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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
June 28 2012 12:52 GMT
#4841
On June 28 2012 12:17 decafchicken wrote:
funkie if you're doing triples at the same as your daily 1RM then you're not going high enough on the 1 rep

Todays workouts
1x60 minute massage :D although i think my hips and shoulders would need a solid weeks worth of massage to get the kinks out


okok

Will try to increase my 1RM and keep the triples close to it
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
June 28 2012 12:56 GMT
#4842
or maybe you should just drop the volume a bit.
or is there a special reason you work up to a heavy single, then drop the weight, start from pretty low again and work up to a heavy triple? instead you could just do a few heavy triples after your single maybe?
I'm no expert in programming but it just seems like a waste of energy to me.
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 28 2012 13:08 GMT
#4843
Lifted after work because I didn't get home from softball until like 11 the night before. Got my squat up to 245 3x5 (was supposed to go for 290 3 weeks ago-ish before break) Went directly to ultimate. Legs felt like rubber and couldn't jump for the first half hour lol XD. Don't think i'll do that again. Feels good to be back on the train though. Moved up on OHP too!

Also, looking into programs to help vertical... tired of watching smaller people sky me
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 14:11:35
June 28 2012 14:11 GMT
#4844
On June 28 2012 12:17 decafchicken wrote:
funkie if you're doing triples at the same as your daily 1RM then you're not going high enough on the 1 rep

Todays workouts
1x60 minute massage :D although i think my hips and shoulders would need a solid weeks worth of massage to get the kinks out



What was this like?

I've wanted a proper massage but thought that it would be awkward with a bloke and I'd get a boner with a woman. I assume you just get naked and lie down, otherwise they couldn't do glutes I guess.
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 14:30:51
June 28 2012 14:28 GMT
#4845
Today:

squat
5x 69
5x 84
5x 102
5x 117
3x 138
10x 102

bench
5x 45
5x 54
5x 66
5x 75
3x 90
8x 66

C&J
singles 50, 55, 60, 65, 70, 75, 80
Clean singles
85, 85, 88, 88, pulled 90 4 times and couldn't get under it today

rows
5x 65kg
3x 78kg
8x 66kg

KLOKOV PRESS
3x5 45kg

Going to the beach tomorrow for 3 days, Ill do nothing but lay down, soak in the pool/sea and drink
Starting my cut on monday, gonna try to lose 6kg. I'm still not sure how to do it, both IF and anabolic diet caught my eye but I'm undecided. Gonna just start by not eating so fucking much haha. See you monday TLH&F!
http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
extr3me
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway145 Posts
June 28 2012 14:43 GMT
#4846
Steel ones cost about twice as much, I looked but couldn't afford.

25 minutes away on the train from me is a proper strongman gym, I only found out recently. I won't go to it for every workout because it's £30 a month or £5 a day, and another £5 for the train. My uni gym is 2 minutes away and cost £120 for the whole year. Still, I'll go probably twice a month.

It has a bunch of stuff like you said (farmers, yoke, frame, tyres, logs) and atlas stones up to 240kg! Apparently only two people have picked up the 240kg stone.

Only thing is their tyres are between 400-500kg. I'm not so sure if I can flip that, it sounds like a lot, but I've never flipped one before.


Yes its true the steel ones are not cheap, but I do know a guy who may will make it to me
If u want to train and became an strongman, you gotta workout as a strongman atleast once a week
Yea the atlas stones are sick :DD
To train with tyres, you have to take max reps in 1min it works for me pretty well, but it is so hard man

Damn, i just had 170kg as max in squat for a week ago.
Now I've tryed with belt, damn I did my main goal for this year 200kg :D
5x 100kg
5x 140kg
1x 170kg
1x 180kg
1x 200kg fuck yes! :DD
Stay strong, forever strong!
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
June 28 2012 16:08 GMT
#4847
On June 28 2012 10:27 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 05:45 extr3me wrote:
STRONGMAN LOG


Damn, i am looking for sort of the same equip.
But in steel and gonna fix some stones, farmers, yoke and I do have a tyre on 400kg.

Did 9flips in 50secs with 400kg tyre



Steel ones cost about twice as much, I looked but couldn't afford.

25 minutes away on the train from me is a proper strongman gym, I only found out recently. I won't go to it for every workout because it's £30 a month or £5 a day, and another £5 for the train. My uni gym is 2 minutes away and cost £120 for the whole year. Still, I'll go probably twice a month.

It has a bunch of stuff like you said (farmers, yoke, frame, tyres, logs) and atlas stones up to 240kg! Apparently only two people have picked up the 240kg stone.

Only thing is their tyres are between 400-500kg. I'm not so sure if I can flip that, it sounds like a lot, but I've never flipped one before.


4-500kg tyres are alot easier to flip than it sounds actually, you'll probably be surprised if you try it
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
June 28 2012 16:24 GMT
#4848
On June 28 2012 15:04 Luxae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 13:42 GoTuNk! wrote:
Getting ready for smolov. Purchased a foam roller, but the best fish oil pills I can find have 600 EPA+DHA. is it ok to get them and pop 5 pills a day? (Thats recomended dosage right?)


As someone who absolutely hates high volume, I'm always curious when people decide to run one of the extremely high volume programs. Are you running Smolov because you're stuck or trying to peak for a meet? I really can't imagine someone going through it just for the fun of it.


I need to gain weight and its just so time efficient its ridic. Last time was 20kg in 3 weeks and 4 days; if I can get 15kg I'll be damn happy now. Traditional power cycles deliver like 10kg every 8 weeks or something.
extr3me
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway145 Posts
June 28 2012 18:11 GMT
#4849
4-500kg tyres are alot easier to flip than it sounds actually, you'll probably be surprised if you try it


Yea exactly, sounds heavy but the truth is that its now that really hard.
It could be heavy tho, if u dont have any deadlift in there.
From the begining is the hardest part imo.
Stay strong, forever strong!
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 19:54:34
June 28 2012 19:40 GMT
#4850
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01k0fs0/episodes/guide

Interesting videos on how the food industry got so big. I just watched the first episode. Seems like mainstream is finally attacking sugar consumption instead of fat.

edit: I just realized I can't watch those links. Only for ppl in UK.

Part 1: of ep 1
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
June 28 2012 19:49 GMT
#4851
On June 29 2012 03:11 extr3me wrote:
Show nested quote +
4-500kg tyres are alot easier to flip than it sounds actually, you'll probably be surprised if you try it


Yea exactly, sounds heavy but the truth is that its now that really hard.
It could be heavy tho, if u dont have any deadlift in there.
From the begining is the hardest part imo.



Yeah bottom will be heaviest, the force needed to raise it will vary with Sinϑ, where ϑ is the angle between tyre and floor.

Also, you went from 170kg to 200kg in like a week?! Are you on steroids? Haha, impressive gain.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 28 2012 20:10 GMT
#4852
On June 29 2012 04:49 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 03:11 extr3me wrote:
4-500kg tyres are alot easier to flip than it sounds actually, you'll probably be surprised if you try it


Yea exactly, sounds heavy but the truth is that its now that really hard.
It could be heavy tho, if u dont have any deadlift in there.
From the begining is the hardest part imo.



Yeah bottom will be heaviest, the force needed to raise it will vary with Sinϑ, where ϑ is the angle between tyre and floor.

Also, you went from 170kg to 200kg in like a week?! Are you on steroids? Haha, impressive gain.

He put on a magical belt I think.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Luxae
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel232 Posts
June 28 2012 20:28 GMT
#4853
On June 29 2012 01:24 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 15:04 Luxae wrote:
On June 28 2012 13:42 GoTuNk! wrote:
Getting ready for smolov. Purchased a foam roller, but the best fish oil pills I can find have 600 EPA+DHA. is it ok to get them and pop 5 pills a day? (Thats recomended dosage right?)


As someone who absolutely hates high volume, I'm always curious when people decide to run one of the extremely high volume programs. Are you running Smolov because you're stuck or trying to peak for a meet? I really can't imagine someone going through it just for the fun of it.


I need to gain weight and its just so time efficient its ridic. Last time was 20kg in 3 weeks and 4 days; if I can get 15kg I'll be damn happy now. Traditional power cycles deliver like 10kg every 8 weeks or something.

Did you end up retaining all/most of that gain following the cycle? I'm asking because the other Smolov related experiences all seemed to indicate a drop in the lift numbers after they peaked with the cycle.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
June 28 2012 22:35 GMT
#4854
On June 29 2012 05:28 Luxae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 01:24 GoTuNk! wrote:
On June 28 2012 15:04 Luxae wrote:
On June 28 2012 13:42 GoTuNk! wrote:
Getting ready for smolov. Purchased a foam roller, but the best fish oil pills I can find have 600 EPA+DHA. is it ok to get them and pop 5 pills a day? (Thats recomended dosage right?)


As someone who absolutely hates high volume, I'm always curious when people decide to run one of the extremely high volume programs. Are you running Smolov because you're stuck or trying to peak for a meet? I really can't imagine someone going through it just for the fun of it.


I need to gain weight and its just so time efficient its ridic. Last time was 20kg in 3 weeks and 4 days; if I can get 15kg I'll be damn happy now. Traditional power cycles deliver like 10kg every 8 weeks or something.

Did you end up retaining all/most of that gain following the cycle? I'm asking because the other Smolov related experiences all seemed to indicate a drop in the lift numbers after they peaked with the cycle.


I don't understand how the number would then drop.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 23:55:05
June 28 2012 23:53 GMT
#4855
On June 29 2012 07:35 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 05:28 Luxae wrote:
On June 29 2012 01:24 GoTuNk! wrote:
On June 28 2012 15:04 Luxae wrote:
On June 28 2012 13:42 GoTuNk! wrote:
Getting ready for smolov. Purchased a foam roller, but the best fish oil pills I can find have 600 EPA+DHA. is it ok to get them and pop 5 pills a day? (Thats recomended dosage right?)


As someone who absolutely hates high volume, I'm always curious when people decide to run one of the extremely high volume programs. Are you running Smolov because you're stuck or trying to peak for a meet? I really can't imagine someone going through it just for the fun of it.


I need to gain weight and its just so time efficient its ridic. Last time was 20kg in 3 weeks and 4 days; if I can get 15kg I'll be damn happy now. Traditional power cycles deliver like 10kg every 8 weeks or something.

Did you end up retaining all/most of that gain following the cycle? I'm asking because the other Smolov related experiences all seemed to indicate a drop in the lift numbers after they peaked with the cycle.


I don't understand how the number would then drop.


Typically when someone comes off smolov, they're worn out on squatting and they want to focus on DL, or bench, or anything else in the entire world. If you stop squatting, obviously your numbers are going to drop, especially if your numbers are super pumped up from how you've been squatting before.

I had to take a 2 week break from lifting after I hit my PR in smolov, and another week from squatting. So even though I gained ~30 lbs on my 1rm at the end of the the cycle, after my three weeks off I was down ~15 pounds from that. Following those weeks, I focused more heavily on DL, and squatted less often (going to a daily max ~2x/week) so while I maintained my lift, it never went back up.

On June 29 2012 05:10 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 04:49 Deadeight wrote:
On June 29 2012 03:11 extr3me wrote:
4-500kg tyres are alot easier to flip than it sounds actually, you'll probably be surprised if you try it


Yea exactly, sounds heavy but the truth is that its now that really hard.
It could be heavy tho, if u dont have any deadlift in there.
From the begining is the hardest part imo.



Yeah bottom will be heaviest, the force needed to raise it will vary with Sinϑ, where ϑ is the angle between tyre and floor.

Also, you went from 170kg to 200kg in like a week?! Are you on steroids? Haha, impressive gain.

He put on a magical belt I think.


Yeah, really impressive. I could understand if you've never really used belt/wraps before and put them on, it might be worth 10-15kg... but 30? WOW.
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
June 29 2012 00:42 GMT
#4856
A belt did the same thing for me when I tested my 1rms before starting coan/phillipi. I failed 365 squat, put a belt on and got up to 395
RIP CHARLIEMURPHY 11/25/10 NEVER FORGET | Hurricane#1183 @ B.net
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20106 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 02:38:43
June 29 2012 00:43 GMT
#4857
MEGA POST

Todays workout:
Back squat - 315 345 365 385 405 420 435 445x 445x (PR failure ) then 3x355 365 375 385 and 2x5 @ 225
Clean and jerk - 135 185 225 245 drop 135 155 175 185 195 205 215 225 245 255 265 275 285 295 305 315 325(no jerk) 335(no jerk)
Clean pulls - 3x2 @ 355
On June 28 2012 16:46 phyre112 wrote:
Workout today:

drunk-girl-carry-homes 2x14 blocks (2 girls, 14 blocks from the bar, took two trips.)
drunk-girl-massages 1x25 minutes (not worth it)

As far as drinking though... I was out for a 21st birthday party, and I honestly feel like alcohol's not even worth drinking any more. I built up a solid tolerance level BEFORE I started lifting, when I was 135 pounds. I've put on 55 pounds since then, and still gaining, and I have to drink half a damn fifth to get buzzing. Going to the bars, I'll drop 30-40 bucks and still be good to drive... It's ridiculous the things that I could afford to do if I were to stop drinking once or twice a week like I am now. I would have my lifting shoes in three weeks, I would have money to change all my chicken to beef/steak, I could save up for a new PC twice as fast as I already am... I already don't do beer (don't like it, and it fucks with me because I don't have any other gluten in my diet) and although I love me some bourbon... It wouldn't be that hard to cut out. I'll be hosting plenty of parties this year, and if I can't be comfortable, sober, in my own home... there's seriously something wrong with me. Perhaps the Saranac Lake tournament with my team will be pretty much a "last hurrah" as far as drinking goes. Decaf, you in?

haha i know what you mean, its obnoxious how much liquor it takes to get me drink. used to hate beer but drank so much of it with rugby i've grown quite fond of it. Though it takes forever to get drunk off of so i usually just end up drinking a fifth and then switching to beer. But yeah its nice not spending ~20/night like i was at school, but then again now i usually spend more than that when i do go out once a week (highest so far was 120 + 50 at my cousins wedding weekend) lol

But no, in my experience you will NOT be able to handle being sober at a party in your house lol. Too loud + too much ridiculous shit (if you guys party like we do) to be sober lol. But i am CONFIRMED KILL on saranac...get ready to get your ass kicked and then drank under the table ^_^ (boss is letting me take three days off rofl i only work here 12 weeks total and i've already taken 1.5 days off)

On June 28 2012 21:29 AoN.DimSum wrote:
damn everybody is getting strong!

i switched up my program and started back squatting and front squating every day. I'm hoping to hit 180 back squat by the end of the summer.

Decaf i have been trying more volume in front squats(3-5 reps) and it is helping me keep my upper back from caving in. Im probably going to stick with higher reps for now to see if i can get my triples up.


Yeah the triples are helping me a lot. My back isn't caving till i'm cleaning 145+ and this is after doing my squat workout.

P.S. Coming to pendlays open lift thing next weekend?? I sent in my sign up...eek! Gonna try to open 125 and 145 and go for 135/155 (130/150 current PRs)


On June 28 2012 21:56 Zafrumi wrote:
or maybe you should just drop the volume a bit.
or is there a special reason you work up to a heavy single, then drop the weight, start from pretty low again and work up to a heavy triple? instead you could just do a few heavy triples after your single maybe?
I'm no expert in programming but it just seems like a waste of energy to me.


The heavy triples is where the gains come from baby. And funkie is doing it wrong so dont look at those numbers lol, It should only be ~5 heavy singles give or take and then 3-5 triples. the 2x5 at ~50% isn't really a concern. So in total theres only 14-20 reps at a real working weight.


On June 28 2012 23:11 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 12:17 decafchicken wrote:
funkie if you're doing triples at the same as your daily 1RM then you're not going high enough on the 1 rep

Todays workouts
1x60 minute massage :D although i think my hips and shoulders would need a solid weeks worth of massage to get the kinks out



What was this like?

I've wanted a proper massage but thought that it would be awkward with a bloke and I'd get a boner with a woman. I assume you just get naked and lie down, otherwise they couldn't do glutes I guess.


Haha most massage therapist are women, especially if youre a guy you'll pretty much always get a girl unless you request a male. It's not that awkward, but yeah you get naked and get under the sheets, massage therapist comes in and turns on music and starts rubbing you down in oil and massaging out everything. It feels fucking awesome. As long as your mind doesnt drift too much you should be just like "wow this is awesome" and not even worried about popping an awkward boner. I havent gotten one, but i can imagine if i was like 17 just having a raging hardon rofl


On June 28 2012 23:43 extr3me wrote:
Show nested quote +
Steel ones cost about twice as much, I looked but couldn't afford.

25 minutes away on the train from me is a proper strongman gym, I only found out recently. I won't go to it for every workout because it's £30 a month or £5 a day, and another £5 for the train. My uni gym is 2 minutes away and cost £120 for the whole year. Still, I'll go probably twice a month.

It has a bunch of stuff like you said (farmers, yoke, frame, tyres, logs) and atlas stones up to 240kg! Apparently only two people have picked up the 240kg stone.

Only thing is their tyres are between 400-500kg. I'm not so sure if I can flip that, it sounds like a lot, but I've never flipped one before.


Yes its true the steel ones are not cheap, but I do know a guy who may will make it to me
If u want to train and became an strongman, you gotta workout as a strongman atleast once a week
Yea the atlas stones are sick :DD
To train with tyres, you have to take max reps in 1min it works for me pretty well, but it is so hard man

Damn, i just had 170kg as max in squat for a week ago.
Now I've tryed with belt, damn I did my main goal for this year 200kg :D
5x 100kg
5x 140kg
1x 170kg
1x 180kg
1x 200kg fuck yes! :DD


Jeez i gotta get my shit together before extreme starts smashing my PRs!! I've got to re-up my deadlift once i have time to recover (2 weeks perhaps?) and i'm pushing my back squat everyday. I smashed 198 and went for 202 twice but missed it real close both times :-/ Are you doing low bar or high bar?



how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 02:38:53
June 29 2012 02:37 GMT
#4858
^ fuck you.

Today's light workout:

Front Squat:
60kg, 90kg, 100kg, 105kg, 110kg, 115kg, 120kg, 130kg.
100kg, 110kg, 115kg, 120kg x 3
80kg x 2 x 5

Am I doing it right now? or still ?

Bench Press: 3 x 5 x 80kg (left shoulder is fucked )
chinup: 8-8-8

;p.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Luxae
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel232 Posts
June 29 2012 06:31 GMT
#4859
On June 29 2012 07:35 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 05:28 Luxae wrote:
On June 29 2012 01:24 GoTuNk! wrote:
On June 28 2012 15:04 Luxae wrote:
On June 28 2012 13:42 GoTuNk! wrote:
Getting ready for smolov. Purchased a foam roller, but the best fish oil pills I can find have 600 EPA+DHA. is it ok to get them and pop 5 pills a day? (Thats recomended dosage right?)


As someone who absolutely hates high volume, I'm always curious when people decide to run one of the extremely high volume programs. Are you running Smolov because you're stuck or trying to peak for a meet? I really can't imagine someone going through it just for the fun of it.


I need to gain weight and its just so time efficient its ridic. Last time was 20kg in 3 weeks and 4 days; if I can get 15kg I'll be damn happy now. Traditional power cycles deliver like 10kg every 8 weeks or something.

Did you end up retaining all/most of that gain following the cycle? I'm asking because the other Smolov related experiences all seemed to indicate a drop in the lift numbers after they peaked with the cycle.


I don't understand how the number would then drop.


The way I understood it is that Smolov tends to "peak" you for a certain time period, after which you get some sort of drop in your lift due to fatigue or the return to a much lower volume of training.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 29 2012 13:45 GMT
#4860
Well, 90% sure it's a dislocated rib now. Can't catch a break, these sports are going to kill my lifting progress this summer. Bench went well today though, steady progress towards 100kg 3x5!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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