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GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
June 29 2012 17:25 GMT
#4861
On June 29 2012 15:31 Luxae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 07:35 Deadeight wrote:
On June 29 2012 05:28 Luxae wrote:
On June 29 2012 01:24 GoTuNk! wrote:
On June 28 2012 15:04 Luxae wrote:
On June 28 2012 13:42 GoTuNk! wrote:
Getting ready for smolov. Purchased a foam roller, but the best fish oil pills I can find have 600 EPA+DHA. is it ok to get them and pop 5 pills a day? (Thats recomended dosage right?)


As someone who absolutely hates high volume, I'm always curious when people decide to run one of the extremely high volume programs. Are you running Smolov because you're stuck or trying to peak for a meet? I really can't imagine someone going through it just for the fun of it.


I need to gain weight and its just so time efficient its ridic. Last time was 20kg in 3 weeks and 4 days; if I can get 15kg I'll be damn happy now. Traditional power cycles deliver like 10kg every 8 weeks or something.

Did you end up retaining all/most of that gain following the cycle? I'm asking because the other Smolov related experiences all seemed to indicate a drop in the lift numbers after they peaked with the cycle.


I don't understand how the number would then drop.


The way I understood it is that Smolov tends to "peak" you for a certain time period, after which you get some sort of drop in your lift due to fatigue or the return to a much lower volume of training.


Depending on your size, if you don't put at least 2 pounds of leg muscles doing smolov you are doing something wrong. Today going for 147.5x5x3. If I can do that, I'll use 175kg as my 1RM for smolov.
Yeah I lost some of the progress cause I did the full thing plus I stopped squatting a month+cut 2kg.
I wont make any of those mistakes, actually I'm sure if I switch to something that involves working up to a heavy single I weel keep making progress :p. Will still cut again though :p
extr3me
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway145 Posts
June 29 2012 17:48 GMT
#4862
Jeez i gotta get my shit together before extreme starts smashing my PRs!! I've got to re-up my deadlift once i have time to recover (2 weeks perhaps?) and i'm pushing my back squat everyday. I smashed 198 and went for 202 twice but missed it real close both times :-/ Are you doing low bar or high bar?


I am doing high bar, havent really tested out low bar yet.
I havent been really worked on my squats for so long either, about 3 weeks from now I think.

Yeah bottom will be heaviest, the force needed to raise it will vary with Sinϑ, where ϑ is the angle between tyre and floor.

Also, you went from 170kg to 200kg in like a week?! Are you on steroids? Haha, impressive gain.


Haha, no I am not on roids/juice. Alot of people here in this town thinks I do it, but I dont like roids at all so this is all natural. Been working hard without belt the 2 first weeks, and this week I've tryed belt first time and did 200kg
Stay strong, forever strong!
extr3me
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway145 Posts
June 29 2012 17:49 GMT
#4863
And yes, i did have a nice deadlift session today also :D
5x 120kg
5x 180kg
3x 220kg
Stay strong, forever strong!
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
June 29 2012 19:17 GMT
#4864
Was bored with not having any doms lately so i spent an extra hour on the gym trying my best to beat the shit out of my legs. Didn't work i think. The second I hit the showers I always feel like I had more to give. Damnit.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
June 29 2012 21:15 GMT
#4865
Holy hell doms.

Taking a week off lifting + PSMF + gylcogen depleting workout = God Level DOMS
Victory Loves Preparation
Cecil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States368 Posts
June 29 2012 21:36 GMT
#4866
New Tough Mudder obstacles:


Going to TM Tampa in December. Anybody going ?
www.regimentrunning.com
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
June 29 2012 21:36 GMT
#4867
On June 30 2012 02:48 extr3me wrote:
Show nested quote +
Jeez i gotta get my shit together before extreme starts smashing my PRs!! I've got to re-up my deadlift once i have time to recover (2 weeks perhaps?) and i'm pushing my back squat everyday. I smashed 198 and went for 202 twice but missed it real close both times :-/ Are you doing low bar or high bar?


I am doing high bar, havent really tested out low bar yet.
I havent been really worked on my squats for so long either, about 3 weeks from now I think.

Show nested quote +
Yeah bottom will be heaviest, the force needed to raise it will vary with Sinϑ, where ϑ is the angle between tyre and floor.

Also, you went from 170kg to 200kg in like a week?! Are you on steroids? Haha, impressive gain.


Haha, no I am not on roids/juice. Alot of people here in this town thinks I do it, but I dont like roids at all so this is all natural. Been working hard without belt the 2 first weeks, and this week I've tryed belt first time and did 200kg



Nice, that's really strong.

Make sure you post a video sometime when you squat above 200kg, then you'll be top 5. You've gone up weight really quick, might not even be that long till you beat Anabolicqt who is #1 at the moment with 225kg.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 21:40:08
June 29 2012 21:39 GMT
#4868
On June 29 2012 09:43 decafchicken wrote:

Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 23:11 Deadeight wrote:
On June 28 2012 12:17 decafchicken wrote:
funkie if you're doing triples at the same as your daily 1RM then you're not going high enough on the 1 rep

Todays workouts
1x60 minute massage :D although i think my hips and shoulders would need a solid weeks worth of massage to get the kinks out



What was this like?

I've wanted a proper massage but thought that it would be awkward with a bloke and I'd get a boner with a woman. I assume you just get naked and lie down, otherwise they couldn't do glutes I guess.


Haha most massage therapist are women, especially if youre a guy you'll pretty much always get a girl unless you request a male. It's not that awkward, but yeah you get naked and get under the sheets, massage therapist comes in and turns on music and starts rubbing you down in oil and massaging out everything. It feels fucking awesome. As long as your mind doesnt drift too much you should be just like "wow this is awesome" and not even worried about popping an awkward boner. I havent gotten one, but i can imagine if i was like 17 just having a raging hardon rofl



I have no clue what I'm doing but when I'm sat down I massage my own quads and it's awesome. I might look into getting one. I've gotten my girlfriend to do try a few times but it's not as easy as you'd think.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
June 29 2012 22:12 GMT
#4869
man i just realized something. most of my jeans/pants don't fit anymore.

this is a proud moment for me, but an expensive one as well... guess that's what gaining 27~ pounds in 3 1/2 months is gonna do
extr3me
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway145 Posts
June 29 2012 22:30 GMT
#4870
Make sure you post a video sometime when you squat above 200kg, then you'll be top 5. You've gone up weight really quick, might not even be that long till you beat Anabolicqt who is #1 at the moment with 225kg.


Then ill try on 225kg in not to long.
Stay strong, forever strong!
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
June 29 2012 22:30 GMT
#4871
Aha moment in the gym today.

Squat: 147.5kgx5x3
OHP: 60kgx3x3, 55kgx2x3

Today was test day for Smolov, to know u are in shape to do it u are supposed to squat 85%x5x3 of the 1rm u are using. Aced it, cant wait to start. Squat felt more solid than it has in a long time. Got fish oil, vit D and creatine for the next 3 weeks. Too bad can't find where to buy a foam roaller. Is it possible to make one myself?
I have 2 hard exams left, one each week. Cant wait to complete everything oo.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
June 29 2012 23:10 GMT
#4872
Today's workout (thanks to decaf for the coaching, also 60cm of subway stuff is thx).

Back Squat: 60kg, 80kg, 90kg, 100kg, 110kg, 120kg, 130kg, 140kg, 150kg
120kg, 125kg, 130kg, 135kg, 140kg x 3
100kg x 2 x 5
(felt easy as fuck this workout, couldn't believe it I need some soreness.

Press: 70kg x 3 x 5

Deadlift: 140kg x 5, 150kg x 1.

pretty good ye?
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
June 29 2012 23:14 GMT
#4873
Holy fuck I'm embarrassed, I was headbanging to some music while I stepped under the bar in the squat rack, smashed the back of my head into the bar, sooooo glad I work out alone
extr3me
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway145 Posts
June 30 2012 00:33 GMT
#4874
Today's workout (thanks to decaf for the coaching, also 60cm of subway stuff is thx).

Back Squat: 60kg, 80kg, 90kg, 100kg, 110kg, 120kg, 130kg, 140kg, 150kg
120kg, 125kg, 130kg, 135kg, 140kg x 3
100kg x 2 x 5
(felt easy as fuck this workout, couldn't believe it I need some soreness.

Press: 70kg x 3 x 5

Deadlift: 140kg x 5, 150kg x 1.

pretty good ye?


Yea it is pretty good, keep it up mate
Stay strong, forever strong!
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
June 30 2012 02:07 GMT
#4875
On June 30 2012 02:25 GoTuNk! wrote:
Depending on your size, if you don't put at least 2 pounds of leg muscles doing smolov you are doing something wrong. Today going for 147.5x5x3. If I can do that, I'll use 175kg as my 1RM for smolov.
Yeah I lost some of the progress cause I did the full thing plus I stopped squatting a month+cut 2kg.
I wont make any of those mistakes, actually I'm sure if I switch to something that involves working up to a heavy single I weel keep making progress :p. Will still cut again though :p


Something like what decaf and funkie are doing right now?

Work up to a max single (actually fail the rep).
Reset to 70-75%% of single and work up in triples, 5-10 lb jumps. Do not go to a miss.
2-3 back off sets focused on speed after triples

That about right? Sounds like a good time IMO.

On June 30 2012 07:12 shawster wrote:
man i just realized something. most of my jeans/pants don't fit anymore.

this is a proud moment for me, but an expensive one as well... guess that's what gaining 27~ pounds in 3 1/2 months is gonna do


Not fitting in the waist or the leg? When I gained my first ~25 lbs, my waist didn't move at all. It's slowly gone up around an inch since then (over the next 30 pounds) but it's still holding constant enough to keep the same pants. The killer thing is when your glutes/quads become too big to fit in pants legs, because then it's not just a matter of buying new pants in a different size, you have to figure out a whole new cut/style/whatever.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
June 30 2012 02:50 GMT
#4876
On June 30 2012 11:07 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 02:25 GoTuNk! wrote:
Depending on your size, if you don't put at least 2 pounds of leg muscles doing smolov you are doing something wrong. Today going for 147.5x5x3. If I can do that, I'll use 175kg as my 1RM for smolov.
Yeah I lost some of the progress cause I did the full thing plus I stopped squatting a month+cut 2kg.
I wont make any of those mistakes, actually I'm sure if I switch to something that involves working up to a heavy single I weel keep making progress :p. Will still cut again though :p


Something like what decaf and funkie are doing right now?

Work up to a max single (actually fail the rep).
Reset to 70-75%% of single and work up in triples, 5-10 lb jumps. Do not go to a miss.
2-3 back off sets focused on speed after triples

That about right? Sounds like a good time IMO.


It actually is pretty damn fun to do this workout. I, however, don't go into a "miss". I don't like that feeling of miss, so I try to put as much weight as I can, and always go for the rep, always. A miss is not admisible .

I think in the program the jumps are in kg and not in lbs. Not sure tho, might have to double check with decaf.

Other than that, yes, it's pretty fun, and it's intense as hell by the time you do the 2-3 backoff sets, your legs will have this burning feeling ;o.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
June 30 2012 03:58 GMT
#4877
Sugery over. They found infection, on IV vancomycin for 6 weeks :|

Good news is it all went well apart from that, fixation is complete, will be lifted of phys restrictions in 10 weeks, start pt in 4 weeks.
Seth_
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Belgium184 Posts
June 30 2012 04:21 GMT
#4878
Ok, time to write down an update after 14 weeks.

On March 17 2012 17:21 Seth_ wrote:
Seth_
Age: 22|| Height: 1.76 m || Weight: 72.5 kg
Starting Date: 19/03/12 || Goal Date: 1/07/12
Weight goals -- stay the same weight; decrease BF% (tabita scale said 13.2%)
There's a bit more muscles definition. I think I'm still at 12-13%, should have lost some more fat.

On March 17 2012 17:21 Seth_ wrote:
- squat 3 x 5: 48 kg => 85 kg
87,5 yeah Squats are awesome. 1,2x BW

On March 17 2012 17:21 Seth_ wrote:
- press 3 x 5: 30 => 42.5
I failed 32,5 today so I'm still at 30 My arms are weak.

On March 17 2012 17:21 Seth_ wrote:
- bench press 3 x 5: 35 => 65
Not that much improvement either. Only 45.

On March 17 2012 17:21 Seth_ wrote:
- deadlift 1 x 5: 50 => 100
Got to 100!

On March 17 2012 17:21 Seth_ wrote:
- Power clean 3 x 5: 30 => 60
I didn't do that many PCs. I should be able to do 50 or 60 kg.

On March 17 2012 17:21 Seth_ wrote:
- Run as close to a 3k Cooper test by the end of May. (current PR: 2.7 km)
I ran 2,825 km, not as much as I would have hoped, but it's decent enough. I also ran a 10k PR.

On March 17 2012 17:21 Seth_ wrote:
Misc/stress goals: make good progress on master thesis.
I failed this so hard. I've barely made any progress; now I have to work on it for the entire summer.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
June 30 2012 04:24 GMT
#4879
On June 30 2012 11:07 phyre112 wrote:


Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 07:12 shawster wrote:
man i just realized something. most of my jeans/pants don't fit anymore.

this is a proud moment for me, but an expensive one as well... guess that's what gaining 27~ pounds in 3 1/2 months is gonna do


Not fitting in the waist or the leg? When I gained my first ~25 lbs, my waist didn't move at all. It's slowly gone up around an inch since then (over the next 30 pounds) but it's still holding constant enough to keep the same pants. The killer thing is when your glutes/quads become too big to fit in pants legs, because then it's not just a matter of buying new pants in a different size, you have to figure out a whole new cut/style/whatever.


both. i've found that buying new pants that my waist went up 2-3 inches. but the jeans that fit my waist are all skinny jeans now. like they hug my thighs reallly tight. i can still wear but it's damn uncomfortable. i gotta get a new style and new pants haha
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-30 09:24:48
June 30 2012 09:15 GMT
#4880
On June 30 2012 12:58 Froadac wrote:
Sugery over. They found infection, on IV vancomycin for 6 weeks :|

Good news is it all went well apart from that, fixation is complete, will be lifted of phys restrictions in 10 weeks, start pt in 4 weeks.

Brosympathy over here, hang in another month.

On June 30 2012 11:07 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 07:12 shawster wrote:
man i just realized something. most of my jeans/pants don't fit anymore.

this is a proud moment for me, but an expensive one as well... guess that's what gaining 27~ pounds in 3 1/2 months is gonna do

Not fitting in the waist or the leg? When I gained my first ~25 lbs, my waist didn't move at all. It's slowly gone up around an inch since then (over the next 30 pounds) but it's still holding constant enough to keep the same pants. The killer thing is when your glutes/quads become too big to fit in pants legs, because then it's not just a matter of buying new pants in a different size, you have to figure out a whole new cut/style/whatever.

Aye, during my cut I lost alot of junk around my waist but my quads and my calves got much bigger. Have to struggle to get jeans down when I take a shit. It's great.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
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