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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On November 04 2011 01:19 glurio wrote: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/133028228.html "Squat lifts likely cause of stress fractures in young athletes, study finds" anyone seen this study? What study? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=squats stress fracture No items found. Apparently, their study is too elite for pubmed. | ||
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
 First time in the gym for about a month and a half. Was a pleasant surprise, I didn't lose much strength at all! Did 5-5-3 120kg squat, 80 kg bench and 135 kg DL! I've lost 10/5/15 kg respectively. Will probably be sore as fuck tomorrow >_> | ||
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4thHatchery
Finland125 Posts
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FFGenerations
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
I've after a few months of SL and 20+ lbs gained in weight that my flexibility has gone way down. There's certain stretches I used to be able to do but can't even get half-way through to anymore. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it normal?! | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On November 04 2011 02:39 sJarl wrote: Everyone that is not getting plenty of sun every day should supplement with vit d.... On related news, I just registered for my first powerlifting meet. It will take place on December 17th. Getting quite hyped. Nice, good luck! | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On November 04 2011 06:24 4thHatchery wrote: http://www.nassannualmeeting.org/Documents/Teens_Skip_Squat_Lifts_RELEASE.pdf I'm quite curious as to why they say bone deformation under load (which is SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN) leads to stress fractures. Loading actually strengthens bone as long as it's done safely. Oh wait, they didn't even do a population study to see how many people who had spinal fractures got them from lifting weights. Good jobs researchers -_- | ||
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Hurricane
United States3939 Posts
Is there some program like SS that has an easy day on wednesday? Could I mess around with my SS program to give myself an easy day on wednesday? Kind of like a modified madcow just with heavy 3x5 on monday/friday instead of heavy 5 on monday and heavy 3 on friday? I'm taking a break until next monday because of a couple legitimate reasons. I dont' bitch on on gym sessions, but this whole work & heavy squat thing is not going as I feel SS is supposed to go or how well it was going earlier. I'm not stalling because my novice gains are gone, I know that because of how easy I destroy PR's if I get a two day rest and lift the second night. Thoughts? | ||
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XuoriG
Canada165 Posts
Squat : 250lbs Deadlift : 275lbs OP : 110lbs BP : 175lbs | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On November 04 2011 10:28 Hurricane wrote: So I do actual work for a living and squatting 3x a week is not going well at all. I had a random 3day weekend last weekend and fucking destroyed all my lifts on monday np. Was seriously one of the easiest sessions I've had in a couple months and my squat/bench/dl were all PR's. When I try to go 3x a week and squat every session wednesday/friday I have super hard times getting my weights and usually stall on wednesday and if not I do on friday. Is there some program like SS that has an easy day on wednesday? Could I mess around with my SS program to give myself an easy day on wednesday? Kind of like a modified madcow just with heavy 3x5 on monday/friday instead of heavy 5 on monday and heavy 3 on friday? I'm taking a break until next monday because of a couple legitimate reasons. I dont' bitch on on gym sessions, but this whole work & heavy squat thing is not going as I feel SS is supposed to go or how well it was going earlier. I'm not stalling because my novice gains are gone, I know that because of how easy I destroy PR's if I get a two day rest and lift the second night. Thoughts? 1) Try 80% squat or front squat on Wed 2) If you want to switch your program, then Texas Method has a light day Wed. Basically with that you are increasing on Monday and setting PRs (1s, 2s, 3s or 5s) on Friday. Buying Practical Programming, it's a great book! | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
Edit: Holy shit I'm a wraith!! | ||
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emjaytron
Australia544 Posts
On November 04 2011 07:32 eshlow wrote: I'm quite curious as to why they say bone deformation under load (which is SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN) leads to stress fractures. Loading actually strengthens bone as long as it's done safely. Oh wait, they didn't even do a population study to see how many people who had spinal fractures got them from lifting weights. Good jobs researchers -_- i was under the assumption stress fractures come more from shear forces? "The truth is no adolescent should be doing this particular exercise" i look forward to this being laughed at | ||
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Jupiter
Australia73 Posts
On November 04 2011 10:28 Hurricane wrote: So I do actual work for a living and squatting 3x a week is not going well at all. I had a random 3day weekend last weekend and fucking destroyed all my lifts on monday np. Was seriously one of the easiest sessions I've had in a couple months and my squat/bench/dl were all PR's. When I try to go 3x a week and squat every session wednesday/friday I have super hard times getting my weights and usually stall on wednesday and if not I do on friday. Is there some program like SS that has an easy day on wednesday? Could I mess around with my SS program to give myself an easy day on wednesday? Kind of like a modified madcow just with heavy 3x5 on monday/friday instead of heavy 5 on monday and heavy 3 on friday? I'm taking a break until next monday because of a couple legitimate reasons. I dont' bitch on on gym sessions, but this whole work & heavy squat thing is not going as I feel SS is supposed to go or how well it was going earlier. I'm not stalling because my novice gains are gone, I know that because of how easy I destroy PR's if I get a two day rest and lift the second night. Thoughts? In my opinion I wouldn't change routines if everything is working well on starting strength. I thought about doing a similar thing in my final month of the program. My legs felt like they couldn't recover from the last session. I deloaded one last time and pushed through all 3 days a week of squatting. Although your situation seems to be different if you're not nearing the end of your novice gains. If you cant push through that (are you eating heaps? try eating more if not?) which is understandable then go with a light day wednesday. If you look at the 'advanced novice' version of starting strength day 2 is this - Day 2 Front Squat 3x5 OR Light Squat 2x5 (80% 5RM) Press 3x5 Deadlift 1x5 You could use that as a guide and do this on your wednesday. Warming up to 2 sets at 80% I found as well as my squats were getting harder I was upping my training intensity (mentally). Get really psyched up before all your sets. Whatever it takes. Who cares what anyone else thinks! I hope that helps a bit. Good luck with your training | ||
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Ingenol
United States1328 Posts
Currently I mentally visualize initiating the down movement with hips back as I move down then bending knees (exact opposite of positive portion) but it just doesn't feel quite right. Thanks for any info! | ||
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Jupiter
Australia73 Posts
On November 04 2011 22:35 Ingenol wrote: Can someone give me some refresher tips on the negative portion of deadlifts? I've been steadily increasing the weights and now they're starting to get a bit heavy (for me). I've really worked on my technique and feel very strong during the Currently I mentally visualize initiating the down movement with hips back as I move down then bending knees (exact opposite of positive portion) but it just doesn't feel quite right. Thanks for any info! I read this article recently http://www.t-nation.com/strength-training-topics/1468 Thats one guys opinion though. Id be interested to hear what other people think. Personally I sort of do a controlled drop. Makes a bit of noise, but my gym doesn't seem to care to much. | ||
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deepfield1
United States373 Posts
On November 04 2011 10:28 Hurricane wrote: So I do actual work for a living and squatting 3x a week is not going well at all. I had a random 3day weekend last weekend and fucking destroyed all my lifts on monday np. Was seriously one of the easiest sessions I've had in a couple months and my squat/bench/dl were all PR's. When I try to go 3x a week and squat every session wednesday/friday I have super hard times getting my weights and usually stall on wednesday and if not I do on friday. Is there some program like SS that has an easy day on wednesday? Could I mess around with my SS program to give myself an easy day on wednesday? Kind of like a modified madcow just with heavy 3x5 on monday/friday instead of heavy 5 on monday and heavy 3 on friday? I'm taking a break until next monday because of a couple legitimate reasons. I dont' bitch on on gym sessions, but this whole work & heavy squat thing is not going as I feel SS is supposed to go or how well it was going earlier. I'm not stalling because my novice gains are gone, I know that because of how easy I destroy PR's if I get a two day rest and lift the second night. Thoughts? When you say "actual work" does that mean you are doing manual labor? If you are feeling trashed, it's possible you aren't eating enough. | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
On November 04 2011 23:40 deepfield1 wrote: When you say "actual work" does that mean you are doing manual labor? If you are feeling trashed, it's possible you aren't eating enough. I agree, working during the summers is the best thing I ever did for my gains. Kept my appetite through the roof. | ||
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Advocado
Denmark994 Posts
On November 04 2011 23:09 Jupiter wrote: I read this article recently http://www.t-nation.com/strength-training-topics/1468 Thats one guys opinion though. Id be interested to hear what other people think. Personally I sort of do a controlled drop. Makes a bit of noise, but my gym doesn't seem to care to much. Makes sense to me. It doesn't seem like you can recruit many muscles when lowering the deadlift except the abs and back. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On November 05 2011 02:35 Advocado wrote: Makes sense to me. It doesn't seem like you can recruit many muscles when lowering the deadlift except the abs and back. Agree with him. I never control the negative on heavy deadlift days; just follow the bar. It puts unnecesary stress on ur back. I pull sumo though; on regular deadlifts I NEVER tried to control a negative and it has work great for me. Pavel said in his book that negatives on deadlifts are not good so I obey :p. Also my present for TL: 115kg BP at 75kg | ||
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