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On July 31 2012 10:30 AoN.DimSum wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 08:41 GoTuNk! wrote: Partial Squat 180kgx6x6, 230kg 15 sec hold x3 Push Press: 80kgx1x15 Pull Ups: 5x5
On my way to the olympics lol, I really wanna learn to clean & jerk for the kicks, at least beat the lightest woman within a year (and beat the lightest man in powerlifting for my next meet aswell). Its still a fucking bitch to transition grip between the two. Really dont wanna bech as my right shoulder keeps aching.
Also North korea rolling, capitalist dogs hatin (srsly, wtf, I guess its just a matter of super intestinal fortitude)
Edit: At dimsum or someone who knows about oly lifting, why are they missing so many openers? It seems to me many athletes are opening too heavy instead of going for a sure opener, and lifting calmly for 2nd/3rd attempt. Nerves/opening too heavy. From what I have seen so far, it is mostly nerves. Very uncharacteristic performances from a lot of lifters, but some others performed very well under the pressure of the Olympics. Once I watch all the sessions I'll have more to say. I'm just rooting for the Chinese to step it up. My favorite lifter(Zhang Jie) didn't even medal.  On my own lifting, i'm making some good progress. Yesterday I snatched 95kg off blocks and just missed 100kg. Then I cleaned 120 of blocks. today I front squatted 115x5 for a pr then tried 120 and only got 3. Also can only do squat nemesis once a week since I concentrate on different movements on diff days. Hopefully it will work out lol.
I do front Squat 120kg x 5 .
Clean and Jerked 90kg for the first time today, it felt sick, people in the gym were like "Holy.." 
Back Squat: 80kg, 100kg, 110kg, 120kg, 130kg, 140kg, 150kg, 160kg 125kg, 130kg, 135kg, 140kg, 145kg x 3 100kg x 2 x 5
Clean and Jerk: 40kg x 2, 50kg x 2, 60kg x 4, 70kg x 2, 80kg x 4, 90kg x 1 (PR).

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Lost to #1 seed in ultimate tournament tonight. Bounced back from 8-2 deficit to lose 15-10 so at least some dignity there. Get third place next week npnp.
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Next day, chest still hurts, but localized to right peck. I dun ripped something
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Pictures: http://imgur.com/sdCPn http://imgur.com/mS9W6 Hi, I've been having trouble deciding if I should cut further or begin bulking up. I have lost around 25 pounds to get where I am today and frankly I'm a bit paranoid about bulking and gaining weight (and muscle ofcourse) but I do want that lean toned body, with strength gains ofcourse. Here are my stats: 71 kg (156 lbs) 182 cm (6') 17 years old I am planning to do Starting Strength for my bulk, three times a week, eating 3000-4000 cals a day. So, should I cut a bit more and then bulk, or start bulking up now? And how many calories should I consume? The ultimate goal for me is a ripped body and I hope I can accomplish that in a year or so. The plan is now to maybe bulk for 6 months depending on progress (n00bgains haha) and then a cut of 6 months. Thanks in advance guys!
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On July 31 2012 20:26 KTF_CloaK wrote:Pictures: http://imgur.com/sdCPn http://imgur.com/mS9W6Hi, I've been having trouble deciding if I should cut further or begin bulking up. I have lost around 25 pounds to get where I am today and frankly I'm a bit paranoid about bulking and gaining weight (and muscle ofcourse) but I do want that lean toned body, with strength gains ofcourse. Here are my stats: 71 kg (156 lbs) 182 cm (6') 17 years old I am planning to do Starting Strength for my bulk, three times a week, eating 3000-4000 cals a day. So, should I cut a bit more and then bulk, or start bulking up now? And how many calories should I consume? The ultimate goal for me is a ripped body and I hope I can accomplish that in a year or so. The plan is now to maybe bulk for 6 months depending on progress (n00bgains haha) and then a cut of 6 months. Thanks in advance guys!
Without a doubt bulk.
Imo you could afford to bulk for a lot longer than 6 months.
dont be paranoid about putting weight on! lift heavy and put that muscle on!
good luck
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Tomorrow i go for my first attempt at 100kg DL feeling good 95 last week felt easy. Keen as also attempting 47.5kg press again.
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Bodyweight from this morning: 67.5kg Workout: squat 1x3 75, 95, 2x3 115kg - that shit actually felt hard. Took me a lot longer to get warmed up as well, my left quad kept hurting on my way down. Press 1x3 40, 50, 57.5kg Push press 1x3 65kg Deadlift 1x3 70, 100, 120, 1x1 140, 160kg PR
Clen is definitely kicking my ass quite a bit, but atleast it's doing the job. I'm actually getting pretty lean. Adonis belt is starting to really show, and my forearms are getting kinda vein-y. Pretty cool
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On July 31 2012 20:26 KTF_CloaK wrote:Pictures: http://imgur.com/sdCPn http://imgur.com/mS9W6Hi, I've been having trouble deciding if I should cut further or begin bulking up. I have lost around 25 pounds to get where I am today and frankly I'm a bit paranoid about bulking and gaining weight (and muscle ofcourse) but I do want that lean toned body, with strength gains ofcourse. Here are my stats: 71 kg (156 lbs) 182 cm (6') 17 years old I am planning to do Starting Strength for my bulk, three times a week, eating 3000-4000 cals a day. So, should I cut a bit more and then bulk, or start bulking up now? And how many calories should I consume? The ultimate goal for me is a ripped body and I hope I can accomplish that in a year or so. The plan is now to maybe bulk for 6 months depending on progress (n00bgains haha) and then a cut of 6 months. Thanks in advance guys!
Buuuuulk, you are one skinny bastard. Just at least try to eat clean and get your protein in. Remember to hit the gym hard! GLHF and get dem gainz. Really like to see noobgains.
As for my own progress:
Mid March: 236lbs (107kg) Now: 213lbs (96.6kg)
My original plan was to hit 200lbs by September but in May I went on a 3 week vacation overseas, I think the best I could do now is 205lbs by then. Oh well, my long term goal is to hit 175lbs by Mid March 2013 (to have lost a total of 60lbs in one year). From then I would do a clean bulk through next summer, and then do a normal bulk in the winter 2013 (stay at that lower bf% for the summer, not that I go out of the house except to hit the gym and school lol).
Age: 22 Height: 5'6 (167.5cm, as part of manlet-status I have to add the .5 here hehehehe) LBM: 151lbs (68.5kg) (I've lost about 2 pounds of muscle so far, I didn't lift at all during the first 2 months of my diet, but lifting regularly and good daily protein intake has preserved my LBM since June while losing about 1-2lbs a week. Mostly though I lift because its fun)
Lifting 4 times a week, doing a 5/3/1 with assistance work. Taking Oly lifting classes at the university to properly learn them next month.
My strength is improving and getting close to my old lifts:
Current 5x3 (5reps 3sets) lifts: Bench: 195lbs (88kg) Squat: 295lbs (134kg) Deadlift: 275lbs (125kg)
Goal 5x3 lifts (lifts I used to do 2 years ago before getting fat) (by Janruary 2013): Bench: 225lbs (102kg) Squat: 315lbs (143kg) Deadlift: 315lbs (143kg)
I hope to hit 185lbs by Janruary, slow my diet down and hit 175lbs by my next birthday (March 27 2013). I would be at 14% bodyfat then. On a 700-1000 daily caloric deficit.
I've recently added Front Squats (to help with Oly lifting) and lunges (because I felt like it) and I found out my glutes are really weak in relation to my quads. My glutes are totally dead right now.
In progress: Overhead/Push Press, Clean & Jerk, Snatch (Will report on these after August).
Edit: Adding kg-equivalents
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On July 31 2012 20:26 KTF_CloaK wrote:Pictures: http://imgur.com/sdCPn http://imgur.com/mS9W6Hi, I've been having trouble deciding if I should cut further or begin bulking up. I have lost around 25 pounds to get where I am today and frankly I'm a bit paranoid about bulking and gaining weight (and muscle ofcourse) but I do want that lean toned body, with strength gains ofcourse. Here are my stats: 71 kg (156 lbs) 182 cm (6') 17 years old I am planning to do Starting Strength for my bulk, three times a week, eating 3000-4000 cals a day. So, should I cut a bit more and then bulk, or start bulking up now? And how many calories should I consume? The ultimate goal for me is a ripped body and I hope I can accomplish that in a year or so. The plan is now to maybe bulk for 6 months depending on progress (n00bgains haha) and then a cut of 6 months. Thanks in advance guys! Why not just lift hard and eat clean with a high protein diet? stop when your full and eat healthy when you're hungry....
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On July 31 2012 20:26 KTF_CloaK wrote:Pictures: http://imgur.com/sdCPn http://imgur.com/mS9W6Hi, I've been having trouble deciding if I should cut further or begin bulking up. I have lost around 25 pounds to get where I am today and frankly I'm a bit paranoid about bulking and gaining weight (and muscle ofcourse) but I do want that lean toned body, with strength gains ofcourse. Here are my stats: 71 kg (156 lbs) 182 cm (6') 17 years old I am planning to do Starting Strength for my bulk, three times a week, eating 3000-4000 cals a day. So, should I cut a bit more and then bulk, or start bulking up now? And how many calories should I consume? The ultimate goal for me is a ripped body and I hope I can accomplish that in a year or so. The plan is now to maybe bulk for 6 months depending on progress (n00bgains haha) and then a cut of 6 months. Thanks in advance guys!
Definitely a bulk. I don't know what your maintenance calories are, but find those out.
Then I would recommend eating a large surplus on training days (+40% or so from maintenance) with a small deficit (around -10% from maintenance) on rest days.
Doing SS myself, I was getting in 3000-4000+ calories a day, with most of that coming from a gallon of milk a day. I got strong as hell, but I also got fat. if you aren't training that day, then there is no reason to take in so many calories in my opinion. if you find yourself stalling, then up the rest day calories. Simple as that.
Just my recommendation.
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today:
ohp 45kg 7-7-7-5
nothing else. off work tomorrow at last , sigh
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Woot, doc gave the ok to start lifting.
Pretty sure I'm remembering right that my apartment complex's fitness center thingy has a squat rack, so should not even have to pay for a gym membership.
Now to find out if my body is willing to gain mass while lifting.
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On August 01 2012 05:00 JingleHell wrote: Woot, doc gave the ok to start lifting.
Pretty sure I'm remembering right that my apartment complex's fitness center thingy has a squat rack, so should not even have to pay for a gym membership.
Now to find out if my body is willing to gain mass while lifting. Make it happen! Hope it goes smoothly for you. Not having to pay for a gym membership is awesome too.
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On August 01 2012 05:02 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 05:00 JingleHell wrote: Woot, doc gave the ok to start lifting.
Pretty sure I'm remembering right that my apartment complex's fitness center thingy has a squat rack, so should not even have to pay for a gym membership.
Now to find out if my body is willing to gain mass while lifting. Make it happen! Hope it goes smoothly for you. Not having to pay for a gym membership is awesome too.
Yeah, going to head over there tonight before TKD and check the room. I figure better to hit it up before TKD, since workouts there are variable.
On that note, will it hurt at all to do TKD on off days of SS? Or at least, will it hurt progress significantly?
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On August 01 2012 04:35 Catch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 20:26 KTF_CloaK wrote:Pictures: http://imgur.com/sdCPn http://imgur.com/mS9W6Hi, I've been having trouble deciding if I should cut further or begin bulking up. I have lost around 25 pounds to get where I am today and frankly I'm a bit paranoid about bulking and gaining weight (and muscle ofcourse) but I do want that lean toned body, with strength gains ofcourse. Here are my stats: 71 kg (156 lbs) 182 cm (6') 17 years old I am planning to do Starting Strength for my bulk, three times a week, eating 3000-4000 cals a day. So, should I cut a bit more and then bulk, or start bulking up now? And how many calories should I consume? The ultimate goal for me is a ripped body and I hope I can accomplish that in a year or so. The plan is now to maybe bulk for 6 months depending on progress (n00bgains haha) and then a cut of 6 months. Thanks in advance guys! Definitely a bulk. I don't know what your maintenance calories are, but find those out. Then I would recommend eating a large surplus on training days (+40% or so from maintenance) with a small deficit (around -10% from maintenance) on rest days. Doing SS myself, I was getting in 3000-4000+ calories a day, with most of that coming from a gallon of milk a day. I got strong as hell, but I also got fat. if you aren't training that day, then there is no reason to take in so many calories in my opinion. if you find yourself stalling, then up the rest day calories. Simple as that. Just my recommendation.
My recommendation would just to first find out maintenance calories. And Start with at least +500-1000 (with good protein intake ofc) from that when starting lifting.
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what else do u guys use to mix with protein powder? even a small glass of milk is x.x''
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On August 01 2012 05:22 HeavOnEarth wrote: what else do u guys use to mix with protein powder? even a small glass of milk is x.x''
Water O_o. I use ON Gold Standard Whey cuz it tastes great (to me at least). Everyone has different tastes though.
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On August 01 2012 05:07 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 05:02 mordek wrote:On August 01 2012 05:00 JingleHell wrote: Woot, doc gave the ok to start lifting.
Pretty sure I'm remembering right that my apartment complex's fitness center thingy has a squat rack, so should not even have to pay for a gym membership.
Now to find out if my body is willing to gain mass while lifting. Make it happen! Hope it goes smoothly for you. Not having to pay for a gym membership is awesome too. Yeah, going to head over there tonight before TKD and check the room. I figure better to hit it up before TKD, since workouts there are variable. On that note, will it hurt at all to do TKD on off days of SS? Or at least, will it hurt progress significantly? You may want to take it easy when you're starting. If TKD is what you enjoy and strength gains are not the main goal it's not a big deal. Just be conscious of how your recovery is going if you do go for significant activity 5+ days a week. A wise man once said you don't get stronger by lifting heavy weights but by recovering from lifting heavy weights
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On August 01 2012 05:41 mordek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 05:07 JingleHell wrote:On August 01 2012 05:02 mordek wrote:On August 01 2012 05:00 JingleHell wrote: Woot, doc gave the ok to start lifting.
Pretty sure I'm remembering right that my apartment complex's fitness center thingy has a squat rack, so should not even have to pay for a gym membership.
Now to find out if my body is willing to gain mass while lifting. Make it happen! Hope it goes smoothly for you. Not having to pay for a gym membership is awesome too. Yeah, going to head over there tonight before TKD and check the room. I figure better to hit it up before TKD, since workouts there are variable. On that note, will it hurt at all to do TKD on off days of SS? Or at least, will it hurt progress significantly? You may want to take it easy when you're starting. If TKD is what you enjoy and strength gains are not the main goal it's not a big deal. Just be conscious of how your recovery is going if you do go for significant activity 5+ days a week. A wise man once said you don't get stronger by lifting heavy weights but by recovering from lifting heavy weights 
Strength gains are secondary to weight gain, for me, since I'm depressingly underweight and always borderline unhealthy. The problem, of course, is that my body does a terrible job of retaining fat (ever heard anyone else call that a problem?), so I pretty much need to start lifting to gain weight.
I picked up about ten pounds when I first started doing TKD and body weight, but after that, I stopped gaining weight pretty quickly again, and capped off at a miserly 150 for 6'2, which is pathetic. Granted, I'm one of the most ripped looking scrawny guys I know, but dammit, I'm scrawny.
On the plus side, I should pretty much never need a cut if the current trend maintains itself.
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All the people I've met that have said they can't put weight on, or keep weight on, just don't eat enough.
My current housemate has said a lot of times about he he eats absolutely loads and just eats till he's full but doesn't put weight on. But living with him I've seen what he eats and his portions are about a quarter of mine. For me, and this is only anecdotal, but the overweight people I know just make their portions too large for what they do and the underweight people have portions too small. I guess it's just what you've gotten used to eating as a portion.
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