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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
On November 05 2011 11:28 emjaytron wrote: Here in Australia we can get kangaroo meat, it's also super duper lean. A bit trickier to cook though. Yeah I've had kangaroo once, it's really good  | ||
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
1) Thus far I've done nothing special with my diet, except eating more and drinking a lot of full fat milk, but now I'm planning to get some supplements. What I'm wondering is if I should be buying individual supplements, or get one of those all in one sort of things. Logic is telling me it would be cheaper and better to get the individual supplements, but I just wanted to check here if that's right. 2) I work from afternoon to late at night on the days I go to work, so I can't go to the gym after work, so far I've just been going on off days, but I'm wondering if there would be any negatives to just going in the morning before work. I'm a waiter so I won't be doing any exercise after the workout, but I won't get a chance to rest for at least 12 hours after the workout. 3) My fingers always ache pretty badly after dead-lifting, I'm sure I must be doing something wrong, because there are people who can dead-lift huge weights and their fingers don't seem to be the limiting factor in what they can lift. Any idea what I could be doing wrong? | ||
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
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JohnnyBanana
Canada493 Posts
What are your thoughts on those and other supplements? I've been doing a lot of research on this for a week now and I haven't really found anything negative at all. These Nootropics are supplements with little-to-no negative side effects as the main focus, from what I'm reading. The caffeine and theanine looks really easy to get/make, with immediate short-term effects. Studying for medical stuff...and man it's about 4-6 hours/day studying quite a few days of the week. These all seem like low risk supplements (risk being they might not do much at all, wasting a bit money), but with so many reports/reviews of these supplements working...I can't even remember if I read one saying they didn't work. | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On November 05 2011 13:31 Eufouria wrote: Couple of questions. I've been going to the gym, fairly seriously for the last month but these are some things I've been wondering for a while. 1) Thus far I've done nothing special with my diet, except eating more and drinking a lot of full fat milk, but now I'm planning to get some supplements. What I'm wondering is if I should be buying individual supplements, or get one of those all in one sort of things. Logic is telling me it would be cheaper and better to get the individual supplements, but I just wanted to check here if that's right. 2) I work from afternoon to late at night on the days I go to work, so I can't go to the gym after work, so far I've just been going on off days, but I'm wondering if there would be any negatives to just going in the morning before work. I'm a waiter so I won't be doing any exercise after the workout, but I won't get a chance to rest for at least 12 hours after the workout. 3) My fingers always ache pretty badly after dead-lifting, I'm sure I must be doing something wrong, because there are people who can dead-lift huge weights and their fingers don't seem to be the limiting factor in what they can lift. Any idea what I could be doing wrong? 1) Don't really know about supplements, but what are you looking into? 2) I don't think it will be a big deal. I would try it out and see how it is, if there are problems with it you can always go back to your regular time. 3) Grip strength will improve the heavier you lift. Lift double overhand until you can't/it interferes with proper form, then switch to mixed grip, because double overhand will improve grip strength. Always use chalk, also if your hands are smaller it might be harder. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On November 05 2011 13:40 Kamais_Ookin wrote: I'm doing weighted chin-ups/pull-ups using a dumbbell but now it's becoming really difficult so I want a one of those weighted chain belts where I can use plates and it hangs down from my body. I live in Canada and there are no stores here that sell belt so where the hell do I get it from online with reasonable price? This is the one that I use... I've put more than 100 lbs on it so I know it can take that for long periods of time. On November 05 2011 13:31 Eufouria wrote: Couple of questions. I've been going to the gym, fairly seriously for the last month but these are some things I've been wondering for a while. 1) Thus far I've done nothing special with my diet, except eating more and drinking a lot of full fat milk, but now I'm planning to get some supplements. What I'm wondering is if I should be buying individual supplements, or get one of those all in one sort of things. Logic is telling me it would be cheaper and better to get the individual supplements, but I just wanted to check here if that's right. 2) I work from afternoon to late at night on the days I go to work, so I can't go to the gym after work, so far I've just been going on off days, but I'm wondering if there would be any negatives to just going in the morning before work. I'm a waiter so I won't be doing any exercise after the workout, but I won't get a chance to rest for at least 12 hours after the workout. 3) My fingers always ache pretty badly after dead-lifting, I'm sure I must be doing something wrong, because there are people who can dead-lift huge weights and their fingers don't seem to be the limiting factor in what they can lift. Any idea what I could be doing wrong? 1. What is it you're looking to do with supplements? YOu should also realize that supplements maybe help a couple percentage points in overal improvement. The rest comes from the big 4: refining your sleep, nutrition, training, and stress 2. That's fine going in the morning. If you get back late it's probably just best to go to sleep 3. Do you do any stretching or mobility work for your fingers? I know if I don't warm mine up enough before squeezing something really hard they ache for me. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On November 05 2011 16:52 JohnnyBanana wrote: Hey have any of you heard of supplements called Nootropics? Specifically caffeine + L-Theanine, ALCAR, choline, and racetams? What are your thoughts on those and other supplements? I've been doing a lot of research on this for a week now and I haven't really found anything negative at all. These Nootropics are supplements with little-to-no negative side effects as the main focus, from what I'm reading. The caffeine and theanine looks really easy to get/make, with immediate short-term effects. Studying for medical stuff...and man it's about 4-6 hours/day studying quite a few days of the week. These all seem like low risk supplements (risk being they might not do much at all, wasting a bit money), but with so many reports/reviews of these supplements working...I can't even remember if I read one saying they didn't work. What exactly are you trying to do? I mean, there's ergogenic benefits to a lot of stuff.... but this one seems a bit contradictive as caffeine is a stimulant... which L-theanine, racetams, choline, are more typically for recovery. Not sure where acetyl-L carnitine (never seen it abbreviated ALCAR before.. had to look it up haha) falls in that range though. I mean if you were looking for improvements best take caffeine et al before, and then the rest afterwards. However, souping yourself up on caffeine before workouts on a constant basis can burn you out really fast too (into overtraining that is.. if you don't have a good handle on it). | ||
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Stets
United States14 Posts
On November 05 2011 13:40 Kamais_Ookin wrote: I'm doing weighted chin-ups/pull-ups using a dumbbell but now it's becoming really difficult so I want a one of those weighted chain belts where I can use plates and it hangs down from my body. I live in Canada and there are no stores here that sell belt so where the hell do I get it from online with reasonable price? If price is a concern you could go to a home improvement store and grab a length of chain and a couple carabiners. | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
On November 05 2011 16:52 JohnnyBanana wrote: Hey have any of you heard of supplements called Nootropics? Specifically caffeine + L-Theanine, ALCAR, choline, and racetams? What are your thoughts on those and other supplements? I've been doing a lot of research on this for a week now and I haven't really found anything negative at all. These Nootropics are supplements with little-to-no negative side effects as the main focus, from what I'm reading. The caffeine and theanine looks really easy to get/make, with immediate short-term effects. Studying for medical stuff...and man it's about 4-6 hours/day studying quite a few days of the week. These all seem like low risk supplements (risk being they might not do much at all, wasting a bit money), but with so many reports/reviews of these supplements working...I can't even remember if I read one saying they didn't work. Being in med school myself and studying when needed at least the hours you posted I can only say that good sleep trumps any nootropics/supps I've tried. The problem with the supps is that you build very fast a resistance for them and studies go on for several years at least so it is in no way feasible to keep it going with only supps. It may be good to have a stash for the infamous "oh shit, test is tomorrow" occasions... Managed a new pr yesterday! 107,5kg C+J :D Took me three attempts though... | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
On November 06 2011 00:05 Cambium wrote: Oysters are really cheap in my local super market this month, how many should I eat? I think I've probably eaten over thirty in the past week, am I going to die...? Eventually yes, you are going to die. | ||
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Autofire2
Pakistan290 Posts
On November 05 2011 23:49 Orpheos wrote: a couple sessions away from squat/DL body weight. Im excited!!! I'm under 2 weeks away, and getting pumped! I started a month ago with like 55 lbs total lol. Gogo us noob lifters! | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On November 06 2011 00:17 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: Eventually yes, you are going to die. we are all going to die eventually now i'm sad  *sadface* | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
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Nazarene
Denmark996 Posts
Example of a strong man: Deadlift ladder: 20 bars weighing 140-235 kg, increasing by 5 kg each bar. Starting at 140, you had 30 sec. to lift that bar, until you had to move on to the next one. If you got to the 235 kg bar you had 1 minute to do as many reps as possible with that bar. One of the dudes got to the end and did 6 reps with 235 kg in under one minute. Fuck :-D I PR'ed with 185 kg :-) | ||
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JohnnyBanana
Canada493 Posts
On November 05 2011 22:33 eshlow wrote: What exactly are you trying to do? I mean, there's ergogenic benefits to a lot of stuff.... but this one seems a bit contradictive as caffeine is a stimulant... which L-theanine, racetams, choline, are more typically for recovery. Not sure where acetyl-L carnitine (never seen it abbreviated ALCAR before.. had to look it up haha) falls in that range though. I mean if you were looking for improvements best take caffeine et al before, and then the rest afterwards. However, souping yourself up on caffeine before workouts on a constant basis can burn you out really fast too (into overtraining that is.. if you don't have a good handle on it). I'm not looking for improvements to my workout. I'm not really looking for supplements at all for workouts right now. I want to use the stuff I listed specifically for studying. I have to constantly do 4-6 hour study sessions...and they're really hard to go through. My mind wanders so much, I do not have ADD or anything. Almost all my peers and everyone I know has this problem. I guess it's not really a problem, now that I think about it. It's just super dry material, and I have to put in the hours to learn it. The problem for me is that I have to put that time (usually 4-6hrs) almost 5-6 days a week and that's where it gets taxing. I can't focus a lot, especially after hour 4. Like my studying stamina seems pretty low...if you get what I mean. In terms of caffeine/L-Theanine, after researching a lot on their relationships...the theanine is used to counteract the negative effects of caffeine. I, and many others, would use the caffeine to stay alert, but more importantly, stay focused. Caffeine causes the person to be jittery, sometimes anxiety/stress is increased from caffeine, etc. So while it helps you stay focused, it can cause those unwanted side effects. Theanine has a relaxing effect and from reading so many recounts/reviews of people trying caffeine/theanine, the overall effect is that it reduces the anxiety and stress level when studying. They're a lot more relaxed and not thinking about stuff like, "have to study, gonna fail if I don't...oh man what does this paragraph mean?" etc. They're not jittery from the caffeine and a good portion of the stress just melts away. Even the caffeine headaches that sometimes occurs from larger doses (100-200mg) is eliminated. Again, this is just from my own readings of these supplements. I've tried very hard to find negatives...but they're just doesn't seem to be anything. On November 05 2011 22:45 sJarl wrote:Being in med school myself and studying when needed at least the hours you posted I can only say that good sleep trumps any nootropics/supps I've tried. The problem with the supps is that you build very fast a resistance for them and studies go on for several years at least so it is in no way feasible to keep it going with only supps. It may be good to have a stash for the infamous "oh shit, test is tomorrow" occasions... Managed a new pr yesterday! 107,5kg C+J :D Took me three attempts though... Grats on your PR, all it took was 3 attempts? You should check my gym bros...they'll spend 30min or like 10+ attempts trying to get a PR higher than their buddy lol... I've been sleeping a lot better for about 3 weeks now. Minimum 8 hours, but on average I sleep a solid 9, maybe 10 hours on weekends. But these supplements aren't supposed to be a substitute for sleeping. The effects of these nootropic supplements all seem to be beneficial, but not 'super significant' (i.e. I don't think anyone says take this supplement, enjoy your As). A friend I talked to last year described it as the following (paraphrased a little bit), "I sit down to study on a Saturday at 2pm. Finish at 6-8pm no problem at all. I think clearer, I'm much more focused on the material at hand, no random thoughts are coming into my head like they normally do...such as it's Saturday better do my laundry, cooking, errands, etc. I'm not thinking about the test I have on Monday and whether it's going to be super hard or not, I'm just really focused on getting through the chapters and work I was doing at the time". It let him 'laser' in on studying, if you understand what I'm saying. He could study hours and just think clearly about the stuff he was reading/studying, no other outside thoughts were interrupting him. If anyone has ever tried nootropic supplements, I'm willing to hear your thoughts! Good or bad! EDIT: Here's another supplement, available off Amazon easily: Rhodiola Rosea (aka Roseroot). Quick search shows it effects are equivalent to caffeine without any of the jitteriness. http://www.clarocet.com/referencelibrary/rhodiola-rosea/clinical.htm http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15256690 <--says Rhodiola Rosea provides improvement to endurance exercise, and that even after being on Roseroot for 4 weeks, the effects did not decrease...compared to the control the effects were just as pronounced day 1 as they were day 30. I can't find anything about Roseroot either...seems like healthy brain juice from what I'm reading... | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
Sorry to preach, but time management, sleeping and exercising go along way in helping you succeed. | ||
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Sneakyz
Sweden2361 Posts
I used to have problems studying for a long time but I when I thought about why, i realized it was because I never had any water/food at all during my sessions. Now I have no problems sitting 6 hours straight, just make sure you eat and keep yourself hydrated. Personally I like to listen to music while I study but I guess that's maybe not for everyone. | ||
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JohnnyBanana
Canada493 Posts
I wouldn't be in med school if I didn't know how to study You can preach time management, sleeping, exercise all you want. Like I've said, I already do most of those things well. I'm looking for minor added benefits, nothing extreme.Notice how I haven't talked about Ritalin, Adderall, etc. ? Cause those are what I'd consider to be 'drugs'. Yes, technically everything is a drug...but stuff like Adderall and whatnot has significant downsides. I can't really find any for supplements at all. PS: Rhodiola Rosea is an herb! Not even a manmade drug. | ||
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