TL Health and Fitness Initiative 2011 - Page 575

On September 13 2011 08:15 dudeman001 wrote:

Eggs, some bacon, ham or sausage. Omelets are the bomb. You could probably cut out a lot of grains from your diet if you're looking to eat healthier. If you can't go without em, try limiting yourself to one or two days a week where you eat some bread, but remember that it's eat, not gorge.

On September 13 2011 08:40 Soliduok wrote:
One thing that often deters me from working out (I used to workout very regularly in highschool) is that I hate the weakness I feel afterwards. You know that shaky feeling in your arm when you just try to lift a glass of water to your mouth?

Is there something specific causing this? Do I need to stretch more or hydrate more?

On September 13 2011 08:55 DimmuKlok wrote:

I'll keep asking until my doc answers. I think the reason she was concerned was she thought that the back needed to curve to evenly support the weight of the bar, similarly to a fishing rod bending, but obviously not to that extent. But you can imagine if a fishing rod was forced to be straight near the bottom, it would put a lot of stress right below that point. I know you're supposed to keep your back straight so I'm not sure if what she's worried about even takes place.

Just fyi, I have 8 vertebrae fused. I can't remember specifically where the fusion starts but I'm pretty sure it's mid lumbar. I wasn't even going to ask the forum and just ask my doctor, but like I said before, they haven't replyed and I got tired of waiting.

On September 13 2011 09:10 barkles wrote:
Did anyone else notice how bullshit the testimonial about how ditching cardio will help you lose weight faster is? Not because of the guy himself, he's a champ for being so dedicated, but the message that is being supported by the argument (cardio<<<weightlifting for losing weight) is flawed.

After losing 30 pounds(!) doing only cardio, he noticed it was harder to lose weight. He was reaching a plateau, since I imagine he wasn't varying his workout routine very much, except possibly to add more of the same. Anyone who has ever been a serious athlete in any area can tell you that doing the same thing over and over without change will yield diminishing returns. True progress is made by varying workout type, duration, and intensity. He didn't see a big jump in results because weights are so much better than cardio, but simply because he forced his body to adapt to something new when he switched to lifting weights. The same thing would have happened if he had switched to swimming (from the elliptical workouts he started on). This is the reason that workout programs like P90X work so well for many people: a constantly changing workout routine.

Those people who are serious about bodybuilding/powerlifting will know this too: doing exactly the same workouts for more than 4-8 weeks is a very good way to make very little progress.

A couple of other concerns I had about the OP, maybe people will help clear these things up for me:

1. The nutritional guide suggests eliminating all dairy from one's diet. For adolescent women (and in fact, many men) this seems like a really, really, fucking stupid idea, since most already struggle to get adequate calcium. I didn't see any mention of calcium supplements anywhere, but even so, getting one's calcium naturally (ie from dairy products) is more efficient and healthier.

2. Should there not be some mention of the dangers of "bonking" or "hitting the wall" made in the OP? Low carbohydrate intake (as is advocated here) throughout the day combined with a workout in the late afternoon or early evening can easily leave the body without enough muscle glycogen to get all the way through the workout. Bonking, for those lucky enough to have not experienced it, is when muscles run out of ready-to-burn fuel in the midst of exercise, blood sugar is low, and the body needs to burn fat or muscle to make sugar to send to the muscles that need it. Out of exercise this process is fine (and obviously losing fat by only lifting weights depends on it!), but during exercise this can make the person exercising feel (among other things) light-headed and nauseated, two things you do not want to be while lifting heavy weights.


Also, I'm sure this has been stated many times before in this thread, but since I am always meeting people who don't believe this I will state it again: the only reason to EVER start a low-carb diet is to lose weight. Anyone interested in actually ENHANCING PERFORMANCE should eat a balanced diet in which many of the calories should come from carbohydrates (~50% for strength athletes depending on which part of their training season they are in, and 60-75% for endurance athletes).

On September 13 2011 09:26 shinosai wrote:
Teamliquid, I had a serious pain moment today and I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to fix it. I've been trying to do pullups for a while now, and a friend suggested I tried deadhanging. So for the first time I tried some deadhangs, and after 40 seconds I let go. When I dropped down the front part of my feet felt INTENSE pain. So I tried again and tried to land on my heel, hoping that I wouldn't feel such ridiculous pain in the front part of my feet, only it was even worse.

This never happens when I just do pullups, only when I deadhang afterward. It doesn't make any sense to me, I'm just wondering if there's anyway I can land without the pain, or do I need a platform?

It's really quite confusing since there shouldn't be that much difference in the drop from a pull up and a deadhang, but apparently there is for me.

On September 13 2011 09:31 phyre112 wrote:


Is it possible that you're relaxing your legs when you drop from the deadhang? Most of the muscles in your body would be tense at the end of a regular pullup, but from a deadhang that's not necessarily the case. If you're relaxing your muscles, then they aren't in proper position to take the shock from the impact of you landing. Instead, that impact is taken by your bones, connective tissues and nerves... Which hurts. Maybe consider that the next time you're getting down? I hope it helps.

On September 13 2011 08:38 phyre112 wrote:


This. Omelette with some green pepper, mushroom, onion, and bacon on the side. Two glasses of milk - best breakfast EVER.

Just got done a ROUGH day. Went to the gym, 215 3x5 squats, 145 2x5 + 150 1x5 + 160 1x2 bench, 110 3x5 push press, and 4x7 chin ups. Didn't feel a thing in my shoulder. Then I ate (probably only around 1300 kcal) and went to rugby, where we did conditioning for an hour, then worked on tackling and then tackling in a game situation. Turns out I have pretty good instincts for defense, not so good for offense, and my execution on both needs some work. I did get the general idea to "take the guy down, then run him and his team (ruck) over so that we repossess the ball." Being a forward is pretty damn cool, and being faster/harder to take down than I look (thanks strength training) means I did break through the other team's line a couple times. Gotta work on my acceleration and my change of direction though. Anyone have tips?

Also my tackling needs work, especially at my position... but that's just the effects of never having played a full contact sport before this. It'll get better with practice.

On September 13 2011 09:10 barkles wrote:
Did anyone else notice how bullshit the testimonial about how ditching cardio will help you lose weight faster is? Not because of the guy himself, he's a champ for being so dedicated, but the message that is being supported by the argument (cardio<<<weightlifting for losing weight) is flawed.

After losing 30 pounds(!) doing only cardio, he noticed it was harder to lose weight. He was reaching a plateau, since I imagine he wasn't varying his workout routine very much, except possibly to add more of the same. Anyone who has ever been a serious athlete in any area can tell you that doing the same thing over and over without change will yield diminishing returns. True progress is made by varying workout type, duration, and intensity. He didn't see a big jump in results because weights are so much better than cardio, but simply because he forced his body to adapt to something new when he switched to lifting weights. The same thing would have happened if he had switched to swimming (from the elliptical workouts he started on). This is the reason that workout programs like P90X work so well for many people: a constantly changing workout routine.

Those people who are serious about bodybuilding/powerlifting will know this too: doing exactly the same workouts for more than 4-8 weeks is a very good way to make very little progress.

A couple of other concerns I had about the OP, maybe people will help clear these things up for me:

1. The nutritional guide suggests eliminating all dairy from one's diet. For adolescent women (and in fact, many men) this seems like a really, really, fucking stupid idea, since most already struggle to get adequate calcium. I didn't see any mention of calcium supplements anywhere, but even so, getting one's calcium naturally (ie from dairy products) is more efficient and healthier.

2. Should there not be some mention of the dangers of "bonking" or "hitting the wall" made in the OP? Low carbohydrate intake (as is advocated here) throughout the day combined with a workout in the late afternoon or early evening can easily leave the body without enough muscle glycogen to get all the way through the workout. Bonking, for those lucky enough to have not experienced it, is when muscles run out of ready-to-burn fuel in the midst of exercise, blood sugar is low, and the body needs to burn fat or muscle to make sugar to send to the muscles that need it. Out of exercise this process is fine (and obviously losing fat by only lifting weights depends on it!), but during exercise this can make the person exercising feel (among other things) light-headed and nauseated, two things you do not want to be while lifting heavy weights.


Also, I'm sure this has been stated many times before in this thread, but since I am always meeting people who don't believe this I will state it again: the only reason to EVER start a low-carb diet is to lose weight. Anyone interested in actually ENHANCING PERFORMANCE should eat a balanced diet in which many of the calories should come from carbohydrates (~50% for strength athletes depending on which part of their training season they are in, and 60-75% for endurance athletes).