mS9W6
Hi, I've been having trouble deciding if I should cut further or begin bulking up. I have lost around 25 pounds to get where I am today and frankly I'm a bit paranoid about bulking and gaining weight (and muscle ofcourse) but I do want that lean toned body, with strength gains ofcourse. Here are my stats:
71 kg (156 lbs)
182 cm (6')
17 years old
I am planning to do Starting Strength for my bulk, three times a week, eating 3000-4000 cals a day. So, should I cut a bit more and then bulk, or start bulking up now? And how many calories should I consume? The ultimate goal for me is a ripped body and I hope I can accomplish that in a year or so. The plan is now to maybe bulk for 6 months depending on progress (n00bgains haha) and then a cut of 6 months.
Thanks in advance guys!


Definitely a bulk. I don't know what your maintenance calories are, but find those out.

Then I would recommend eating a large surplus on training days (+40% or so from maintenance) with a small deficit (around -10% from maintenance) on rest days.

Doing SS myself, I was getting in 3000-4000+ calories a day, with most of that coming from a gallon of milk a day. I got strong as hell, but I also got fat. if you aren't training that day, then there is no reason to take in so many calories in my opinion. if you find yourself stalling, then up the rest day calories. Simple as that.

Just my recommendation.


My recommendation would just to first find out maintenance calories. And Start with at least +500-1000 (with good protein intake ofc) from that when starting lifting.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 31 2012 20:22 GMT
#5796
what else do u guys use to mix with protein powder? even a small glass of milk is x.x''
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
July 31 2012 20:29 GMT
#5797
On August 01 2012 05:22 HeavOnEarth wrote:
what else do u guys use to mix with protein powder? even a small glass of milk is x.x''


Water O_o. I use ON Gold Standard Whey cuz it tastes great (to me at least). Everyone has different tastes though.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
July 31 2012 20:41 GMT
#5798
On August 01 2012 05:07 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 05:02 mordek wrote:
On August 01 2012 05:00 JingleHell wrote:
Woot, doc gave the ok to start lifting.

Pretty sure I'm remembering right that my apartment complex's fitness center thingy has a squat rack, so should not even have to pay for a gym membership.

Now to find out if my body is willing to gain mass while lifting.

Make it happen! Hope it goes smoothly for you. Not having to pay for a gym membership is awesome too.


Yeah, going to head over there tonight before TKD and check the room. I figure better to hit it up before TKD, since workouts there are variable.

On that note, will it hurt at all to do TKD on off days of SS? Or at least, will it hurt progress significantly?

You may want to take it easy when you're starting. If TKD is what you enjoy and strength gains are not the main goal it's not a big deal. Just be conscious of how your recovery is going if you do go for significant activity 5+ days a week. A wise man once said you don't get stronger by lifting heavy weights but by recovering from lifting heavy weights
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 31 2012 20:48 GMT
#5799
On August 01 2012 05:41 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2012 05:07 JingleHell wrote:
On August 01 2012 05:02 mordek wrote:
On August 01 2012 05:00 JingleHell wrote:
Woot, doc gave the ok to start lifting.

Pretty sure I'm remembering right that my apartment complex's fitness center thingy has a squat rack, so should not even have to pay for a gym membership.

Now to find out if my body is willing to gain mass while lifting.

Make it happen! Hope it goes smoothly for you. Not having to pay for a gym membership is awesome too.


Yeah, going to head over there tonight before TKD and check the room. I figure better to hit it up before TKD, since workouts there are variable.

On that note, will it hurt at all to do TKD on off days of SS? Or at least, will it hurt progress significantly?

You may want to take it easy when you're starting. If TKD is what you enjoy and strength gains are not the main goal it's not a big deal. Just be conscious of how your recovery is going if you do go for significant activity 5+ days a week. A wise man once said you don't get stronger by lifting heavy weights but by recovering from lifting heavy weights


Strength gains are secondary to weight gain, for me, since I'm depressingly underweight and always borderline unhealthy. The problem, of course, is that my body does a terrible job of retaining fat (ever heard anyone else call that a problem?), so I pretty much need to start lifting to gain weight.

I picked up about ten pounds when I first started doing TKD and body weight, but after that, I stopped gaining weight pretty quickly again, and capped off at a miserly 150 for 6'2, which is pathetic. Granted, I'm one of the most ripped looking scrawny guys I know, but dammit, I'm scrawny.

On the plus side, I should pretty much never need a cut if the current trend maintains itself.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
July 31 2012 21:44 GMT
#5800
All the people I've met that have said they can't put weight on, or keep weight on, just don't eat enough.

My current housemate has said a lot of times about he he eats absolutely loads and just eats till he's full but doesn't put weight on. But living with him I've seen what he eats and his portions are about a quarter of mine. For me, and this is only anecdotal, but the overweight people I know just make their portions too large for what they do and the underweight people have portions too small. I guess it's just what you've gotten used to eating as a portion.
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