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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
June 14 2013 14:28 GMT
#921
http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm?topic=a00147

how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10829 Posts
June 14 2013 17:27 GMT
#922
my guesses:

achilles tendonitis (inflamation of the achilles tendon)
achilles enthesitis (inflammation of the insertion of the achilles tendon into the calcaneus)
retrocalcaneal bursitis (inflammation of the bursa deep to the achilles tendon)

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decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
June 14 2013 18:11 GMT
#923
It's really hard to say what it is, but I think it's always a good idea to attack the tissue and muscles surrounding the problem area. I suggest getting something like a lacrosse or tennis ball and jam it into your calf, the anterior muscles of your tibia and the palm of your foot (stand on it). If you look up kelly starrett on youtube you'll know what exactly to do, he has some good calf smashes. If you find a tight area (you'll know when it hurts like fuck) give it some tennis ball love for a couple of minutes.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 15 2013 15:53 GMT
#924
My guesses would be similar to LosingID8... but it could be something to do with the joint as well.

You can try stuff from the tendonitis protocol if you wish:

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/08/on-tendonitis/

I might also try some band distraction of the talus and/or some specific mobilizations as well.

What were the previous injuries?
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 16 2013 02:09 GMT
#925
Thx all.

Previous injuries were:

1) When I was about 16-18 I rolled the wrong way in a leglock, and hurt my ankle. It wasnt broken tho as far as I can remember. Was from one of these: http://www.lockflow.com/grappling-technique/combat-sambo-reverse-rolling-toe-hold

2) Playing football, goalie, jumped at a high shot, landed sideways on my foot and sprained it. I cant remember which leg it was tho, but seems likely it would be the left.

I'll google band distraction o.O
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 16 2013 15:41 GMT
#926
On June 16 2013 11:09 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Thx all.

Previous injuries were:

1) When I was about 16-18 I rolled the wrong way in a leglock, and hurt my ankle. It wasnt broken tho as far as I can remember. Was from one of these: http://www.lockflow.com/grappling-technique/combat-sambo-reverse-rolling-toe-hold

2) Playing football, goalie, jumped at a high shot, landed sideways on my foot and sprained it. I cant remember which leg it was tho, but seems likely it would be the left.

I'll google band distraction o.O


Yeah, multiple sprains might be talus jammed up in the mortise a bunch. I'd guess some of the ankle distraction mobilizations would help a lot.

If you know of any physiotherapists who can perform some anterior and posterior glides of your talus that would probably help out significantly too. Maybe grade V mobilization to free up the joint space
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
June 17 2013 16:20 GMT
#927
If i didn't know any better you could have been talking about astrophysics there for all the sense it made to me lol
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 01:01:46
June 24 2013 23:16 GMT
#928
Hi :3, so this isn't an injury per se (hopefully) but since the past week Ive been having a small pain on my quadriceps when I do squats (even without the bar), just like to check if its normal or I should worrry about it. The pain is located on the blue spots:
[image loading]

On a scale from 1 to 10 ill rank it as a 2.. maybe a 4 at worst. It only happens when im reaching/leaving paralell and it disappears or goes to a "1" / its barely noticeable.

The other issue I have, which I find weird, is that when im doing Bench Press I sometimes get a strain-like pain on the left side of my leg (orange spot in the picture), no idea why this happen but if I just extend my left leg it goes away inmediately, it doesnt happen during all the reps but it is there. Its nonexistant on any other excersises / rest of the day.

Any ideas or tips?
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zar11
Profile Joined September 2012
United States26 Posts
June 26 2013 06:51 GMT
#929
Hey there, I have a somewhat similar issue to the post above me, but the pain has progressed to the point where I'm afraid of it becoming a more serious issue. It started about 1 month ago when I was doing heavy squats, and I could feel lots of pressure in the upper thigh/hip flexor area when coming up from the squatting position. More details in spoiler. And thanks in advance!

+ Show Spoiler +

1. Google a pic and mark where it hurts.
[image loading]

Blue circled area felt very tight after doing squats, and occasionally has dull pain throughout the day. Gold circled areas only hurt when doing weighted squats or certain stretches

2. What exercises hurt?
Doing any kind of weighted squats. Bodyweight and squats with the bar or very low weight don't aggravate it, but once I get up to about 40-50kg it starts giving me pain in the gold marked area.

Also, if I lay on my back and bring my knee to my chest it gives me some discomfort. Probably the worst pain is if I try to do a lying leg cross body stretch (not sure the proper name)

3. What type of pain is it? Burning? Ache? Tingling? Sharp?
Blue area is occasional dull aching pain. Gold area is more sharp pain/ extreme tightness.

4. What would you rate the pain at on a 0/10 scale? 0 being no pain, 10 being go to the emergency room.
When not doing exercises, usually a 0 or 1. When doing squats around a 4. When doing the previously mentioned stretches, around a 5.

5. Acute or chronic (chronic more than ~6-8 weeks)? What date was onset? How has the pain improved since the initial injury?

I guess still acute (been about a month). My mobility has improved some, but the pain hasn't improved much since then.

6. Have you been training through pain? If so, how long?

I stopped doing heavy squats after I started feeling this pain. I've still been doing some light jogging, lunges, deadlifts and leg press. None of these caused pain during the exercise, but often the problem areas (and my hips in general) feel achy or sore the few days following a workout.

7. How deep is the pain? Is it more superficial tissues? Or does it seem to be more inside or around the joint? Describe it.

Difficult to say.. it seems to be around the joints rather than in them. But it does feel somewhat deep in that it doesn't feel like its directly under the skin's surface.

8. What have you been doing for recovery purposes?

The week after it started bothering me I applied RICE techniques

I've been doing lots of samson stretches, couch stretches, butterflies, and just all around body stretching. None of these stretches hurt, but I do feel some tightness in the area. Also, for the past few days been trying massaging the area with a tennis ball to loosen it up.

9. What seems to help? What seems to make it worse? Is it constant? Does it increase/decrease with certain activities?

I'm not sure if anything is helping yet, other than when iced the pain seems to subside. Pain sometimes increases a few hours or the next day after exercising/doing hiking etc.

10. Check the tissue quality of the surrounding muscles. Which ones are tight? Which ones are tender? Is there any swelling?

I think my hip muscles aren't that flexible in general, but nothing seems out of the ordinary with the surrounding muscles/tissue. No swelling or bruising.

11. How does it feel after exercise (if any)? How does it feel at the beginning of the day? How about the end of the day?

Already talked about after exercise, and no significant differences throughout the day

12. Any previous injury history?

A few (3ish) years ago I had some knee joint instability on my left side which was due to weakness in the muscles that support the joint. This hasn't been an issue for a while since I started working out and strengthening my leg muscles.

13. How's your posture?

Good, thanks for asking

14. What is your current workout routine for that bodypart? Do you play any sports?

Before injuring it, I was doing starting strength, so I was doing squats and deadlifts exclusively for legs

15. Any other information I should be aware of or that comes to mind that may help?

Not that I can think of, other than I'm currently studying abroad so I won't really have access to a good physical therapist or anything like that for about 2 months.



Footymd
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada105 Posts
June 26 2013 08:14 GMT
#930
On June 25 2013 08:16 skindzer wrote:
Hi :3, so this isn't an injury per se (hopefully) but since the past week Ive been having a small pain on my quadriceps when I do squats (even without the bar), just like to check if its normal or I should worrry about it. The pain is located on the blue spots:
[image loading]

On a scale from 1 to 10 ill rank it as a 2.. maybe a 4 at worst. It only happens when im reaching/leaving paralell and it disappears or goes to a "1" / its barely noticeable.

The other issue I have, which I find weird, is that when im doing Bench Press I sometimes get a strain-like pain on the left side of my leg (orange spot in the picture), no idea why this happen but if I just extend my left leg it goes away inmediately, it doesnt happen during all the reps but it is there. Its nonexistant on any other excersises / rest of the day.

Any ideas or tips?



Hi!

Is the pain only when you do the squat motion, if you stand and bring your leg to a 90 degree angle does it hurt? if so it might be your hip flexor that is actually the cause. The hip flexor is a jerk and takes for ever to recover.

As far as the benchpress, do you notice if you lift or tense your legs as you lift? since that muscle may already be aggravated and just tensing it is causing the pain.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 10:53:14
June 26 2013 10:52 GMT
#931
Definitely looks like hip flexors to me. If you don't foam roll yet I highly suggest it, it's super helpful. You probably have tightness in your quads, TFL, and IT etc. You need to get those muscles and fascia loose and supple and foam rolling is excellent for that. It's very common if you're squatting regularly and sit a lot. The hard work plus shortening of the hip flexors from being in a sitting position all day (I'm making an assumption here ) = tight and painful muscle.

I also get the tightness when benching. It's most likely just another tight muscle that when tensed during the bench, which is fine since you want tension throughout your body, is going to cramp up. I'm thinking its one of the glutes (medius?). It's probably a result of the all the tightness in the front of your thigh as well as your butt (gluteus maximus) being shut off from sitting all day. You can try remedying this with a similar approach as foam rolling but you'll probably get better results using a lacrosse ball or softball. Checkout mobilitywod.com for some stuff searching for those terms. Also check out http://www.endurancewod.com/_library/MobilityWOD - PSE Chapter.pdf which covers a lot of the areas you'd be interested in.

If there's anything off in what I saw, someone point it out
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skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
June 26 2013 17:27 GMT
#932
Woah, thanks a lot, yeah after checking pictures I think its definitely my hip flexors, unfortunately I have no idea where I can find a foam roll, tried googling for some around here but couldnt find any. Will try stretching more and doing those ball massages. Can I continue working out or should I take a week off / deload?
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 26 2013 17:50 GMT
#933
If the movement is painful probably best to rest a little bit. If it isn't should be fine if you're still working on regaining mobility in the problem areas. If heavy weights bother it try to do light weights to keep the muscles moving and blood flowing to the area.

For a foam roller there are guides on how to make your own with pvc pipe and foam(?) somewhere on the internet.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 26 2013 20:20 GMT
#934
For people getting hip flexor and groin pain/strain:

Foam roll your abductors (gluteus medius, minimus, maximus)

Work on your hip internal range of motion (active seated rotate your feet out to the side) and do a hip internal rotation stretch. Stretch external rotation if you need to too but most people will have severe IR deficits
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ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
June 29 2013 17:09 GMT
#935
Managed to dislocate my shoulder a week ago. That was fun. I don't think I'm going to be doing any pullups for a while. Anyone have any good recommendations for bodyweight exercises that don't involve your shoulders?
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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 29 2013 17:12 GMT
#936
On June 30 2013 02:09 ghost_403 wrote:
Managed to dislocate my shoulder a week ago. That was fun. I don't think I'm going to be doing any pullups for a while. Anyone have any good recommendations for bodyweight exercises that don't involve your shoulders?


... well, there's legs, core, and one arm exercises.

Not much you can do with your upper body without a shoulder.
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Nyarly
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1030 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 16:41:00
July 10 2013 18:34 GMT
#937
My nerves used to hurt a bit, i went to see a doctor who told me it was because of a bad position but nothing to worry.
Recently, it started to hurt every night on the computer even though i have wrist pads on both hands.

Since this morning, the nerves in my both arms hurt and it's getting worse and worse.
I'm working 8 hours a day on the computer (game tester) and spending another 4 hours at home playing or typing.

I will have to get back to work tomorrow but i heard you shouldn't force it when nerves hurt.

Questions :
What do i do right now to stop the pain ? (i'm planning to see another doctor as soon as i can)
Should i keep working tomorrow and if not, how can i tell that i shouldn't work if i haven't got a note from a doctor ?
Can it be bad like carpal tunnel syndrom ? my wrists and elbow hurt, along with some fingers and the palm of my left hand.

Thank you for any answer, i've been worried about this for months but it wasn't hurting all day long before. Now i'm really worried..

Edit :
Well, i saw a doctor, gave me drugs and one day leave. I have two tendinitis on both arms and I will have to see an ergonomist..
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 11 2013 07:12 GMT
#938
On July 11 2013 03:34 Nyarly wrote:
My nerves used to hurt a bit, i went to see a doctor who told me it was because of a bad position but nothing to worry.
Recently, it started to hurt every night on the computer even though i have wrist pads on both hands.

Since this morning, the nerves in my both arms hurt and it's getting worse and worse.
I'm working 8 hours a day on the computer (game tester) and spending another 4 hours at home playing or typing.

I will have to get back to work tomorrow but i heard you shouldn't force it when nerves hurt.

Questions :
What do i do right now to stop the pain ? (i'm planning to see another doctor as soon as i can)
Should i keep working tomorrow and if not, how can i tell that i shouldn't work if i haven't got a note from a doctor ?
Can it be bad like carpal tunnel syndrom ? my wrists and elbow hurt, along with some fingers and the palm of my left hand.

Thank you for any answer, i've been worried about this for months but it wasn't hurting all day long before. Now i'm really worried..


Answer the questions in the OP if you want a guess.

Otherwise see an ORTHOPEDIC doctor... regular doctor won't know anything. Or a physical therapist.

Those two people you want to see... no one else.
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 14:25:42
July 11 2013 14:24 GMT
#939
Eshlow halp

Tweaked my right teres minor (as diagnosed by my roommate who's a chiro). I never have problems with it when I snatch but it usually feels a bit tight in the front rack position or at the lockout of a jerk (been like this for a while, usually just stretch or foam roll it a bit). I was locking out a jerk (only ~70% 1rm) and i felt a twinge and a shooting pain. I obviously stopped at that point. Nationals is in two weeks, what should i do for optimal recovery/performance by then?

My left supraspinitus is also a bit tweaked, I was driving and just had my elbow on the window ledge for probably an hour or two and then moved it too suddenly and felt a bit of pain. It's not too bad and i dont think it will hinder my performace much but i'd like to rehab it as well.

Also i have a rugby tournament next weekend LOL my body hates me.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 12 2013 07:32 GMT
#940
On July 11 2013 23:24 decafchicken wrote:
Eshlow halp

Tweaked my right teres minor (as diagnosed by my roommate who's a chiro). I never have problems with it when I snatch but it usually feels a bit tight in the front rack position or at the lockout of a jerk (been like this for a while, usually just stretch or foam roll it a bit). I was locking out a jerk (only ~70% 1rm) and i felt a twinge and a shooting pain. I obviously stopped at that point. Nationals is in two weeks, what should i do for optimal recovery/performance by then?

My left supraspinitus is also a bit tweaked, I was driving and just had my elbow on the window ledge for probably an hour or two and then moved it too suddenly and felt a bit of pain. It's not too bad and i dont think it will hinder my performace much but i'd like to rehab it as well.

Also i have a rugby tournament next weekend LOL my body hates me.


Lots and lots of non-painful mobility work + potentially light soft tissue work depending on how bad it is... like foam rolling I would say is on the very edge of something that may be too much
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