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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
June 26 2012 19:36 GMT
#4801
whoo got BW + 2 plate (42kg with belt) chin-up today
Wasn't fully recovered from benching yesterday but I hadn't done a 1RM in a while so decided to go for it.
Next stop is 3 plates
Official Entusman #21
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20021 Posts
June 26 2012 20:22 GMT
#4802
On June 27 2012 01:54 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 20:33 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
I'm having some bad motivation in the gym lately. Today my 105kg squats were 5, 4, 2 (the last set I just didn't have it in me), although all of my other lifts progressed.

Ugh, squats. Why can't I ever make any progress on them? I feel like I would have to be 130kg in bodyweight to ever have a half decent squat.


100% agree. I've hit 120kg as a 1rm max, and I doubt I could do it again right now. My other lifts keep on truckin' - My squat is AWFUL.

My squat/front squat wasn't going anywhere for a while til I started squatting everyday and its gotten significantly better since then.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
June 26 2012 20:45 GMT
#4803
On June 27 2012 01:54 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 20:33 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
I'm having some bad motivation in the gym lately. Today my 105kg squats were 5, 4, 2 (the last set I just didn't have it in me), although all of my other lifts progressed.

Ugh, squats. Why can't I ever make any progress on them? I feel like I would have to be 130kg in bodyweight to ever have a half decent squat.


100% agree. I've hit 120kg as a 1rm max, and I doubt I could do it again right now. My other lifts keep on truckin' - My squat is AWFUL.

It's funny how people excel at different lifts. Mechanics? Body proportions?

I went from never squatting (weekend warrior athlete) to doing 300lbx2 in under 3 months. My deadlift however sucks. I surpassed my workout partner by like 40lb in squat but he deadlifts 30lb more than me.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
June 26 2012 22:06 GMT
#4804
On June 27 2012 05:45 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 01:54 phyre112 wrote:
On June 26 2012 20:33 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
I'm having some bad motivation in the gym lately. Today my 105kg squats were 5, 4, 2 (the last set I just didn't have it in me), although all of my other lifts progressed.

Ugh, squats. Why can't I ever make any progress on them? I feel like I would have to be 130kg in bodyweight to ever have a half decent squat.


100% agree. I've hit 120kg as a 1rm max, and I doubt I could do it again right now. My other lifts keep on truckin' - My squat is AWFUL.

It's funny how people excel at different lifts. Mechanics? Body proportions?

I went from never squatting (weekend warrior athlete) to doing 300lbx2 in under 3 months. My deadlift however sucks. I surpassed my workout partner by like 40lb in squat but he deadlifts 30lb more than me.

It's definitely weird. I'm not sure it's anatomy though. Personally, I get stuck with different exercises at different times and my anatomy doesn't change :p I got stuck with squats on like 105kg for months while my deadlift went up to 145kg. Now my deadlift has been stuck at 155/160kg for months while my squats have gone up to 137.5kg.
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Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 02:25:18
June 26 2012 22:51 GMT
#4805
On June 27 2012 04:19 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 02:39 Donkeys wrote:
Today's workout:
squat
5x 70kg
5x 85kg
2x5 100kg focusing on being fast

press
5x 33kg
5x 43kg
5x 48kg
5x 55kg

deadlift
5x 85kg
5x 100kg
5x 117kg
5x 132kg

3 second pause squats singles
100, 105, 108, 110, 113, 115, 118, failed 120. gg.

I've gained so much weight this year, ever since i did smolov back in the beginning of April i've gained 6kg. I'm not sure if it's more muscle or more fat I've also taken my squat max up from 120kg to 153kg and all my other lifts have gone up (except deadlift, i abandoned it for a while). Sometimes I look at myself in the mirror and i go "god damn I'm fat". I wasn't lean before but I didn't feel as fat. I'm sure I burned some fat during the base cycle of smolov, maybe I should try higher volume/intensity?Im 86kg and 1.69m.

Pic of fatness:
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86kg for 1.69 cm is a lot. Remember muscle comes with fat.
At your weight/height if you are remotely muscular now, you will look totally sick by cutting 4-6kg. I think a good cutting goal is to mantain your current strength, that way you keep most of your muscles.


How would you approach cutting? Lifting wise. I think I'll just drink less milk and cycle carbs.

uploaded my fat pic correctly now haha

BMR ~1950 cals. Thinking of eating that amount on workout days and around 1700 on rest days. idk how to do this lol.


http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 23:11:35
June 26 2012 23:10 GMT
#4806
I've always made better progress on squats and deadlifts. My squats and deadlifts always go up, never had a period where they've just stayed the same (since I stopped rowing and started doing weights properly).

I've had a few times where my bench and OHP have stopped increasing noticeably. More so bench, when I started 5/3/1 I don't think once a week was enough, I definitely would have benefit from more. But I needed to be on 5/3/1 for my squat and deadlift, I just wasn't there yet on the other two lifts.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20021 Posts
June 27 2012 00:19 GMT
#4807
blaaah body getting tired. good thing i'm lined up for a 60 min massage tomorrow :D
"Remove every knot in my upper back and surrounding my SI joint. Good luck"

Front squat - 275 295 315 335 355 365 375x then triples of 275 285 295 315 and 2x5 @ 185
Snatch - I have no idea but i snatched for over an hour and ended up hitting 125kg like a baws but missed 130 a couple times and called it a day.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 00:31:19
June 27 2012 00:30 GMT
#4808


0:19

holy vertical wow. olympic lifting gg
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 01:46:42
June 27 2012 01:46 GMT
#4809
Boevski looks sooooo damn stringy and like a normal man off the streets. Theres a video of him squatting like 250 or some insanity to rock bottom easily and he looks so plain in a little striped tee. Also see rezazadeh (strongest man in the world) doing the easiest 220 power clean + power jerk at 4:50. Damn.
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
June 27 2012 02:30 GMT
#4810
On June 27 2012 10:46 lyAsakura wrote:
Boevski looks sooooo damn stringy and like a normal man off the streets. Theres a video of him squatting like 250 or some insanity to rock bottom easily and he looks so plain in a little striped tee. Also see rezazadeh (strongest man in the world) doing the easiest 220 power clean + power jerk at 4:50. Damn.


when i see these pros lift really heavy weights i'm like wow i'll never lift that, but i didn't really feel that sense of holy shit these guys are strong until i saw them doing what i hope to do with ease.

seeing rezazadeh power clean 220 with pretty much no difficulty and dimas literally rolling 100kg up his shoulders was mindblowing, seeing as i struggle power cleaning 60kg
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
June 27 2012 03:47 GMT
#4811
On June 27 2012 05:22 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 01:54 phyre112 wrote:
On June 26 2012 20:33 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
I'm having some bad motivation in the gym lately. Today my 105kg squats were 5, 4, 2 (the last set I just didn't have it in me), although all of my other lifts progressed.

Ugh, squats. Why can't I ever make any progress on them? I feel like I would have to be 130kg in bodyweight to ever have a half decent squat.


100% agree. I've hit 120kg as a 1rm max, and I doubt I could do it again right now. My other lifts keep on truckin' - My squat is AWFUL.

My squat/front squat wasn't going anywhere for a while til I started squatting everyday and its gotten significantly better since then.


My deadlift sucks compared to my squat. Doesn't make sense me Squatting 150kg and deadlifting just 160-170kg.

Worry not!

Almost took a day off today, but I pulled it off! :D

60kg, 80kg, 90kg, 100kg, 110kg, 120kg
90kg, 100kg, 110kg, 120kg x 2 x 3
90kg x 2 x 5

Bench: 80kg x 3 x 5
PowerClean: 70kg x 2 x 4, 60kg x 3 x 5

My elbow hurts (I hit the door frame with it :X) and my left shoulder is bitching really hard on me, decided do to my reps slow, and work on form. Pretty nice I think.

gogo me.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 27 2012 06:34 GMT
#4812
On June 27 2012 11:30 shawster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 10:46 lyAsakura wrote:
Boevski looks sooooo damn stringy and like a normal man off the streets. Theres a video of him squatting like 250 or some insanity to rock bottom easily and he looks so plain in a little striped tee. Also see rezazadeh (strongest man in the world) doing the easiest 220 power clean + power jerk at 4:50. Damn.


when i see these pros lift really heavy weights i'm like wow i'll never lift that, but i didn't really feel that sense of holy shit these guys are strong until i saw them doing what i hope to do with ease.

seeing rezazadeh power clean 220 with pretty much no difficulty and dimas literally rolling 100kg up his shoulders was mindblowing, seeing as i struggle power cleaning 60kg

Their on roids. SO people like us don't have to feel too bad.
☺
Luxae
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel232 Posts
June 27 2012 07:40 GMT
#4813
On June 27 2012 07:51 Donkeys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 04:19 GoTuNk! wrote:
On June 27 2012 02:39 Donkeys wrote:
Today's workout:
squat
5x 70kg
5x 85kg
2x5 100kg focusing on being fast

press
5x 33kg
5x 43kg
5x 48kg
5x 55kg

deadlift
5x 85kg
5x 100kg
5x 117kg
5x 132kg

3 second pause squats singles
100, 105, 108, 110, 113, 115, 118, failed 120. gg.

I've gained so much weight this year, ever since i did smolov back in the beginning of April i've gained 6kg. I'm not sure if it's more muscle or more fat I've also taken my squat max up from 120kg to 153kg and all my other lifts have gone up (except deadlift, i abandoned it for a while). Sometimes I look at myself in the mirror and i go "god damn I'm fat". I wasn't lean before but I didn't feel as fat. I'm sure I burned some fat during the base cycle of smolov, maybe I should try higher volume/intensity?Im 86kg and 1.69m.

Pic of fatness:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


86kg for 1.69 cm is a lot. Remember muscle comes with fat.
At your weight/height if you are remotely muscular now, you will look totally sick by cutting 4-6kg. I think a good cutting goal is to mantain your current strength, that way you keep most of your muscles.


How would you approach cutting? Lifting wise. I think I'll just drink less milk and cycle carbs.

uploaded my fat pic correctly now haha

BMR ~1950 cals. Thinking of eating that amount on workout days and around 1700 on rest days. idk how to do this lol.




I'm not GoTuNk!, but I do have experience with having very similar body and lifting as you. I've found that Madcow seems to work best for me training wise. I don't get burned out, since the volume isn't too high, and I usually end up progressing well into the cuts on most of my lifts.
Jupiter
Profile Joined November 2009
Australia73 Posts
June 27 2012 10:31 GMT
#4814
On June 27 2012 07:51 Donkeys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2012 04:19 GoTuNk! wrote:
On June 27 2012 02:39 Donkeys wrote:
Today's workout:
squat
5x 70kg
5x 85kg
2x5 100kg focusing on being fast

press
5x 33kg
5x 43kg
5x 48kg
5x 55kg

deadlift
5x 85kg
5x 100kg
5x 117kg
5x 132kg

3 second pause squats singles
100, 105, 108, 110, 113, 115, 118, failed 120. gg.

I've gained so much weight this year, ever since i did smolov back in the beginning of April i've gained 6kg. I'm not sure if it's more muscle or more fat I've also taken my squat max up from 120kg to 153kg and all my other lifts have gone up (except deadlift, i abandoned it for a while). Sometimes I look at myself in the mirror and i go "god damn I'm fat". I wasn't lean before but I didn't feel as fat. I'm sure I burned some fat during the base cycle of smolov, maybe I should try higher volume/intensity?Im 86kg and 1.69m.

Pic of fatness:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


86kg for 1.69 cm is a lot. Remember muscle comes with fat.
At your weight/height if you are remotely muscular now, you will look totally sick by cutting 4-6kg. I think a good cutting goal is to mantain your current strength, that way you keep most of your muscles.


How would you approach cutting? Lifting wise. I think I'll just drink less milk and cycle carbs.

uploaded my fat pic correctly now haha

BMR ~1950 cals. Thinking of eating that amount on workout days and around 1700 on rest days. idk how to do this lol.





Hey Donkeys

I wrote posted this a little while ago. Thought it might help

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This website was really helpful - www.swole.me

and the 'myfitnesspal' app was very helpful as well.

I started there and figured out how many calories I would need to cut. Then sorted out a rough diet plan that gave me a 500 calorie deficit.

I'm a believer in IIFYM (if it fits your macros).

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IIFYM - If It Fits Your Macros

The phrase If It Fits Your Macros (often abbreviated to IIFYM) refers to meeting the individual macronutrient needs relevant to one’s goals and then filling the remaining calories with foods of personal preference. Meaning, eat whatever you want as long as it fits the macros. Don’t get it?

Since it’s more common to ask about IIFYM when following a fat loss plan, also known as cutting, we will use an example that relates to it.

Example:

200lb man at 20% body fat wants to lose weight
Maintenance Calories: 3000 (click the link to see how this is found)
Calories to cut: 2400 - this is a 20% caloric deficit
1.5g protein per lb/LBM: (1.5 * 160) 240g
0.45g fat per lb/BW: (200 * 0.45) 90g
Calories from fats + protein minimums: (240 * 4) + (90 * 9) = 1770
Calories from reaching minimums taken from calories to cut: (2400 - 1770) 630
He has 630 kcal left to fill with whatever foods he chooses (pancakes, pizza, cake, pop-tarts, ice cream) and still lose weight as a result of remaining in a calorie deficit.
How do I calculate my calories and macros?

Tips (some are general and do not specifically pertain to IIFYM):

Try to get most of your macros from whole foods. They are high in micronutrients needed to maintain overall health.
Tailor your meals to suit your individual preference. 6 meals a day is the same as 3 meals a day. There is no difference.
Timing your nutrients is not necessary. There is no universal macro or calorie breakdown you should be eating pre and/or post-workout. Overall micronutrient, macronutrient and calorie intake relevant to your goal(s) is far more important.
Important

What “eat whatever you want as long as it fits into your macros” means is basically, eat right, but don’t get all caught up in the whole ‘clean vs dirty’ food debate that seems to still go on. If you want to eat whole grain bread, oats, brown rice, etc. etc. Then do it. If you want to eat white bread, white rice, and pop tarts, as long as it fits in with your other macronutrients and your goals in terms of caloric intake then it isn’t going to make much of a difference in the long run. It all comes down to personal preference.

So, basically don’t get into the whole “If I have ice cream I’m going to get fat” or, “I’ll never have pizza again” mentality. If you want it, you can have it, just make sure it fits in with all the guidelines above.


My macros were roughly 45% protein 35% carbs 20% fat. Meal timing is irrelevant at the end of the day its calories in vs calories out. Some people like eating smaller meals throughout the day because it stops them feeling hungry. I was often having 3 meals or 2 meals a day.

This is a rough outline of what I have been eating the past few weeks (similar at the beginning of the cut but obviously just more food)

Meal 1
2 whole eggs
1 slice of bacon
1 slice of bread
lots of spinach

Meal 2
1 cup of cooked rice
Chicken (or tuna)
vegetables

Meal 3
1 cup of cooked rice (or pasta)
Chicken
vegetables

throughout the day
3 protein shakes with whole milk. -Shakes were more of a convenience thing. I get busy quite busy and it is easier for me to have a shake. the only problem was that it takes up quite a lot of calories having milk so less food but thats the trade off. The past few weeks Ive been having less than 100ml of milk per shake. It also helped me hit my macros.

So that I could keep on track. I ate the same thing almost every day. I had set meals so the flavour of the chicken and rice was different but its still the same calories and macros. At first its kind of boring but I found that I got used to eating very similar things all the time and it didn't really bother me.

The other reason why eating the same thing was really helpful. I got really organised and pre prepared most of my meals. I bought all my chicken for the week, cut it up to the right weight and put it in ziplock bags. Had all of them in the freezer so when I wanted to make a meal it was really easy.

Of course I got hungry during the cut but I found that as I got further into the cut it was something I got used to. Its just something you have to deal with. At the end of the day who cares. Yeah I was hungry when I was going to sleep but its not really a big deal. Once you start losing the weight and looking better you will be more motivated and its not really a problem being a little bit hungry.

I found delaying my breakfast and chewing gum helped with my hunger levels.

I weighed myself every monday morning and had a note section in my phone where I kept track of everything. The reason I didn't do it every day was as I said it doesn't really give an accurate reading because your weight can fluctuate. Once a week was better as it gives an overall picture. A few weeks goes by you can see if you are making any changes or not. If your weight is not going down. Eat less calories.

I had a 'cheat' meal once a week. But most of the time if I wanted to eat something outside of my diet I made allowances and fit it into my macros. So in a sense it wasn't really a cheat meal. If it was higher in calories though the consequence was eating less in the day so I might have been more hungry.

My workout routine was pretty much the same throughout. I pushed really hard in every exercise to maintain strength. The only thing I did change was volume. I found that I would get tired a lot quicker and a few exercises in I had less energy.

I lost 17.5kg this way and retained my strength fairly well. (obviously you are going to lose some strength when you lose close to 20kg. I expected that.) Next time I cut Im going to make sure I don't lose weight too fast. Right at the start of my cut I lost too much weight each week and would have lost some muscle.

Obviously this is just what worked for me. So take what you want from it. I tried to include everything I can remember but if you have any other questions Im happy to answer them.
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
June 27 2012 12:22 GMT
#4815
dont turn your speakers up too much for this (warning)


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Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
June 27 2012 16:34 GMT
#4816
@Luxae thanks man I'm in the middle of madcow right now, I'll continue with it and see how it goes.
@Jupiter I remember that exact post of yours but I couldn't find it haha thanks!
http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3811 Posts
June 27 2012 16:45 GMT
#4817
Changed my deadlift from overhand grip to mixed grip. It felt like cheating. I repeated my PR but it was much easier than usual. Now, can you imagine repeating your PR and then one of the instructors (should be between " ") of your gym says "wtf, you're resting the weight" right after you finish the 2nd rep? Fucking idiot (I'm saying this because of other stuff as well)
For the Swarm!
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
June 27 2012 20:04 GMT
#4818
95kg power clean today (3x3)
feeling pretty good!
think i'm gonna start a smolov base cycle next week. keeping the weights low though because i'm still on a cut!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
June 27 2012 20:14 GMT
#4819
On June 28 2012 01:45 Raidern wrote:
Changed my deadlift from overhand grip to mixed grip. It felt like cheating. I repeated my PR but it was much easier than usual. Now, can you imagine repeating your PR and then one of the instructors (should be between " ") of your gym says "wtf, you're resting the weight" right after you finish the 2nd rep? Fucking idiot (I'm saying this because of other stuff as well)


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Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
June 27 2012 20:24 GMT
#4820
On June 28 2012 01:45 Raidern wrote:
Changed my deadlift from overhand grip to mixed grip. It felt like cheating. I repeated my PR but it was much easier than usual. Now, can you imagine repeating your PR and then one of the instructors (should be between " ") of your gym says "wtf, you're resting the weight" right after you finish the 2nd rep? Fucking idiot (I'm saying this because of other stuff as well)

Mixed grip is awesome for heavier weights. For me, the bar slipped on 112.5kg (warm-ups) while using overhand grip tonight but the workset on 160kg with mixed grip (and chalk) had absolutely no slipping problems. It makes a world of difference. Add chalk to it and it will be even bigger improvement.

I'm feeling pretty fucking happy with my workout today. Deadlifted 160kg x 3 and the reps went up easily and cleanly. I didn't attempt the last two reps because my friend commented that my back was starting to bend a bit but I think I could have done if I wasn't being ultra-safe. I also squatted 137.5kg x 4 , 125kg x 5 and 112.5kg x 6 (which was my progression goal), so next session I'm doing three plates. All in all a good session for me
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