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On June 26 2013 19:52 mordek wrote:Definitely looks like hip flexors to me. If you don't foam roll yet I highly suggest it, it's super helpful. You probably have tightness in your quads, TFL, and IT etc. You need to get those muscles and fascia loose and supple and foam rolling is excellent for that. It's very common if you're squatting regularly and sit a lot. The hard work plus shortening of the hip flexors from being in a sitting position all day (I'm making an assumption here  ) = tight and painful muscle. I also get the tightness when benching. It's most likely just another tight muscle that when tensed during the bench, which is fine since you want tension throughout your body, is going to cramp up. I'm thinking its one of the glutes (medius?). It's probably a result of the all the tightness in the front of your thigh as well as your butt (gluteus maximus) being shut off from sitting all day. You can try remedying this with a similar approach as foam rolling but you'll probably get better results using a lacrosse ball or softball. Checkout mobilitywod.com for some stuff searching for those terms. Also check out http://www.endurancewod.com/_library/MobilityWOD - PSE Chapter.pdf which covers a lot of the areas you'd be interested in. If there's anything off in what I saw, someone point it out
A slightly related question. If the pain comes from rotating the hip and leg out from your body ie a side lunge or just turning the leg to point outwards, is it still the hip flexor? It's a bit above the groin area that hurts with this movement for me, aside from general tensening of the hip.
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Tiger Woods still has medial epicondylitis after months of rest.
If he does not solve this issue in the next three months this could become a career shortening injury.
He may have to once again go through a major alteration to his swing.
tendonitis can become an extremely difficult thing to deal with if it drags on for months.
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On July 13 2013 17:32 Shauni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 19:52 mordek wrote:Definitely looks like hip flexors to me. If you don't foam roll yet I highly suggest it, it's super helpful. You probably have tightness in your quads, TFL, and IT etc. You need to get those muscles and fascia loose and supple and foam rolling is excellent for that. It's very common if you're squatting regularly and sit a lot. The hard work plus shortening of the hip flexors from being in a sitting position all day (I'm making an assumption here ) = tight and painful muscle. I also get the tightness when benching. It's most likely just another tight muscle that when tensed during the bench, which is fine since you want tension throughout your body, is going to cramp up. I'm thinking its one of the glutes (medius?). It's probably a result of the all the tightness in the front of your thigh as well as your butt (gluteus maximus) being shut off from sitting all day. You can try remedying this with a similar approach as foam rolling but you'll probably get better results using a lacrosse ball or softball. Checkout mobilitywod.com for some stuff searching for those terms. Also check out http://www.endurancewod.com/_library/MobilityWOD - PSE Chapter.pdf which covers a lot of the areas you'd be interested in. If there's anything off in what I saw, someone point it out A slightly related question. If the pain comes from rotating the hip and leg out from your body ie a side lunge or just turning the leg to point outwards, is it still the hip flexor? It's a bit above the groin area that hurts with this movement for me, aside from general tensening of the hip.
Does sound like potentially hip flexor tendonitis or some other type of groin aggravation.
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On July 17 2013 00:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Tiger Woods still has medial epicondylitis after months of rest.
If he does not solve this issue in the next three months this could become a career shortening injury.
He may have to once again go through a major alteration to his swing.
tendonitis can become an extremely difficult thing to deal with if it drags on for months.
Uh, no, tendonitis is not like that.
See this article: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/08/on-tendonitis/
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On July 21 2013 14:17 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 17:32 Shauni wrote:On June 26 2013 19:52 mordek wrote:Definitely looks like hip flexors to me. If you don't foam roll yet I highly suggest it, it's super helpful. You probably have tightness in your quads, TFL, and IT etc. You need to get those muscles and fascia loose and supple and foam rolling is excellent for that. It's very common if you're squatting regularly and sit a lot. The hard work plus shortening of the hip flexors from being in a sitting position all day (I'm making an assumption here ) = tight and painful muscle. I also get the tightness when benching. It's most likely just another tight muscle that when tensed during the bench, which is fine since you want tension throughout your body, is going to cramp up. I'm thinking its one of the glutes (medius?). It's probably a result of the all the tightness in the front of your thigh as well as your butt (gluteus maximus) being shut off from sitting all day. You can try remedying this with a similar approach as foam rolling but you'll probably get better results using a lacrosse ball or softball. Checkout mobilitywod.com for some stuff searching for those terms. Also check out http://www.endurancewod.com/_library/MobilityWOD - PSE Chapter.pdf which covers a lot of the areas you'd be interested in. If there's anything off in what I saw, someone point it out A slightly related question. If the pain comes from rotating the hip and leg out from your body ie a side lunge or just turning the leg to point outwards, is it still the hip flexor? It's a bit above the groin area that hurts with this movement for me, aside from general tensening of the hip. Does sound like potentially hip flexor tendonitis or some other type of groin aggravation.
The "diagnosis" self test says that you should move your knee up to your chest, and by how painful it is determine the severeness of the hip flexor tendonitis, but it doesn't hurt at all. It only hurt when i contract my muscles in the hip or flex the hip outwards. It wasn't an overuse injury either, I strained it on a specific day and it's been exactly the same for about half a year now.
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On July 21 2013 18:41 Shauni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2013 14:17 eshlow wrote:On July 13 2013 17:32 Shauni wrote:On June 26 2013 19:52 mordek wrote:Definitely looks like hip flexors to me. If you don't foam roll yet I highly suggest it, it's super helpful. You probably have tightness in your quads, TFL, and IT etc. You need to get those muscles and fascia loose and supple and foam rolling is excellent for that. It's very common if you're squatting regularly and sit a lot. The hard work plus shortening of the hip flexors from being in a sitting position all day (I'm making an assumption here ) = tight and painful muscle. I also get the tightness when benching. It's most likely just another tight muscle that when tensed during the bench, which is fine since you want tension throughout your body, is going to cramp up. I'm thinking its one of the glutes (medius?). It's probably a result of the all the tightness in the front of your thigh as well as your butt (gluteus maximus) being shut off from sitting all day. You can try remedying this with a similar approach as foam rolling but you'll probably get better results using a lacrosse ball or softball. Checkout mobilitywod.com for some stuff searching for those terms. Also check out http://www.endurancewod.com/_library/MobilityWOD - PSE Chapter.pdf which covers a lot of the areas you'd be interested in. If there's anything off in what I saw, someone point it out A slightly related question. If the pain comes from rotating the hip and leg out from your body ie a side lunge or just turning the leg to point outwards, is it still the hip flexor? It's a bit above the groin area that hurts with this movement for me, aside from general tensening of the hip. Does sound like potentially hip flexor tendonitis or some other type of groin aggravation. The "diagnosis" self test says that you should move your knee up to your chest, and by how painful it is determine the severeness of the hip flexor tendonitis, but it doesn't hurt at all. It only hurt when i contract my muscles in the hip or flex the hip outwards. It wasn't an overuse injury either, I strained it on a specific day and it's been exactly the same for about half a year now.
If it doesn't get better within 2 weeks IMO you should've gone to see an orthopedic doctor and/or physical therapist.
Trying to figure things out by yourself is like beating your head against a wall trying to remove a migraine. Sometimes it works, most of the times it doesn't. but you don't have the expertise to figure it out on your own.
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quitting the activity for MAYBE 8 weeks tops. not to mention pro athletes are a) super athletic b) can re-hab full time and c) have unlimited resources. tendonosis can take longer but even that doesnt mean you have to 'quit' forever.
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Back in highschool, I was on the soccer team and ended up hurting my knee. Went to the hospital and she said keep ice on it for a bit and stay on crutches for a week, nothing serious happened. So i follow her advice, and eventually my knee gets better and i can start doing physical activities again a couple of months later.
3 Months ago now, I was playing ball hockey and ended up hurting the same knee again. This time I ended up going for an MRI and ended up getting these results:
-Complete ACL tear
-Medial and Lateral meniscal tears
-Osteochondral injury involving the lateral femoral condyle
Anyways I just wanted to share what happened to me, if anyone wants to throw in some thoughts or comments i'd love to hear it
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On July 23 2013 02:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2013 14:17 eshlow wrote:On July 17 2013 00:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Tiger Woods still has medial epicondylitis after months of rest.
If he does not solve this issue in the next three months this could become a career shortening injury.
He may have to once again go through a major alteration to his swing.
tendonitis can become an extremely difficult thing to deal with if it drags on for months. Uh, no, tendonitis is not like that. See this article: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/08/on-tendonitis/ "not like that" is too vague. be more specific. tendonitis ends careers of athletes and musicians because the "cure/treatment" involves quitting the activity that caused the injury. http://ezinearticles.com/?Why-is-Tendonitis-Such-a-Danger-For-Baseball-Pitchers?&id=2200652
says the person who doesn't know anything about physical rehabilitation
On July 23 2013 09:10 Jer99 wrote:
Back in highschool, I was on the soccer team and ended up hurting my knee. Went to the hospital and she said keep ice on it for a bit and stay on crutches for a week, nothing serious happened. So i follow her advice, and eventually my knee gets better and i can start doing physical activities again a couple of months later.
3 Months ago now, I was playing ball hockey and ended up hurting the same knee again. This time I ended up going for an MRI and ended up getting these results:
-Complete ACL tear
-Medial and Lateral meniscal tears
-Osteochondral injury involving the lateral femoral condyle
Anyways I just wanted to share what happened to me, if anyone wants to throw in some thoughts or comments i'd love to hear it
Get the surgery and get everything fixed up and then rehab and then get back to you sport.
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Recently recovered from cuboid syndrome in my right foot.
Only to injure myself again tonight while playing soccer. Not sure exactly what it is, but the front of my lower calf, right above the ankle, is in a lot of pain whenever I move it. It's very difficult to tilt my toes (and the rest of my foot) upward and to the sides. Pointing it downwards is relatively unimpaired. There's no swelling either, but putting any slight amount of pressure on the area creates a sharp pain.
Basically, I was running to get the ball, but my opponent got it before me. I tried to break suddenly, but I think I took a misstep in the process and my entire leg just collapsed on itself.
Anyone know what it might be? This is more or less a post out of curiosity instead of treatment, since I have it all wrapped up in ice for the time being and will go to the hospital tomorrow if need be.
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On July 23 2013 12:03 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 02:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On July 21 2013 14:17 eshlow wrote:On July 17 2013 00:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Tiger Woods still has medial epicondylitis after months of rest.
If he does not solve this issue in the next three months this could become a career shortening injury.
He may have to once again go through a major alteration to his swing.
tendonitis can become an extremely difficult thing to deal with if it drags on for months. Uh, no, tendonitis is not like that. See this article: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/08/on-tendonitis/ "not like that" is too vague. be more specific. tendonitis ends careers of athletes and musicians because the "cure/treatment" involves quitting the activity that caused the injury. http://ezinearticles.com/?Why-is-Tendonitis-Such-a-Danger-For-Baseball-Pitchers?&id=2200652 says the person who doesn't know anything about physical rehabilitation
the cure for tendonitis caused by throwing the slider.
is to stop throwing the slider.
if you go back weeks or months later after complete physical rehab and strength training and the pain arises again from throwing the slider.
the doc will say "quit throwing the slider" and explain how the forces exerted in your medial epicondyle are too great.
tendons are structures of limited strength and can not endure every conceivable body movement possible.
which is why micro tears occur in the tendon to begin with.
hundreds of pitchers have been told by their doctors to stop throwing the slider.
and if its the pitch they live on ... it costs them their careers.
example: dave stieb.
the healing process in a tendon is slow relative to other body parts due to its lack of circulation.
their is much more circulation in a muscle than a tendon.
circulation is required for the healing process.
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And that's why professional athletes have doctors, physical therapists, and other rehabilaition specialists on staff now.
It's up to the athlete if they want to push through the pain and shorten their career.
If they do the rehab and get it fixed and correctly work up to it they can do the same things that they were previously able to do again
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On July 23 2013 15:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 12:03 eshlow wrote:On July 23 2013 02:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On July 21 2013 14:17 eshlow wrote:On July 17 2013 00:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Tiger Woods still has medial epicondylitis after months of rest.
If he does not solve this issue in the next three months this could become a career shortening injury.
He may have to once again go through a major alteration to his swing.
tendonitis can become an extremely difficult thing to deal with if it drags on for months. Uh, no, tendonitis is not like that. See this article: http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/08/on-tendonitis/ "not like that" is too vague. be more specific. tendonitis ends careers of athletes and musicians because the "cure/treatment" involves quitting the activity that caused the injury. http://ezinearticles.com/?Why-is-Tendonitis-Such-a-Danger-For-Baseball-Pitchers?&id=2200652 says the person who doesn't know anything about physical rehabilitation the cure for tendonitis caused by throwing the slider. is to stop throwing the slider. if you go back weeks or months later after complete physical rehab and strength training and the pain arises again from throwing the slider. the doc will say "quit throwing the slider" and explain how the forces exerted in your medial epicondyle are too great. tendons are structures of limited strength and can not endure every conceivable body movement possible. which is why micro tears occur in the tendon to begin with. hundreds of pitchers have been told by their doctors to stop throwing the slider. and if its the pitch they live on ... it costs them their careers. example: dave stieb. the healing process in a tendon is slow relative to other body parts due to its lack of circulation. their is much more circulation in a muscle than a tendon. circulation is required for the healing process.
How did you get from tiger woods to professional pitchers? Throwing sliders is a million times more brutal on your shoulder/elbow than golfing rofl. But again, if you're not throwing yourself into the ground and take proper precuations there's no reason not to have a healthy pitching career barring incident. The best pitchers in the game are noted for their rigorous off season work that prepares their body to handle the regular season.
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On July 24 2013 00:25 eshlow wrote:
And that's why professional athletes have doctors, physical therapists, and other rehabilaition specialists on staff now.
It's up to the athlete if they want to push through the pain and shorten their career.
If they do the rehab and get it fixed and correctly work up to it they can do the same things that they were previously able to do again
after all the back and forth you are now acknowledging the original point.
On July 17 2013 00:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
If he does not solve this issue in the next three months this could become a career shortening injury.
waste of time.
just for the record tendonitis also ends the careers of pro gamers and musicians.
as you age tendon flexibility diminishes.
the killer for tendonitis is repitition.
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On July 24 2013 03:13 lamprey1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 00:25 eshlow wrote:
And that's why professional athletes have doctors, physical therapists, and other rehabilaition specialists on staff now.
It's up to the athlete if they want to push through the pain and shorten their career.
If they do the rehab and get it fixed and correctly work up to it they can do the same things that they were previously able to do again after all the back and forth you are now acknowledging the original point. Show nested quote +On July 17 2013 00:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
If he does not solve this issue in the next three months this could become a career shortening injury.
waste of time. just for the record tendonitis also ends the careers of pro gamers and musicians. as you age tendon flexibility diminishes. the killer for tendonitis is repitition.
wtf are you talking about.
If they don't push through the pain, and get it rehabbed then their career won't be shortened at all
It's when they push through the pain constantly that it devolves potentially into something worse... which may or may not shorten a career after it gets fixed.
It if does end up shortening a career its most likely because the athlete was on the downside of their career and coming back isn't worth the time and effort, or they weren't that good in the first place so it makes no sense to continue. the best will almost always come back as the best if they rehab properly
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dozens of studies indicate steroid use weakens collagen.
this causes tendon issues.
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On July 24 2013 08:39 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 03:13 lamprey1 wrote:On July 24 2013 00:25 eshlow wrote:
And that's why professional athletes have doctors, physical therapists, and other rehabilaition specialists on staff now.
It's up to the athlete if they want to push through the pain and shorten their career.
If they do the rehab and get it fixed and correctly work up to it they can do the same things that they were previously able to do again after all the back and forth you are now acknowledging the original point. On July 17 2013 00:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
If he does not solve this issue in the next three months this could become a career shortening injury.
waste of time. just for the record tendonitis also ends the careers of pro gamers and musicians. as you age tendon flexibility diminishes. the killer for tendonitis is repitition. wtf are you talking about. If they don't push through the pain, and get it rehabbed then their career won't be shortened at all It's when they push through the pain constantly that it devolves potentially into something worse... which may or may not shorten a career after it gets fixed. It if does end up shortening a career its most likely because the athlete was on the downside of their career and coming back isn't worth the time and effort, or they weren't that good in the first place so it makes no sense to continue. the best will almost always come back as the best if they rehab properly
you guys already agree. tendon injuries, improperly dealt will shorten careers. if tiger remains on large doses of anti-inflammatories he is risking his long term health.
also,
tendons get less flexible due to age and steroid use.
many studies indicate steroid use weakens collagen.
and "pushing through the pain" is what Tiger Woods is doing. He is on anti-inflammatories.
Anti-inflammatories do not strengthen colllagen.
steroid abuse harms you in many ways including decreasing tendon flexibility and shortening your career.
problem is you started off saying the guy "knew nothing".
this is a forum board. you do not know what i know and dont know.
stick to the info at hand rather than personal attacks.
the big team of therapists and doctors around does not guarantee proper treatment. many athletes mismanage their injuries despite getting great advice from very smart experienced medical staff. off the top of my head i can list 10 such situations where the athlete ignored sound medical advice putting his career in jeopardy.
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Hey guys,
I've got a shoulder injury from lifting weights. When I was doing dumbell presses the dumbell moved backwards too far and pulled my arm back with it, so rotator cuff injury. It's been three weeks now and still hasn't healed. Every day I've been applying a hot pack to my shoulder for 30 minutes and doing elastic band exercises to strengthen it. Is this normal? Should I be expecting it to take another few weeks to heal?
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On July 24 2013 09:48 Callandor wrote:
Hey guys,
I've got a shoulder injury from lifting weights. When I was doing dumbell presses the dumbell moved backwards too far and pulled my arm back with it, so rotator cuff injury. It's been three weeks now and still hasn't healed. Every day I've been applying a hot pack to my shoulder for 30 minutes and doing elastic band exercises to strengthen it. Is this normal? Should I be expecting it to take another few weeks to heal?
If you have an injury and it hasn't improved significantly in 2 weeks then see an orthopedic doctor.
IF you want a guess then fill out the form in the OP.
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