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I skimmed through some of the given advice in this thread and want to clear up the "bulking up" misconception (read it a few times). Here's a perfect example:
On October 25 2011 03:12 glurio wrote:
you need to eat more. a lot more, if you wanna grow.
all depends on your goals, you must be a twig with those stats. so i'd say stop swimming, lift heavy ass weights and eat like a pig. that is if you wanna get bigger.
This post is dead wrong. First, yeah you can get big (fat?) by eating food like a pig, but I don't think this is anyone's goal in here as bodybuilding is about a healthy lifestyle (in our generation it is about the sacred bench press, it seems to me). Second, swimming is one of the best forms of workout since it trains almost your entire body. It is questionable if lifting more "heavy ass weights" will do him any better.
For everyone seeking bulletproof advice, please visit the following website:
http://scoobysworkshop.com/
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No clue to who i answered with that post, but since i used "twig" hes probably grossly underweight.
I was too for the longest time. (179cm 64kg was my starting weight) So from experience i can tell that if you're that underweight you first need to learn how to eat. While it may be true he will put on more bodyfat with the "eat-like-a-pig" method, it's much easier, especially for beginners, to eat like that, than to do a proper clean bulk.
He will get results quicker, will look better earlier. (Yes, a little fat around your muscles is much better than to be skinny.)
If you would get big from swimming, bodybuilders would swim. Of course swimming is healthy, but it wastes calories which he needs to build some size.
And come one, most people here cite studies or people like layne norton, martin berkham. While scooby is a funny old dude, there are much better qualified people to take advice from.
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On November 23 2011 09:50 AirbladeOrange wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2011 07:58 Lorken wrote:On November 23 2011 05:16 Butcherski wrote:
Any tips for someone who wants to start running/jogging ? Im a complete newbie in that regard but i have a high energy labrador to take care off and i might as well run with him instead of doing 30-40 min fast-paced walks like i do currently.
When I started running (few months back) I could hardly do 15 minutes straight, I like going barefoot on a rugby field or something. What I did was: 15 mins run(most I could do), don't overexert yourself on the first day, do about 15-20 minutes 25 min second day 35 min third day 45 min fourth day My ankle was really sore by now so I had to stop for about a week. Picked up at 40 min Break 50 min Break 60 min I was doing it stupidly without breaks so if you take a day's break between the runs you should be fine. I blame the Motivation Thread for getting me super motivated and wanting to push myself to the limit every time  Also, I tried the Couch to 5K thing but I found this to be much easier to reach my 1 hour goal
TL;DR: Start off with however much you can run comfortably + 5 more minutes then increase that by 10 minutes every other day with one day break in between runs.Remember to push yourself (the feeling you get at the end is very worth it), have a goal you want to work towards and don't eat food (especially noodles) 1-2 hours before your run (Makes you feel like shit for the entire run). Most importantly: have fun! Do not do this. Increasing your time spent running that much will most likely get you injured. Start off very slowly and for less time than you are capable of. Play it very safe until your body gets used to it. Do not increase more than 5 miles per week and you should probably be staying at the same amount of time spent running for 2 or more weeks. I advise you to head over to the running thread for further advice and answers to questions that you have. Also, feel free to PM me.
Woops, sorry if that was bad advice  it's just what worked for me so I thought I'd mention it.
My question:
Snacking on sunflower seeds, almonds, cashews, peanuts, etc. is that good for you? I usually grab a few handfuls and watch TV or play some games munching on them. I have them either raw or roasted without any extra salt/oil added to it.
On November 24 2011 07:13 glurio wrote:
No clue to who i answered with that post, but since i used "twig" hes probably grossly underweight.
I was too for the longest time. (179cm 64kg was my starting weight)
Shit is that underweight? I'm 179 and 66 kg when I last checked. I thought it was normal since all of my friends are around the 60-70 kg range as well being similar heights.
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I remember reading everything about Scooby a few months back for an hour or 2 and he was full of shit, don't remember why though and don't feel like re-reading his garbage.
I'm siding with glurio on this one, he's been giving solid advice for a long time now. <3
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Why are people using the term underweight? The people who gave me physical fitness tests in school told me that I was underweight even after I beat almost everyone at every event (including strength ones) we participated in. At least to me there is a connotation of there being something wrong with your current weight which I don't think can be said unless you know more details about someone. If you want to get as strong as you can possibly be then sure a 5.5 foot ,140 pound dude should probably bulk up but saying they are underweight is a big pet peeve of mine. We are all unique snowflakes.
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179/64 is far from grossly underweight. Why do you believe he will get results quicker if he's fatter? This is madness. If anything, it limits him from doing certain excercises like the pull up because of his increased body weight. Don't get me wrong, a lot of training requires you to eat much because your system will need the energy, but it is not an excuse for bad eating habbits.
Swimming will help building muscles ("getting big") to your whole body, as stated before. However, it is not a substitute for weight lifting but considered good cardio. Professional bodybuilders dont't do much cardio because they already lose lots of calories through excessive weight lifting. The average person on this forum does not. They need to do cardio if they want to put definition to their muscles.
And by the way, what is wrong about Scooby? Respect your elders.
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Most of Scooby's general principles are good and most of what he says is ok. There is some misinformation though, probably stuff he's picked up over the years which has now been proven wrong. You could say he's slightly outdated.
I actually watch his videos from time to time, not so much to learn but because I like him.
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If you look at it with a bodybuilding/muscle building context, which i obviously do, 179/64 is grossly underweight.
And theres no need to do cardio to get definition, just have a good diet.
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On November 24 2011 08:34 joehsen wrote:
179/64 is far from grossly underweight. Why do you believe he will get results quicker if he's fatter? This is madness. If anything, it limits him from doing certain excercises like the pull up because of his increased body weight. Don't get me wrong, a lot of training requires you to eat much because your system will need the energy, but it is not an excuse for bad eating habbits.
Swimming will help building muscles ("getting big") to your whole body, as stated before. However, it is not a substitute for weight lifting but considered good cardio. Professional bodybuilders dont't do much cardio because they already lose lots of calories through excessive weight lifting. The average person on this forum does not. They need to do cardio if they want to put definition to their muscles.
And by the way, what is wrong about Scooby? Respect your elders.
I believe he was referring to my original post. My stats are 198 cm / 70-71 kgs right now. I've gained about a kilo in the last month and improved a lot of my exercises (e.g. I began swimming 1 km x3 times a week, whereas now I swim 2 km x3). Haven't had a lot of visual improvements though. I guess that takes a lot more time than a few months, I dunno. =)
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On November 25 2011 03:51 Alick wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 08:34 joehsen wrote:
179/64 is far from grossly underweight. Why do you believe he will get results quicker if he's fatter? This is madness. If anything, it limits him from doing certain excercises like the pull up because of his increased body weight. Don't get me wrong, a lot of training requires you to eat much because your system will need the energy, but it is not an excuse for bad eating habbits.
Swimming will help building muscles ("getting big") to your whole body, as stated before. However, it is not a substitute for weight lifting but considered good cardio. Professional bodybuilders dont't do much cardio because they already lose lots of calories through excessive weight lifting. The average person on this forum does not. They need to do cardio if they want to put definition to their muscles.
And by the way, what is wrong about Scooby? Respect your elders. I believe he was referring to my original post. My stats are 198 cm / 70-71 kgs right now. I've gained about a kilo in the last month and improved a lot of my exercises (e.g. I began swimming 1 km x3 times a week, whereas now I swim 2 km x3). Haven't had a lot of visual improvements though. I guess that takes a lot more time than a few months, I dunno. =)
Nice! I got to 2km swim too last week. I only have time to go once a week though
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Like other people are saying - glurio wasn't what I would call "grossly" underweight, but to be that size with no muscle is still a small dude. I started out at 6'3 135 lbs (193 cm 60kg) and THAT is what I would consider grossly underweight - but I gained 20 pounds in my first two months lifting, without even paying attention to my diet.
The difference that adding even a few pounds makes in lifting is amazing though - for someone starting out who wants to squeeze out their maximum advantage, I would say you absolutely shouldn't worry about gaining a bit of fat, the results in the long run are more than worth it.
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Hey I started starting strength almost 2 years ago, and now I am 5'7' @ 150lb from 130lb. I wasn't really focused on a specific diet during that time, but now that I'm considering to lose some fat (my goal is 8-10% bf), I'm kind of lost as to where I should begin. Of course, diet is the main part and I would like some opinions on the best way to reach my goals by summertime. In addition, I'd like to know how I should adjust my weight training with such diet for the best results. Thanks
btw, my weight doesn't seem much due to the fact that I'm asian and there's not much bone mass in my body.
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On November 24 2011 08:26 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Why are people using the term underweight? The people who gave me physical fitness tests in school told me that I was underweight even after I beat almost everyone at every event (including strength ones) we participated in. At least to me there is a connotation of there being something wrong with your current weight which I don't think can be said unless you know more details about someone. If you want to get as strong as you can possibly be then sure a 5.5 foot ,140 pound dude should probably bulk up but saying they are underweight is a big pet peeve of mine. We are all unique snowflakes.
Don't go by anything you hear in school. According to my school i would be borderline obese based on my size, even though i'm quite fit and healthy.
On November 25 2011 03:51 Alick wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2011 08:34 joehsen wrote:
179/64 is far from grossly underweight. Why do you believe he will get results quicker if he's fatter? This is madness. If anything, it limits him from doing certain excercises like the pull up because of his increased body weight. Don't get me wrong, a lot of training requires you to eat much because your system will need the energy, but it is not an excuse for bad eating habbits.
Swimming will help building muscles ("getting big") to your whole body, as stated before. However, it is not a substitute for weight lifting but considered good cardio. Professional bodybuilders dont't do much cardio because they already lose lots of calories through excessive weight lifting. The average person on this forum does not. They need to do cardio if they want to put definition to their muscles.
And by the way, what is wrong about Scooby? Respect your elders. I believe he was referring to my original post. My stats are 198 cm / 70-71 kgs right now. I've gained about a kilo in the last month and improved a lot of my exercises (e.g. I began swimming 1 km x3 times a week, whereas now I swim 2 km x3). Haven't had a lot of visual improvements though. I guess that takes a lot more time than a few months, I dunno. =)
Is your goal to improve your body composition? if so you can see considerable improvements in 2 months on a program like starting strength. However if you're trying to improve your swimming than keep it up and congrats
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Thanks! Umm, just a bit of both I guess, but I'd say I'm more focused on swimming. I'm not sure if I should actually swim more (distance-wise) - I can probably do 3-4 km but I get bored at the end of 2 as it is.
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can somone explain this sentence
" observe the length of your flexors. Do your forearms flexors extend to the wrist, or are they tucked close to your elbow?"
the link in the sentence goes here http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/forearm.htm
its from here http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/aaron3.htm which talks about forearm potential / how to train them
just dont understand what that sentence is asking
i think its saying "look at your arm. how long is the muscles?" but it doesnt describe how youre supposed to see that without cutting your arm open
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On November 25 2011 21:33 FFGenerations wrote:can somone explain this sentence " observe the length of your flexors. Do your forearms flexors extend to the wrist, or are they tucked close to your elbow?" the link in the sentence goes here http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/forearm.htmits from here http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/aaron3.htm which talks about forearm potential / how to train them just dont understand what that sentence is asking i think its saying "look at your arm. how long is the muscles?" but it doesnt describe how youre supposed to see that without cutting your arm open
He means do your muscles extend farther down the arm, or do the muscles become tendons more quickly. It you make a fist and clench then dig in your fingers you should be able to feel your tendons and how long they are as well as the muscle bellies
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oh right
look guys you can see it in this pic
![[image loading]](http://content.revolutionhealth.com/contentimages/images-image_popup-ans7_golfer_elbow.jpg)
i always thought those were bones el oh el
well i cant tell if mine are long or not
i have very small hands and very long forearms but looking at that pic i wont be able to tell if my tendons/muscles are "long" or not.
19.5cm from middle finger tip to wrist crease (inside)
18.5cm hand span (little finger to thumb extended)
25.5-26 cm from wrist crease to elbow (inside) (27cm to lowest elbow inside crease)
tendons seem to visibly extend 9-10cm from wrist crease down my arm
after that i wouldnt like to guess at whether they're still going or have turned into muscle by then
wrist is 17cm at knobbly bit
18cm at "thinnest-looking" bit
27cm at bulge-before-elbow bit (extended)
well anyway LOL
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So in a gym I always get people asking me to help them out with exercises, or spot for them. Particularly, people always seek help with their military press (sitting position, using dumbbells). The problem arises when they want me to lift the weights for them to place in the starting position. So... how the fuck do I do that? Seriously.
Do I grab both dumbbells and pass them (from the front) to the guy at the same time (with his hands ready at his shoulders)? In that case my dick ends up being in their face, that being kind of awkward. The bench gets in the way if I try to approach from the back. Do I hand one dumbbell over at a time and hope he doesn't tip over and fall? The dumbbells are usually decently heavy too, like 60 lb, I can't exactly juggle those like tennis balls. The weight complicates the transition phase where I actually slide the weight into his hand; I'm clinching the dumbbell fairly tightly, meanwhile he grabs my fist, so we end up in this lock where it's a struggle to pass the weight into his hand safely. It doesn't fucking help that the guy, after asking for my help, shoves earphones into his ears right away, negating any communication we could have had. Then they expect me to do the exercise with them (constantly helping them at the elbows). What the fuck, I ain't your butt buddy to do exercises as a pair. Do the damn exercise yourself or grab lighter weights. I'm there to make sure you don't dislocate your shoulder, that the weights don't go flying into someone's face when you decide you're done with your set, and maybe give a slight push if you are struggling with your very last rep.
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LOL
damn i hope someone helps you
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Either tell him nope or get tight undies so your balls don't jiggle.
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