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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
June 08 2011 13:05 GMT
#6801
On June 08 2011 21:50 Necosarius wrote:
One thing I hate about summer in northern Sweden is that the sun is up 24/7. I can't sleep I need my bedroom to be almost pitch black and cool to be able to sleep, now it's either too hot or too bright. I have slept 6 hours in the last two days


I'm having those problems aswell. The Icelandic summer sun is pretty much up all day. Too hot for me is anything above 10°C lol...

Melantonin helps though.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-08 13:16:05
June 08 2011 13:06 GMT
#6802
I have a question, how to improve on squats faster , i do alot of skiing and a bit of bike riding(to school etc) I can bench press right now 55kg, but i find it hard to do my sets on 45kg squats on 5x5 workout.

Any advice? Should i step up my bench presses in 5x5 workout or leave them the same?

I weight 95-100(hopefully in the future)kg, so i want to press at least that in a year or a year and a half!
"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
June 08 2011 13:25 GMT
#6803
eat more, ski less.
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
DavidMcF
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom189 Posts
June 08 2011 13:47 GMT
#6804
On June 08 2011 15:37 Advocado wrote:
Well, second training on Leangains ended up with me completing nothing but press and just leaving the fucking weightroom in a fit. Couldn't squat 70kg, couldn't powerclean 40kg. Sigh


That's weird, I train better fasted I think

:D
Snapplecakes
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway78 Posts
June 08 2011 13:57 GMT
#6805
On June 08 2011 15:37 Advocado wrote:
Well, second training on Leangains ended up with me completing nothing but press and just leaving the fucking weightroom in a fit. Couldn't squat 70kg, couldn't powerclean 40kg. Sigh



how long have you been on leangains? should let your body adapt to the concept of fasting before you start working out fasted (first week was really hard for me).. and ALOT of it is psychological imo
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4732 Posts
June 08 2011 14:07 GMT
#6806
On June 08 2011 22:06 inimenesc wrote:
I have a question, how to improve on squats faster , i do alot of skiing and a bit of bike riding(to school etc) I can bench press right now 55kg, but i find it hard to do my sets on 45kg squats on 5x5 workout.

Any advice? Should i step up my bench presses in 5x5 workout or leave them the same?

I weight 95-100(hopefully in the future)kg, so i want to press at least that in a year or a year and a half!


I don't quite understand you... you want to improve your squat faster, ok, but what has that to do with stepping up your bench press anyway? And what do you even mean with that sentence,could you do even more with bench press and holding back?

From your numbers I assume you are at the beginning of your lifting career and you are doing Stronglift 5x5, is that correct?

If you are a normal human being, your squat will overtake your bench press, rather sooner than later. You don't need to force anything. If you do skiing and biking, and 5x5 on top of that, your body has quiet some work to do to recover from that. It will probably need some weeks plus lots of food and sleep to get accustumed to that. You could of course just stop skiing and biking, but that's just stupid if you enjoy that, so you just have to accept that everything takes a little more time.

But to clarify, what you are doing with your bench and with your squat, these things have nothing to do with each other (besides that you simply follow the programm and always squat before bench). Don't compare them with each other, it doesn't matter. If you want to press at least 100kg in a year, the most important thing is consistency. Carry your ass to the gym every week and be happy with small improvements, if you force bench press, you get injured.

And don't take this the wrong way, but I have to ask... you weight nearly 100kg and struggle with 5x5 45kg squats... are you sure you are giving it your all? For a sportif person (skiing, biking), that just sounds super weak.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
June 08 2011 14:12 GMT
#6807
On June 08 2011 23:07 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 22:06 inimenesc wrote:
I have a question, how to improve on squats faster , i do alot of skiing and a bit of bike riding(to school etc) I can bench press right now 55kg, but i find it hard to do my sets on 45kg squats on 5x5 workout.

Any advice? Should i step up my bench presses in 5x5 workout or leave them the same?

I weight 95-100(hopefully in the future)kg, so i want to press at least that in a year or a year and a half!

And don't take this the wrong way, but I have to ask... you weight nearly 100kg and struggle with 5x5 45kg squats... are you sure you are giving it your all? For a sportif person (skiing, biking), that just sounds super weak.

Yeah I don't get this part either. I am an avid skier and cyclist as well and when I began lifting I was weighing 65 and my starting squat was 50. Maybe you are just doing it wrong, check out the material in the OP for proper technique.
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inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
June 08 2011 14:19 GMT
#6808
I think my feet are weak

But by stepping up bench i meant i skip few weeks in bench press and continue normally from there.
While skiing i normally push myself foward with only my upperbody, feet do very little job there.
I am quite sure i am giving my all as my feet start hurting when i do last rep of the set. My upper body doesnt just fit with my feet right now then. Going to change that in 1-2 months.

But i am never stopping my skiing/biking, i love them and i do them for my cardio, 3x2h skiing is great cardio + add 1-1.5h of biking that comes from going to school and to basketballcourt.

5x5 at start yeah.
"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
DavidMcF
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom189 Posts
June 08 2011 14:20 GMT
#6809
Sounds like you just straight up need to squat a hell of a lot more
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4732 Posts
June 08 2011 14:42 GMT
#6810
Well, as I said, don't skip bench press just because you are strong at it, just normal progression. Every workout counts.

Regarding squats, I obviously cannot know, but it sounds like you are doing something wrong. That weight should not be challenging at all, and your "feet are weak"? I guess you mean legs, because besides your stance, your feet should actually be the least of your problems while squatting, they basically don't do anything (exaggeration of course).
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
June 08 2011 14:44 GMT
#6811
Yeah i ment legs.

I will continue and do a little status report in 1-2weeks and then lets see.
"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 08 2011 15:01 GMT
#6812
On June 08 2011 10:01 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 09:26 AoN.DimSum wrote:
awesome let us know your progress jupiter! I have been reading about high frequency training, I have been trying to put some of the philosophies in my training


Don't burn out.... that's what happend to me.

If you overtrain e.g. crash and burn.. just straight up rest for 2-4 weeks.

Still dealing with the effects of continuing to workout for about a year after crash and burning about 1.5 years after that. It sucks.



Do you have any articles for overtraining? How does someone burn out?




@decaf thanks for links.
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MajinMojo
Profile Joined October 2010
266 Posts
June 08 2011 15:01 GMT
#6813
On June 08 2011 22:05 sJarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 21:50 Necosarius wrote:
One thing I hate about summer in northern Sweden is that the sun is up 24/7. I can't sleep I need my bedroom to be almost pitch black and cool to be able to sleep, now it's either too hot or too bright. I have slept 6 hours in the last two days


I'm having those problems aswell. The Icelandic summer sun is pretty much up all day. Too hot for me is anything above 10°C lol...

Melantonin helps though.


Fuck I wish I lived in Iceland. I don't do hot weather well at all. And right now it's 100°F where I live and I feel like dying. Not looking forward to today's workout in this heat in my stifling garage.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-08 15:23:16
June 08 2011 15:21 GMT
#6814
On June 08 2011 23:44 inimenesc wrote:
Yeah i ment legs.

I will continue and do a little status report in 1-2weeks and then lets see.


skiing is a very intense exercise for your legs so maybe you are just tired during your workouts.

just post your whole workout routine, your recreational activities, diet and sleeping patterns here. if we dont know what exactly you are doing we can only speculate as to what is actually wrong (if there even is anything wrong)
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-08 15:42:01
June 08 2011 15:39 GMT
#6815
Well, here we go:
+ Show Spoiler +

Monday: 5x5 workout
Tuesday: 2h of skiing(30km)
Wendesday: 5x5 workout
Thrusday: 2h of skiing(30km)
Friday: 5x5 workout
Saturday: 2h of skiing(30km)
Sunday: REST
Sometimes basketball, it can come on any day. We play some 3h normally. I usually skip my skiing that day, but not 5x5 workout(its done before)
Eating: what i can when i can, but i dont like eating at the mornings too much, breakfast at 12.00am usually.
Sleep: 7-8h atleast, the gravitational field is quite hard for me :D


I guess tehniques can be improved, i will change my gym in 1 month i think. Right now i just use the ability to go free, but the gym isnt ready for 100kg benchpresses and 150kg squats.

And with skiing...i push myself foward with crosscountry style and both hands at the same time, dont know the tehniques name in english, but legs dont do that much work while doing that, upperbody.
"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
June 08 2011 15:41 GMT
#6816
fuck.

Decaf's pictures really made me hungry T_T;
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Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2096 Posts
June 08 2011 15:54 GMT
#6817
When starting from scratch with handlifting, is 2.5kg in each hand too much to begin with; or whats your guys input on basic handlifting start ?
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Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
June 08 2011 16:02 GMT
#6818
On June 08 2011 22:57 Snapplecakes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 15:37 Advocado wrote:
Well, second training on Leangains ended up with me completing nothing but press and just leaving the fucking weightroom in a fit. Couldn't squat 70kg, couldn't powerclean 40kg. Sigh



how long have you been on leangains? should let your body adapt to the concept of fasting before you start working out fasted (first week was really hard for me).. and ALOT of it is psychological imo


Basically just started this week.
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Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
June 08 2011 16:15 GMT
#6819
you know what guys, apparently idra has been working out a lot lately. maybe have him play for us in the TL community war! :d
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
June 08 2011 16:24 GMT
#6820
On June 09 2011 00:39 inimenesc wrote:
Well, here we go:
+ Show Spoiler +

Monday: 5x5 workout
Tuesday: 2h of skiing(30km)
Wendesday: 5x5 workout
Thrusday: 2h of skiing(30km)
Friday: 5x5 workout
Saturday: 2h of skiing(30km)
Sunday: REST
Sometimes basketball, it can come on any day. We play some 3h normally. I usually skip my skiing that day, but not 5x5 workout(its done before)
Eating: what i can when i can, but i dont like eating at the mornings too much, breakfast at 12.00am usually.
Sleep: 7-8h atleast, the gravitational field is quite hard for me :D


I guess tehniques can be improved, i will change my gym in 1 month i think. Right now i just use the ability to go free, but the gym isnt ready for 100kg benchpresses and 150kg squats.

And with skiing...i push myself foward with crosscountry style and both hands at the same time, dont know the tehniques name in english, but legs dont do that much work while doing that, upperbody.

Well there is your problem. Zero rest. Cross country skiing is pretty intense leg work. It might not feel like it that much if you are a trained skier but it won't give your legs the rest needed to recover from the squat workout.
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