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I swear I must have broken something, the scar tissue lump is so big and the pain is right in the middle of the back of my hand. Going to MIR (military doctor) tomorrow, probably so he can prescribe ibuprofen. Fuck.TL Health and Fitness Initiative 2011 - Page 576
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
I swear I must have broken something, the scar tissue lump is so big and the pain is right in the middle of the back of my hand. Going to MIR (military doctor) tomorrow, probably so he can prescribe ibuprofen. Fuck. | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
On September 13 2011 11:10 Emporio wrote: I haven't really read anything here except the OP, because I've been remotivated to start exercising and improving my health, and I was wordering what the benefits of cardio are. I've always thought cardio was the best method for weight loss and cardiovascular stamina, but the OP seems to imply it's perfectly fine to do absolutely no cardio at all. Am I wrong in thinking this, or is that simply for the purpose of weight loss and muscle gain? I'd imagine if I want to build endurance for playing sports I would need to do cardio since there's no way I would gain that type of endurance by only lifting. So yeah, I've started up running and gym work again, but because it has been so long since I ever really did any physical exertion, my stamina is pretty atrocious. I can really only run about 3/4 mile before getting completely out of breath and my strength is severly lacking. I have found my current maxes right now, but I don't know how fast to push increases on on either regimen. Thanks guys in advance. There are lots of guys here who say that cardio is not necessary at all and they are way more fit than I am from what they say, but my PT tells me to do 10 min of cardio before we lift (an easy pace mile for me). I don't know the science behind his reasoning but I do find that it sets the pace for the rest of my workout and gets me into the swing of things. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On September 13 2011 11:10 Emporio wrote: I haven't really read anything here except the OP, because I've been remotivated to start exercising and improving my health, and I was wordering what the benefits of cardio are. I've always thought cardio was the best method for weight loss and cardiovascular stamina, but the OP seems to imply it's perfectly fine to do absolutely no cardio at all. Am I wrong in thinking this, or is that simply for the purpose of weight loss and muscle gain? I'd imagine if I want to build endurance for playing sports I would need to do cardio since there's no way I would gain that type of endurance by only lifting. So yeah, I've started up running and gym work again, but because it has been so long since I ever really did any physical exertion, my stamina is pretty atrocious. I can really only run about 3/4 mile before getting completely out of breath and my strength is severly lacking. I have found my current maxes right now, but I don't know how fast to push increases on on either regimen. Thanks guys in advance. Interval running provides the required stamina for sports. What traditionally is seen as cardio (low steady jogging) is just good to make you better at that, running slow. Other great tools are rope skipping and kettlebell swings/snatches. | ||
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
On September 13 2011 11:10 Emporio wrote: I haven't really read anything here except the OP, because I've been remotivated to start exercising and improving my health, and I was wordering what the benefits of cardio are. I've always thought cardio was the best method for weight loss and cardiovascular stamina, but the OP seems to imply it's perfectly fine to do absolutely no cardio at all. Am I wrong in thinking this, or is that simply for the purpose of weight loss and muscle gain? I'd imagine if I want to build endurance for playing sports I would need to do cardio since there's no way I would gain that type of endurance by only lifting. So yeah, I've started up running and gym work again, but because it has been so long since I ever really did any physical exertion, my stamina is pretty atrocious. I can really only run about 3/4 mile before getting completely out of breath and my strength is severly lacking. I have found my current maxes right now, but I don't know how fast to push increases on on either regimen. Thanks guys in advance. There is nothing wrong with cardio. It's amazing for weight loss and cardiovascular health. However, if you don't want to do cardio this thread & the OP has other methods of improving your health. Whatever exercise you do is going to help, it comes down to what exercises you WANT to do. Ask yourself what you want and then develop a training regimen, not the other way around. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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shinosai
United States1577 Posts
On September 13 2011 12:37 Froadac wrote: Ate egg. Got reprimanded for high cholesterol. That sucks. Sad. I guess scientific evidence vindicating eggs doesn't help your case at all. | ||
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RemedySC
Canada176 Posts
Squat: 170lbs 3x5 Press: 85lbs 3x5 (second attempt, blasted threw it!) PClean: 125lbs 5x3 Chin-up: 6-6-5 Need to keep eating a lot and drink more water. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
Victory. | ||
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jjhchsc2
Korea (South)2393 Posts
Age: 16 || Height: 171cm 5feet 7inch || Weight: 137lbs/63kg Starting Date: 13/9/11 || Goal Date: 13/12/11 Weight goals -- right now i am 63 kg with about 13%bf i think. goal- 65kg with 9% bf Training goals -- broader shoulders,handstand for 15-20 seconds and good lower body strength to L-sit and to do pole freezes. current lifts. Bar dips 3x5 chinups 1-1-1-2-2 Vertical knee raises with 5 kg 12-12-12 Nutrition goals -- Get enough protein everyday, abs and good health. Misc goals -- gold--->high diamond or master league terran. Better and faster at basketball | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On September 13 2011 14:05 jjhchsc2 wrote: Nutrition goals -- Get enough protein everyday, abs and good health. Putting abs under nutrition. We know a smart person when we see one :DDD | ||
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Steeped
Canada87 Posts
Back squats-160lbs, reset from 210lbs deadlift- 225lbs 1x5 245lbs 1x3 255lbs 1x3 (255lbs is my PR, want to break it soon) Front squats- 135lbs 3x5 calf raises- 200lbs 3 sets to failure leg extensions/laying leg curls- 190lbs 3-failure/170lbs 3-failure Hack squat- 230lbs 6x6 Single leg squats- 50lbs 3x6 Was a lower body day and it felt great, by the end of it my legs were soooo weak. Tomorrow is heavy upper body and cant wait to do some bench PRs. | ||
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Earll
Norway847 Posts
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jjhchsc2
Korea (South)2393 Posts
On September 13 2011 14:19 Froadac wrote: Putting abs under nutrition. We know a smart person when we see one :DDD hahaha. all thanks to eshlow and TLHF. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4735 Posts
Traditional cardio training is, as far as I know, slow long steady-paced activity at 60-70% of maximal heart-rate, so for most of us that is something like 120-140bpm. When I think of cardio, I ONLY think of long-easy sessions on some fitness-machine in a gym. Anyone who is in at least decent shape and does that kind of exercise should instantly know why this is ineffective... because it is fucking easy and does not take much out of you. You climb on the elliptical, you do 40minutes of 130bpm, you jump down. Now you sweat a little, but all in all, you won't feel much different than before. This kind of training is in no way taxing, it is something I do when I have an active rest day, when I am beaten up from the other workouts of the week but want something to do, or out of sheer boredom. But when I go running outisde, I never think of myself doing "cardio", I think "I am gonna go run now". If you run at a steady 130bpm and never change pace, you are just a boring runner in a boring neighboorhood. It means you have no hills there, there are no groups of people that you have to pass by through sprinting, or streets you have to cross fast, or just never feel the urge to go a little bit faster. Besides that, the difference between running outside, breathing fresh air and actually moving your body, and standing on a machine in some sticky gym should be pretty obvious. (sidenote: For anyone who is trying to lose more than 10kg, anyone who is really overweight and not just unsatisfied, running is a fantastic tool to lose weight. Nothing ever trumps nutrition though) The arguments for swimming should be pretty similar, who besides an actual competitive swimmer, would go 50-lanes with the same technic and the same speed day in and day out? And any actual sport you play (football, basketball, (table)-tennis, rugby) is not doing cardio either, it is constant stop-and-go and on top of that actually a fun activity. So really, what is left that classifies as cardio for me is boring easy gym machines. And again, 3 minutes of thinking for yourself and you know why they are ineffective, because it is NOT HARD and there are no free-meals. | ||
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
On September 13 2011 14:55 Earll wrote: So I am just sort of curious, to get muscle definition I need to lose bodyfat, but how am I supposed to go about losing bodyfat? At the moment I am at the start of SS and am supposed to eat a shitton to gain muscle, which I am fine with and will do my best to do. But will this also lead to me gaining body fat, or will my size and muscle go up and my body fat decrease? Am I supposed to just F- my bodyfat for now, gain some muscle (How much muscle?) And then later try to go down in body fat %? How would I go about doing that when the time comes then? yes, if you eat big, you will get bigger as well. some increase in bodyfat is gonna happen. how much really depends on how much you eat. if you arent concerned with big numbers you could just eat a little less which will minimize fat-gain but also severely limit your progress after the first few weeks. | ||
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BouBou.865
Netherlands814 Posts
On September 13 2011 11:10 Emporio wrote: I haven't really read anything here except the OP, because I've been remotivated to start exercising and improving my health, and I was wordering what the benefits of cardio are. I've always thought cardio was the best method for weight loss and cardiovascular stamina, but the OP seems to imply it's perfectly fine to do absolutely no cardio at all. Am I wrong in thinking this, or is that simply for the purpose of weight loss and muscle gain? I'd imagine if I want to build endurance for playing sports I would need to do cardio since there's no way I would gain that type of endurance by only lifting. So yeah, I've started up running and gym work again, but because it has been so long since I ever really did any physical exertion, my stamina is pretty atrocious. I can really only run about 3/4 mile before getting completely out of breath and my strength is severly lacking. I have found my current maxes right now, but I don't know how fast to push increases on on either regimen. Thanks guys in advance. Consensus here is that HIIT>cardio for conditioning, HIIT+diet (or just fixing your diet)>everything else for weight loss. In the book Starting Strength is everything you need to get stronger  | ||
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Earll
Norway847 Posts
On September 13 2011 16:46 Zafrumi wrote: yes, if you eat big, you will get bigger as well. some increase in bodyfat is gonna happen. how much really depends on how much you eat. if you arent concerned with big numbers you could just eat a little less which will minimize fat-gain but also severely limit your progress after the first few weeks. so lets say in the future when I am 5-10 kg heavier or whatever and a lot stronger, I should then start working more towards losing body fat then or? how would I go about doing that then? | ||
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jjhchsc2
Korea (South)2393 Posts
On September 13 2011 17:54 Earll wrote: so lets say in the future when I am 5-10 kg heavier or whatever and a lot stronger, I should then start working more towards losing body fat then or? how would I go about doing that then? you lose weight when you want to lose weight. if you want to lose weight- purely fixing your diert ie cutting carbs and calories will help you lose weight. for calories just eat less than your bmr and that alone should help you lose weight. | ||
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Earll
Norway847 Posts
On September 13 2011 18:27 jjhchsc2 wrote: you lose weight when you want to lose weight. if you want to lose weight- purely fixing your diert ie cutting carbs and calories will help you lose weight. for calories just eat less than your bmr and that alone should help you lose weight. I don't want to lose weight though. I am going to gain weight now first, and then later I guess I want to keep my weight and muscleces\increase muscles, but get rid of body fat %? | ||
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
its not rocket science! eating more than BMR = gain weight. eating less = lose weight. | ||
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