On July 24 2012 14:26 Risen wrote: Ok folks lifting question time. I'm able to maintain my form for the first set and almost entirely through second set, but third set it fails me and it isn't my legs failing out it's my back. If I start doing squats on my in between days at high reps, very low weight (like 135) will this help me out do you think? Or should I just deload to something low like 185 and work back up? I hate injuries :< Never, NEVER had form issues and now that I'm "ok" my back just isn't the same. Thought the issue would go away but it hasn't. Just deload a lot and work back up? Issue occurs when I do sets past 205 squat (lbs... T_T)
Edit: After typing this out the question feels really stupid. I'm just desperate to get my progress back I think the best option would probably be to just deload to 185 and then work back up. Patience............
Are you wearing a belt? Also it can be hard to tell but sometimes your lower back can be rounding at the bottom. Try and get a video.
Got some decent work in today: Squat 1x5 75, 100, 2x3 112.5kg Press 1x5 40, 50, 57.5, 1x1 65kg and another 2 reps of push press in the same set. - The press isn't really going up, but It's not going down either which is ok I suppose. Nearly at a 1xbw press. Deadlift 1x3 75, 95, 115, 1x2 135, 2x1 155kg PR. - First PR in about 12 months. I made the mistake of working on my grip on Sunday, which definitely made my Deadlift suffer today. Could have probably gotten another rep or two if it weren't for that, but I'm pretty happy regardless. Curls 3x8 35kg+whatever the EZ-curl bar weighs. I made sure to do full ROM in these sets, so that's pretty nice.
Does anyone else find this trend of "I'm a manly man and this is what manly men do, and if you don't then you're a pussy" in the lifting industry to be sort of awkward and forced? It really feels like it's either a person overcompensating, or a person trying to sell you something. The worst part is is that a lot of the guys doing it seem like really smart guys, but the whole act only makes them come across as meathead-y.
On July 24 2012 22:02 Luxae wrote: Does anyone else find this trend of "I'm a manly man and this is what manly men do, and if you don't then you're a pussy" in the lifting industry to be sort of awkward and forced? It really feels like it's either a person overcompensating, or a person trying to sell you something. The worst part is is that a lot of the guys doing it seem like really smart guys, but the whole act only makes them come across as meathead-y.
I can hardly get through the good strength blogs without getting annoyed. "So you don't like to squat hard every day? Better get your purse you fucking pussy. Let me tell you how it is, you don't deserve to be strong you little wuss." I am too old for that stuff, and I am younger than the guys writing it. Just use some normal language, it seriously annoys me.
I'm not a fan of it but I also don't mind it too much. They have to tailor their writing to a specific audience. Added to that, you probably have to be like a drill sergeant a bit if you're running one of those large strength gyms, and that comes through in the writing. Obviously we are not the intended audience, so I just take it for what it is.
Also, I just got my CFA Level 1 results. Passed! :D
On July 24 2012 23:45 mordek wrote: Financial analyst methinks? Congrats!
Yeah, Chartered Financial Analyst. Only level 1 out of 3, and then I still need like 4 years of work experience, but it's by far the hardest thing I've had to study for in my life, so I'm damn happy I made it
As for the tough talk, I don't mind, I understand the mentality and at the same time I think it's funny. Lifting heavy is alot about state of mind I think, I can lift way more if I go into grunting caveman mentality first. You can't really persuade the iron off the ground, you just have to show it who's boss, and to be boss is to be a manly man.
On July 25 2012 00:30 Osmoses wrote: Congratulations Daigomi!
As for the tough talk, I don't mind, I understand the mentality and at the same time I think it's funny. Lifting heavy is alot about state of mind I think, I can lift way more if I go into grunting caveman mentality first. You can't really persuade the iron off the ground, you just have to show it who's boss, and to be boss is to be a manly man.
Ya I actually like it aswell. Can't hurt thinking of yourself of a badass/lunatic inside the gym.
Also, I'm clean & jerking 100kg before the end of august ( I don't know how to jerk, nor clean properly but fuck that) just because of this.
On July 24 2012 23:32 Daigomi wrote: I'm not a fan of it but I also don't mind it too much. They have to tailor their writing to a specific audience. Added to that, you probably have to be like a drill sergeant a bit if you're running one of those large strength gyms, and that comes through in the writing. Obviously we are not the intended audience, so I just take it for what it is.
Also, I just got my CFA Level 1 results. Passed! :D
Yeah exactly this. I'm not a fan but you can just ignore it to be honest.
On July 25 2012 02:26 YoucriedWolf wrote: That is some impressive C&J. I really wish people would think twice before using the roids excuse for everything.
I love how the top related video that's not of the same kid is an american 8 year old setting a "national powerlifting record" for his age/weight at 75 lbs in the bench press. Lol culture.
As far as the tone of most weightlifting blogs, I appreciate it. Weightlifting is not an area where you can "think" the weight into moving. You can't plan perfectly how to improve - you can set all the percentages, do the right assistance work, but at a certain point you just have to walk up to the bar and say "I am not letting go until you are in the air". In most other areas of life, when you encounter a problem that can't be solved immediately, the answer isn't "try harder" it's "figure out another way" - so I have problems with the weightlifting approach, and I find that the attitude of most blogs helps me get in the right mindset, and get focused on making a lift, no matter what. I'm glad they're written that way.
On July 25 2012 02:26 YoucriedWolf wrote: That is some impressive C&J. I really wish people would think twice before using the roids excuse for everything.
I love how the top related video that's not of the same kid is an american 8 year old setting a "national powerlifting record" for his age/weight at 75 lbs in the bench press. Lol culture.
As far as the tone of most weightlifting blogs, I appreciate it. Weightlifting is not an area where you can "think" the weight into moving. You can't plan perfectly how to improve - you can set all the percentages, do the right assistance work, but at a certain point you just have to walk up to the bar and say "I am not letting go until you are in the air". In most other areas of life, when you encounter a problem that can't be solved immediately, the answer isn't "try harder" it's "figure out another way" - so I have problems with the weightlifting approach, and I find that the attitude of most blogs helps me get in the right mindset, and get focused on making a lift, no matter what. I'm glad they're written that way.
Exactly. It's all about getting people in the right mindset for the gym. Even thought not all people go to the gym to lift weights, it always "Uplifts" your spirit to read a good story about people breaking their PR's or reading a couple of pages of this thread.
Specially those pages where there are videos, you see people whom you have been talking to for quite a while and they're doing awesome shit, lifting heavy and making a change in their lives that without lifting, it could not be so.
I really like the way we post videos, it's actually good because:
1.- Keeps you real, you're lifting heavy, there are people lifting heavier, and you need to play catch up. 2.- helps people who are below your lifting level, get to where you are, and even surpass you. I love it.
It's awesome, sometimes blog writers take it "over the top" and take it to an extreme that is..yeah "snobby". But as phyre said, I don't really mind, I just wanna get psyched and ready to lift heavy heavy shit.
Haha little OT but I was just watched the Avatar episode where Aang has to learn to earthbend, and it's just as you describe. He's naturally an air bender that has to be creative/adaptive to solve problems but to earthbend you just have to believe in yourself and charge head on at the problem.
I agree the 'man up' talk gets a little juvenile at time, and can definitely be counter productive. There's something to be said for the consistence/persistance philosophy where it's ok if you have a deload week and don't hit a PR every time you step in the gym, as long as you're still working hard and intelligently towards your goals. Then again sometimes you do just need a kick in the arse...
EPT
I think the best option would probably be to just deload to 185 and then work back up. Patience............
