TL Health and Fitness Initiative 2011 - Page 342

On June 09 2011 02:10 Ravencruiser wrote:
Progress update:

As much as I glow over the benefits of SS, I'm still uncertain about squats. I actually consulted with several physicians and friends that are medical students, their opinion being that squats obviously put enormous strain on one's legs and is a probable cause for stunted growth. I'm going to be safe rather than sorry and wait another year or so before I consider squats and other lower body work into my routine.

With that said, I'm happy my body has a natural gift for shaving fat. I've been on a 4 apples, 2 bowls of cereal, 1 lbs of fatty chicken diet and 2 servings of protein powder diet for the past week. Combined with a 2KM swim daily and just a simple upper body routine I perform at home (weighted push-ups/sit-ups, bicep/tricep/chest exercises), I've noticed major fat loss in my stomach area and increased bicep/chest circumference while maintaining more or less the same weight @ 140 lbs.

I would recommend to others (who wants to shed fat and build muscles where it counts for the beach - upper body) to at least attempt my method; lots of cardio, diet @ ~10% carbs/50% protein/40% fat, and an exercise routine focused on where you would like the muscle growth to occur.

On June 09 2011 00:01 AoN.DimSum wrote:



Do you have any articles for overtraining? How does someone burn out?

@decaf thanks for links.

On June 09 2011 02:10 Ravencruiser wrote:
Progress update:

As much as I glow over the benefits of SS, I'm still uncertain about squats. I actually consulted with several physicians and friends that are medical students, their opinion being that squats obviously put enormous strain on one's legs and is a probable cause for stunted growth. I'm going to be safe rather than sorry and wait another year or so before I consider squats and other lower body work into my routine.

With that said, I'm happy my body has a natural gift for shaving fat. I've been on a 4 apples, 2 bowls of cereal, 1 lbs of fatty chicken diet and 2 servings of protein powder diet for the past week. Combined with a 2KM swim daily and just a simple upper body routine I perform at home (weighted push-ups/sit-ups, bicep/tricep/chest exercises), I've noticed major fat loss in my stomach area and increased bicep/chest circumference while maintaining more or less the same weight @ 140 lbs.

I would recommend to others (who wants to shed fat and build muscles where it counts for the beach - upper body) to at least attempt my method; lots of cardio, diet @ ~10% carbs/50% protein/40% fat, and an exercise routine focused on where you would like the muscle growth to occur

On June 09 2011 02:39 eshlow wrote:


1. Lifting does not stunt growth. Do not beleive this myth even when it is perpetuated by health professionals.

No studies have conclusively shown anything of the sort (and actually the increases in anabolic hormones from weight training will have a positive effect on growth in general).

Why would you consult doctors/med students on something that is not in their area of expertise I don't know.

Also,
http://stronglifts.com/does-weight-lifting-stunt-growth/

2. Get rid of teh cereal.

That diet is not 10% carbs. Put it in fitday and you'll probably find out it's like 40% carbs (and like 1200 calories max).

You're losing weight because you're not eating anything.

3. You should not be trying to lose weigh at 140 lbs.

4. Lift heavy weights and eat more.

On June 09 2011 02:34 eshlow wrote:


http://sportsmedicine.about.com/cs/overtraining/a/aa062499a.htm

Generally, what happened to me when I crashed off the deep end my energy levels went to CRAP. I had to take multiple naps throughout the day, and general feelings of lethargy.

Some of the symptoms of overtraining listed above as well. You will know if you crash off teh deep end though you feel like crap and are tired all the time in general.

On June 09 2011 02:47 AoN.DimSum wrote:


I read about when people max out everyday (bulgarian method) they would eventually go through the "dark times" which is when their lifts go to shit. Eventually they would just keep training and they would be fine again. Here it is:
http://www.averagebroz.com/ABG/Q_&_A/Entries/2010/5/28_Central_nervous_system.html

I was wondering what you think about it.

@ravencrusier, with your reasoning, the enormous strain when you bench(or weighted pushups) will make your arms shorter. Is this correct?

On June 09 2011 02:59 eshlow wrote:


You have ot remember that these programs (both the Russians, Bulgarians, and Chinese now) throw tens thousands of lifters into the meat grinders.

The ones that have the recovery capacity to handle it (even with the dark times) will come out on top and be Olympic champs or world record holders. That's like the top .01-.02%. The rest of us will inevitably fail and wreck ourselves with injuries or overtraining or whatever else have you.

So yes, high frequency high intensity can work. For most people it won't and you'll end up overtrained or worse yet injured and out of training completely.

Personally, for those motivated I think it's worth a shot but be very very very wary about listening to your body both in and outside of training sessions and if you start to develop overuse injuries you should back off.

On June 09 2011 03:03 AoN.DimSum wrote:



ok thanks. I only train 5 times a week so I dont think it will happen anytime soon haha