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Nazarene
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Denmark996 Posts
February 05 2011 15:08 GMT
#1241
My lower back is bothering me (hurts to squat, strange). Any exercise suggestions to rehab your lower back?
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
February 05 2011 15:19 GMT
#1242
On February 06 2011 00:08 Nazarene wrote:
My lower back is bothering me (hurts to squat, strange). Any exercise suggestions to rehab your lower back?




Those stretches always make my lower back feel like new.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 15:57:50
February 05 2011 15:46 GMT
#1243
:D

Raped the 110kg squat (3x5)
Bench press 3x5 80kg (asdfsdf)
deadlift 110kg 1x5 my right glute is bitching on me again .

but good day nonetheless, specially night <3 :D}

edit: thanks for all the words brozo's.

I just wanted to show the guy that with proper form and good technique you don't need to wear a belt if you feel safe and perfectly fine without it .

You guys know that I won't be owning anyone lifting 120kg..that's lightweight, wait for me to get to 180-200 and we'll talk.

much <3 :D
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 16:10:20
February 05 2011 16:09 GMT
#1244
On February 05 2011 23:08 BetterFasterStronger wrote:
how in the fuck is bodybuilding.com not recommended lol...

But the cool thing is I already started a supplement company / fitness website that plans to be involved in eSports. We've already talked to incontrol a bit about it.


BB.com has some good resources for sure..... but it's also infested with a lot of crap.

I tend to try to recommend sites that only have for the most part all quality stuff so you can't go wrong if some random person starts browsing through the rest of the site.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
February 05 2011 16:17 GMT
#1245
On February 06 2011 00:46 funkie wrote:
:D

Raped the 110kg squat (3x5)
Bench press 3x5 80kg (asdfsdf)
deadlift 110kg 1x5 my right glute is bitching on me again .

but good day nonetheless, specially night <3 :D}

edit: thanks for all the words brozo's.

I just wanted to show the guy that with proper form and good technique you don't need to wear a belt if you feel safe and perfectly fine without it .

You guys know that I won't be owning anyone lifting 120kg..that's lightweight, wait for me to get to 180-200 and we'll talk.

much <3 :D


Woooot? since when did you get your bench so high?

I see no reason to wear a belt if you don't feel like it.

What is wrong with your right glute? Getting too many grabs at it lately?
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 16:23:53
February 05 2011 16:22 GMT
#1246
On February 05 2011 17:53 Drowsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 17:16 decafchicken wrote:


hahahahah oh eshlow too funny ^_^ Lifting is way easier and better than poker. Poker is too much thinking and not enough being awesome.




He's totally right though... otherwise intelligent people can be complete morons when it comes to exercise program design or poker. The people who know the least about either tend to insist they know the most.


Well, that's not all that I was thinking about,.. but yes. :p

~lotsa different styles you can focus on and be successful

~in the beginning, its best to build a foundation by learning starting hands, math, etc, just like doing simple programs, getting diet in order, etc

~as you start to improve you need to learn more complex programming where you start to move away from established programs and gear your training more towards your overall expereince, how your body is feeling, and more long term stuff to keep progressing which is consistent with starting to learn hand reading, betting lines, playing the table, etc

~games for fairly incomplete information (don't know your opponents hole cards vs not knowing how your body is going to react in the gym that day until you actually warm up and start working out.... you know the feel where you feel crappy and set PRs or feel great and then have a terrible workout.. + some people go to public gym and get incomplete information in that people are going to be unpredictably interfering with their workouts and such)

~as you learn more about working out through experience you get a more intuitive feel of what works and what doesnt like poker

I thought it was pretty amusing when I told travis, haha
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
February 05 2011 18:18 GMT
#1247
I THINK GOING TO THE GYM IS PRETTY AWESOME.

AM I ALONE IN THIS OR IS THERE PEOPLE IN THREAD WHO FEEL JUST LIKE i DO?!.

we toly pwn..

By july i want to start doing Snatches and Press again! :D
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 18:55:47
February 05 2011 18:54 GMT
#1248
Nah, going to the gym sucks ^_^

I seriously don't know if i'll be able to go a week without snatching T_T

Nice numbers funkie! phenomenal progress from last year. 110 and 80!
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
February 05 2011 19:16 GMT
#1249
Ok, so im going to the gym tomorrow since im almost done the book. Would you guys recommend a starting workout? Should i do all the lifts? Or should i sequence them out through the week (i think im gonna do sun/tues/thurs workouts)? If i shouldn't do them all, what should i focus on the most, im thinking squats (for leg muscles + stretching my body out), the press, dead lifts, power cleans. Not that i don't like the bench press, but i think the regular press will give me more overall for what im looking for.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
February 05 2011 19:32 GMT
#1250
On February 06 2011 03:54 decafchicken wrote:
Nah, going to the gym sucks ^_^

I seriously don't know if i'll be able to go a week without snatching T_T

Nice numbers funkie! phenomenal progress from last year. 110 and 80!


talking about being awesome.

here I am in my dad's house, watching Rugby Tourney of the Six nations thingy, and I see these FUCKING MONSTERS, fighting non-stop that shit is INSANE.

even the referee has like HUGE HUGE Legs. and I'm like "holy shit, decaf is just insane for doing shit like this hahaha" :D

it's super fast too ;o. How do you guys do it, and where can I find info on rugby (so I know what the fuck is going on, other than Wikipedia plz k thx <3 bai )

And thanks for the compliments on my numbers, I want to reach 2xBW squat and dunno, bench isn't taht important to me, but it feels nice to hit 80kg. :D

I want to rape deadlift too ^^;.

GOGO 150kg Deadlifttasdfasd
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 19:59:32
February 05 2011 19:59 GMT
#1251
On February 06 2011 04:16 Alventenie wrote:
Ok, so im going to the gym tomorrow since im almost done the book. Would you guys recommend a starting workout? Should i do all the lifts? Or should i sequence them out through the week (i think im gonna do sun/tues/thurs workouts)? If i shouldn't do them all, what should i focus on the most, im thinking squats (for leg muscles + stretching my body out), the press, dead lifts, power cleans. Not that i don't like the bench press, but i think the regular press will give me more overall for what im looking for.


Did you read the program you're supposed to do?

There's set workouts.. A and B alternating that you're supposed to do!

you don't have to worry about constructing your own at this point
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 20:24:16
February 05 2011 20:23 GMT
#1252
On February 06 2011 00:19 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 00:08 Nazarene wrote:
My lower back is bothering me (hurts to squat, strange). Any exercise suggestions to rehab your lower back?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjMJ5_6FKg0&feature=player_embedded

Those stretches always make my lower back feel like new.


Thanks for this, I tried it this morning, and I liked it. Maybe placebo, but w/e.

Also, my right glute (gluteus medius) feels sore/tense and hurts a little bit when I do squats, any stretches for that? I try to massage it as often as possible.

[image loading]
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 05 2011 20:25 GMT
#1253
On February 06 2011 00:08 Nazarene wrote:
My lower back is bothering me (hurts to squat, strange). Any exercise suggestions to rehab your lower back?


Some stuff here... althoguh depends what your injuries is

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/02/so-you-hurt-your-lower-back/

On February 06 2011 05:23 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 00:19 ShadowDrgn wrote:
On February 06 2011 00:08 Nazarene wrote:
My lower back is bothering me (hurts to squat, strange). Any exercise suggestions to rehab your lower back?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjMJ5_6FKg0&feature=player_embedded

Those stretches always make my lower back feel like new.


Thanks for this, I tried it this morning, and I liked it. Maybe placebo, but w/e.

Also, my right glute (gluteus medius) feels sore/tense and hurts a little bit when I do squats, any stretches for that? I try to massage it as often as possible.

[image loading]


page 4 of this... lots of stuff on mobility/stretching/strengthening

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/11/shoes-sitting-and-lower-body-dysfunctions/
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20074 Posts
February 05 2011 20:29 GMT
#1254
On February 06 2011 04:32 funkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 03:54 decafchicken wrote:
Nah, going to the gym sucks ^_^

I seriously don't know if i'll be able to go a week without snatching T_T

Nice numbers funkie! phenomenal progress from last year. 110 and 80!


talking about being awesome.

here I am in my dad's house, watching Rugby Tourney of the Six nations thingy, and I see these FUCKING MONSTERS, fighting non-stop that shit is INSANE.

even the referee has like HUGE HUGE Legs. and I'm like "holy shit, decaf is just insane for doing shit like this hahaha" :D

it's super fast too ;o. How do you guys do it, and where can I find info on rugby (so I know what the fuck is going on, other than Wikipedia plz k thx <3 bai )

And thanks for the compliments on my numbers, I want to reach 2xBW squat and dunno, bench isn't taht important to me, but it feels nice to hit 80kg. :D

I want to rape deadlift too ^^;.

GOGO 150kg Deadlifttasdfasd


God i wish we had bbc...they're broadcasting the six nations which is going to be fucking awesome. You do it by hitting people harder than they hit you

how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
February 05 2011 21:26 GMT
#1255
On February 06 2011 05:25 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 00:08 Nazarene wrote:
My lower back is bothering me (hurts to squat, strange). Any exercise suggestions to rehab your lower back?


Some stuff here... althoguh depends what your injuries is

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/02/so-you-hurt-your-lower-back/

Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 05:23 Cambium wrote:
On February 06 2011 00:19 ShadowDrgn wrote:
On February 06 2011 00:08 Nazarene wrote:
My lower back is bothering me (hurts to squat, strange). Any exercise suggestions to rehab your lower back?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjMJ5_6FKg0&feature=player_embedded

Those stretches always make my lower back feel like new.


Thanks for this, I tried it this morning, and I liked it. Maybe placebo, but w/e.

Also, my right glute (gluteus medius) feels sore/tense and hurts a little bit when I do squats, any stretches for that? I try to massage it as often as possible.

[image loading]


page 4 of this... lots of stuff on mobility/stretching/strengthening

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/11/shoes-sitting-and-lower-body-dysfunctions/


Thanks a ton for the link eshlow, I also found this page linked from the page you provided:

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/dispelling_the_glute_myth

Thoughts on some of the exercises?
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 21:46:11
February 05 2011 21:36 GMT
#1256
On February 06 2011 04:16 Alventenie wrote:
Ok, so im going to the gym tomorrow since im almost done the book. Would you guys recommend a starting workout? Should i do all the lifts? Or should i sequence them out through the week (i think im gonna do sun/tues/thurs workouts)? If i shouldn't do them all, what should i focus on the most, im thinking squats (for leg muscles + stretching my body out), the press, dead lifts, power cleans. Not that i don't like the bench press, but i think the regular press will give me more overall for what im looking for.


The recommended workout is in the programming section, although the wiki page lays it out more clearly:

Workout A
Squat (3x5), Bench (3x5), Deadlift (1x5)

Workout B
Squat (3x5), Press (3x5), Powercleans (5x3)

and you alternate for 3 days a week, ABA week 1, BAB week 2 etc. Usually mon/wed/fri, although the snow caused me to move to tues/thurs/saturday

You don't want to go more than 3days/week if you are following starting strength, until you've hit your max with the novice program and the advanced novice program. Also the wiki page lays out the program and how to increase your weight more clearly than the book imo (the book is better for in depth form analysis and such) so check out http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Starting_Strength_Wiki

Do you know what to do in terms of warmup sets? Also in the wiki, but make sure you know how that works before you get to the heavy weights
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
February 05 2011 21:39 GMT
#1257
On February 05 2011 22:26 unknown.sam wrote:

on another note, i downed like 15 oreo cookies and had 2 glasses of milk to go with it. damn those oreos. i feel so bloated now


Worst idea in a long time to copy this feat...bloated as hell during the workout! Loads of energy though.

Today's workout:

Deadlift: 117,5kg x 20.

One session left (125kg x 20) until í start Coan-Philippi and things get tough for realz.

ps. have I ever told you how awesome my gym is? Today I found the strongman "floor". Basicly it is a whole floor dedicated to training athletes for strongmen competitions. It has like 6 huge aluminium blocks to press overhead (the lightest one I think is around 70kg), atlas stones (starting at 90kg) and pedestals to place them on, a PROWLER <3 <3 <3 and even a keg throwing stand. To finish it up there are sleds, farmers walk handles, a 400-500kg tyre to flip and more

I'm sooo in love. Only thing I need to hide somewhere inside the gym is a foam roller and my life will be complete.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
February 05 2011 21:52 GMT
#1258
On February 06 2011 06:39 sJarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 22:26 unknown.sam wrote:

on another note, i downed like 15 oreo cookies and had 2 glasses of milk to go with it. damn those oreos. i feel so bloated now


Worst idea in a long time to copy this feat...bloated as hell during the workout! Loads of energy though.

Today's workout:

Deadlift: 117,5kg x 20.

One session left (125kg x 20) until í start Coan-Philippi and things get tough for realz.

ps. have I ever told you how awesome my gym is? Today I found the strongman "floor". Basicly it is a whole floor dedicated to training athletes for strongmen competitions. It has like 6 huge aluminium blocks to press overhead (the lightest one I think is around 70kg), atlas stones (starting at 90kg) and pedestals to place them on, a PROWLER <3 <3 <3 and even a keg throwing stand. To finish it up there are sleds, farmers walk handles, a 400-500kg tyre to flip and more

I'm sooo in love. Only thing I need to hide somewhere inside the gym is a foam roller and my life will be complete.


can I move to Iceland with you?, I'll do the cooking and cleaning for both of us xD
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
February 05 2011 21:59 GMT
#1259
On February 06 2011 06:26 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 05:25 eshlow wrote:
On February 06 2011 00:08 Nazarene wrote:
My lower back is bothering me (hurts to squat, strange). Any exercise suggestions to rehab your lower back?


Some stuff here... althoguh depends what your injuries is

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/02/so-you-hurt-your-lower-back/

On February 06 2011 05:23 Cambium wrote:
On February 06 2011 00:19 ShadowDrgn wrote:
On February 06 2011 00:08 Nazarene wrote:
My lower back is bothering me (hurts to squat, strange). Any exercise suggestions to rehab your lower back?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjMJ5_6FKg0&feature=player_embedded

Those stretches always make my lower back feel like new.


Thanks for this, I tried it this morning, and I liked it. Maybe placebo, but w/e.

Also, my right glute (gluteus medius) feels sore/tense and hurts a little bit when I do squats, any stretches for that? I try to massage it as often as possible.

[image loading]


page 4 of this... lots of stuff on mobility/stretching/strengthening

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/11/shoes-sitting-and-lower-body-dysfunctions/


Thanks a ton for the link eshlow, I also found this page linked from the page you provided:

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/dispelling_the_glute_myth

Thoughts on some of the exercises?


Most of them are good..... figure out which ones work best for you. That's generally how you do things.

And by the "best ones" I mean the ones that are teh hardest to do correctly... not the ones you can do well or easy :p
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
February 05 2011 22:02 GMT
#1260
On February 06 2011 00:08 Nazarene wrote:
My lower back is bothering me (hurts to squat, strange). Any exercise suggestions to rehab your lower back?


Is it just sore or do you feel a shooting pain?

As an aside I think a lot of people neglect magnesium supplementation. Most people are actually magnesium defecient. Magnesium is the most important mineral out there (Especially for active people), it's the antagonist to calcium. Calcium contracts the muscles whereas magnesium relaxes them. If the balance of calcium to magnesium is out of whack (which is very likely) your muscles will have a hard time relaxing after workouts and you'll be more prone to injury.

The kind that I use is called natural calm. Magnesium citrate is a lot more soluable than magnesium oxide. And your body generally is able to absorb only 50% of magnesium that you consume. I recommend that specific brand not only for that reason but because Dr.Pascal uses that brand for his athletes. Not only is he a gold medal olympian himself but he trains them (few of his guys won golds in Bejiing).

+ Show Spoiler +
Magnesium is also essential in addressing an issue common to almost all of the athletes treated by Dr. Pascal – muscle cramping. "When athletes first come to me, many of them have a history of cramping up. They get muscle cramps in their workouts and even in their races. When that happens, I know they do not have enough magnesium in their bodies."

Being so aware of this vital magnesium requirement, Dr. Pascal has virtually eliminated this issue for those he treats. "When I was in Eugene, Oregon, this summer for the Olympic Trials, I treated 40 of my athletes. One of the things I really had to be concerned about was the heat and muscle cramping, and so I used magnesium preventatively. "Take your magnesium." That's the first thing I said when I saw the athletes in the morning and the last thing I told them at the end of the day. None of my athletes had muscle cramps – before, during or after their races."

Unfortunately, that same advice was not given to those who weren't his patients. In the same trials, a top American sprinter, not being treated by Dr. Pascal, ran the fastest time ever run by a human being in the 100 meter dash. Five days later, he came back to try out for the 200 meter. Just into the race, his leg went into spasm and he fell. The result was a partial muscle tear. This same athlete had won three gold medals at the previous year's World Championships and was favored for three gold medals in Beijing; but with the torn muscle, he had to suspend training. He had healed by the time of the Beijing Games, but having lost the training time, he wasn't in shape to truly compete.

"Cramping is a very serious business for these competitors," said Dr. Pascal. "It doesn't matter how many gold medals you have or how many world records you've set, if you get a muscle cramp, you're going to fall flat on your face and that's the end of it."

High temperatures were also a factor at the Olympic trials and in Beijing, as heat can be a very heavy contributor to cramping. "Heat affects you because you will be sweating more, " Dr. Pascal explained. "As you sweat, you're going to be losing magnesium, which is water soluble. In addition, you'll be sweating out electrolytes, and of course water too. These losses mean that the ratio of calcium to magnesium will be changing in the body; the percentage of calcium will increase; and since calcium is a muscle contractor, the muscles cramp and that's it.

"Additionally, most people think that they have a problem with heat due to the high temperature or humidity," Dr. Pascal added. "This isn't true. Heat builds up in the cells primarily because there are not enough minerals and electrolytes to carry the heat out of the cells. If there are not enough of these elements along with the water, it wouldn't matter how hot it was – the cells would never overheat and people would never get heat stroke, because the minerals would transfer the heat out of the cells."




http://www.calmnatural.com/nutrition-world-class-athletes

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