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Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
October 20 2011 04:12 GMT
#12961
Hmm, so since I can't do squats anymore for a while because of my groin strain what are your guy's opinion of doing deadlifts 3x a week instead? Keep in mind that they don't affect my groin strain at all and I do deadlifts once a week but I need more leg work, thoughts?
I <3 Plexa.
MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
October 20 2011 04:19 GMT
#12962
Being in a thread full of PhD and MD hopefuls makes me feel so inferior with my future RN degree hahaha. However, this thread and the people make me feel happy about the next generation of doctors and "experts" who may contribute to the end of the mass amounts of misinformation currently provided to the general public. That would certainly make my job easier =D
If you die this way, you won't live to tell anyone how you died
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
October 20 2011 05:13 GMT
#12963
On October 20 2011 13:19 MeShiet wrote:
Being in a thread full of PhD and MD hopefuls makes me feel so inferior with my future RN degree hahaha. However, this thread and the people make me feel happy about the next generation of doctors and "experts" who may contribute to the end of the mass amounts of misinformation currently provided to the general public. That would certainly make my job easier =D


This is a bit offtopic from your post, but I'm studying Aeronautical Engineering and my class (~23 students) is probably the fittest in my entire school, which is odd considering we have an order of magnitude more class per week on top of our thesis and military training.

Jackedness breeds excellence
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
October 20 2011 08:41 GMT
#12964
So then, how long does it take to get a MD degree in the States? Here you just apply, take an entrance exam and if you are in the top 48 you get in and get to spend your next 6 years in school lol.

I remember doing gross anatomy and remembering types of epithelial cells last year...dull as fuck.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
October 20 2011 09:12 GMT
#12965
On October 20 2011 13:12 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Hmm, so since I can't do squats anymore for a while because of my groin strain what are your guy's opinion of doing deadlifts 3x a week instead? Keep in mind that they don't affect my groin strain at all and I do deadlifts once a week but I need more leg work, thoughts?

Your situation is literally 100% like mine. I picked up a groin strain which made squats damn painful, so I swapped deadlifts and squats around in SL. Now I do 3x deadlifts every session, and one set of squats every second session. I'm sure it's not ideal, but it's allowed me to continue doing leg work without worrying about the strain. The only things to remember is to increase DLs more slowly (if you continue increasing it by 5kgs a session 3x a week, you'll fail very quickly), and that deadlifts generally take longer than squats (at least for me), so your sessions might get a bit longer.
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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
October 20 2011 09:25 GMT
#12966
I think you can put a little more effort in recovery before swapping them out. Eating more, foam rolling, taking walks and swimming on off days etc.

When you are squatting 3x / week you basicly live and breathe recovery
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Nazarene
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Denmark996 Posts
October 20 2011 13:16 GMT
#12967
A little report on last weekend's competition:

The event was held in a huge indoor facility. A lot of people came and cheered, which was really cool. 2 workouts Saturday, 1 workout and the finale for the top 8 teams Sunday.
So the first 2 workouts were pure cardio, no skill required.

workout 1:
8 min. as many rounds of possible of:
8 DL (90 kg.)
8 burpee box jumps (80 cm box, chest must touch ground before jumping onto it)
I competed in the team competition, which meant me and my buddy took turns completing 1 round. Intense workout since you got a little breather in between rounds and then attacked it again.

workout 2 is hard to explain, but whatever, it wasn't very hard as we had to take turns throwing some weight over our heads (and it couldn't be too heavy as the girls were there too)

We were in 8th place after the first 2. Only the top 8 teams made it to the finals, so we had to do well in workout 3.

Workout 3:
The team must complete a total of:
120 thrusters (45 kg) (a thruster is a front squat which turns into a push press at the top)
180 toes to bar (hang from a rack and throw your toes up and touch the bar)

Really fun workout, we got 3rd place on that. Which meant we went in the final, yay :-D

Final:
400 m. run
50 m. over and under hurdles
150 m. run
20 muscle ups
200 m. buddy carry
30 pullups each
50 m. walking lunge
150 m. run

So the hard part of this workout was obviously the muscle ups. 1 of the girls from my team knew she couldn't even do 1, so that left 3 of us doing them. But when it came down to it, the other girl failed her muscle ups and the other guy only did 2, lol. Good thing muscle ups are my forte :-D
First I banged out 11 in a row, then the other guy did 2, and then I did the remaining 7.

We got second place in the finals but ended 4th place because of the results from the earlier workouts. Which was better than expected to be honest, we were just happy to be in the finals. Overall it was a really fun weekend with lots of nice people.

I hope to get some pictures from the event that you can see.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
October 20 2011 13:34 GMT
#12968
18 muscle-ups after all that shit? Mad stuff man!

Congrats on the results
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
October 20 2011 13:42 GMT
#12969
I fucked up myself yesterday.

Cramp on my right abductor.

it seriously sucked to be me. Riced it up, and I'm feeling 100% better. Will rice up again, and hit Squat and deadlift tomorrow, really, really fucking hard.

Motherfucker I'm coming for you!
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
October 20 2011 15:16 GMT
#12970
On October 20 2011 18:12 Daigomi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 13:12 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Hmm, so since I can't do squats anymore for a while because of my groin strain what are your guy's opinion of doing deadlifts 3x a week instead? Keep in mind that they don't affect my groin strain at all and I do deadlifts once a week but I need more leg work, thoughts?

Your situation is literally 100% like mine. I picked up a groin strain which made squats damn painful, so I swapped deadlifts and squats around in SL. Now I do 3x deadlifts every session, and one set of squats every second session. I'm sure it's not ideal, but it's allowed me to continue doing leg work without worrying about the strain. The only things to remember is to increase DLs more slowly (if you continue increasing it by 5kgs a session 3x a week, you'll fail very quickly), and that deadlifts generally take longer than squats (at least for me), so your sessions might get a bit longer.
Alright thanks, will do!
I <3 Plexa.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 15:48:04
October 20 2011 15:40 GMT
#12971
On October 20 2011 17:41 sJarl wrote:
So then, how long does it take to get a MD degree in the States? Here you just apply, take an entrance exam and if you are in the top 48 you get in and get to spend your next 6 years in school lol.

I remember doing gross anatomy and remembering types of epithelial cells last year...dull as fuck.


eight years school plus residency is what's typically expected. It can be longer depending on the program you go into - most types of surgery especially.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
October 20 2011 16:38 GMT
#12972
On October 21 2011 00:40 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 17:41 sJarl wrote:
So then, how long does it take to get a MD degree in the States? Here you just apply, take an entrance exam and if you are in the top 48 you get in and get to spend your next 6 years in school lol.

I remember doing gross anatomy and remembering types of epithelial cells last year...dull as fuck.


eight years school plus residency is what's typically expected. It can be longer depending on the program you go into - most types of surgery especially.


Ah ok. Then it comes out as the same since you start uni 2 years earlier than we do.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
October 20 2011 21:22 GMT
#12973
damn i love deadlifts and chins <3

my grip strenght is a bit weak so it hurts so bad (so good) at the end of my workouts
KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
October 20 2011 23:05 GMT
#12974
I am stupid. Real stupid.

Yesterdays workout was: Squat, OHP, cleans and dips.
Tomorrows workout is: Squat, bench, DL and chins.

But for some stupid reason I decided to go for a run with my dad today. He challenged me for 1km sprint, I won but only barely (he might be 50, but he trains for a marathon and runs 60km a week). Now my glutes are really tired and I don't know if I should squat and dead tomorrow ((

Should I rest tomorrow, just do light weights or what do you think?
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
October 20 2011 23:09 GMT
#12975
On October 21 2011 08:05 KOVU wrote:
I am stupid. Real stupid.

Yesterdays workout was: Squat, OHP, cleans and dips.
Tomorrows workout is: Squat, bench, DL and chins.

But for some stupid reason I decided to go for a run with my dad today. He challenged me for 1km sprint, I won but only barely (he might be 50, but he trains for a marathon and runs 60km a week). Now my glutes are really tired and I don't know if I should squat and dead tomorrow ((

Should I rest tomorrow, just do light weights or what do you think?

You could do a light day or if you have an extra rest day coming up soon, then you can take it now.
Official Entusman #21
KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
October 20 2011 23:34 GMT
#12976
On October 21 2011 08:09 infinity21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 08:05 KOVU wrote:
I am stupid. Real stupid.

Yesterdays workout was: Squat, OHP, cleans and dips.
Tomorrows workout is: Squat, bench, DL and chins.

But for some stupid reason I decided to go for a run with my dad today. He challenged me for 1km sprint, I won but only barely (he might be 50, but he trains for a marathon and runs 60km a week). Now my glutes are really tired and I don't know if I should squat and dead tomorrow ((

Should I rest tomorrow, just do light weights or what do you think?

You could do a light day or if you have an extra rest day coming up soon, then you can take it now.

I think I will do that. I usually run in between workoutdays, but rarely its balls-to-wall batshit crazy running.

Feel so stupid too, was really looking forward to deadlifting tomorrow.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 00:35:04
October 21 2011 00:34 GMT
#12977
On October 21 2011 08:34 KOVU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 08:09 infinity21 wrote:
On October 21 2011 08:05 KOVU wrote:
I am stupid. Real stupid.

Yesterdays workout was: Squat, OHP, cleans and dips.
Tomorrows workout is: Squat, bench, DL and chins.

But for some stupid reason I decided to go for a run with my dad today. He challenged me for 1km sprint, I won but only barely (he might be 50, but he trains for a marathon and runs 60km a week). Now my glutes are really tired and I don't know if I should squat and dead tomorrow ((

Should I rest tomorrow, just do light weights or what do you think?

You could do a light day or if you have an extra rest day coming up soon, then you can take it now.

I think I will do that. I usually run in between workoutdays, but rarely its balls-to-wall batshit crazy running.

Feel so stupid too, was really looking forward to deadlifting tomorrow.


Make sure you eat enough, do a bit of stretching/foam rolling, and get a great nights sleep. Then tomorrow, you go as hard as you can, but if you honestly can't do it - it's alright. Better to back off and do a light day, than to injure yourself and be out for weeks.

Also, if running 1km is killing your glutes, you might not be engaging them to their full potential on your lifts... there was a previous article in this thread about the glutes, and how they're certainly the KING of athletic performance. If your hamstrings are "taking over" for them, then you aren't getting as much out of the lift as you could be. I know it really helped my squat and my dead to make sure I was engaging them on each lift.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
October 21 2011 01:08 GMT
#12978
On October 20 2011 18:25 sJarl wrote:
I think you can put a little more effort in recovery before swapping them out. Eating more, foam rolling, taking walks and swimming on off days etc.

When you are squatting 3x / week you basicly live and breathe recovery


Can't you alter squat form to not affect your groin as much
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
October 21 2011 02:23 GMT
#12979
Haven't had any diet soda or sugar free gum in over 5 weeks!!!! YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Yes, this is a major accomplishment for me.
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
October 21 2011 02:48 GMT
#12980
Didn't know we had so many med majors in here :D

Gotta lift tomorrow. But I dunno what I'm going to do. Im scheduling all my appointments tomorrow, so I'll be getting into a PT sometime soon. Tomorrow session is OH Press but I'm holding off on all shoulder movements beside bench.

Prehab/rehab work? Anyone know of any good premade routines to do :D

If not, well then. I'll figure something out haha
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