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On May 28 2011 12:28 phyre112 wrote:
Shinosai, you're right. There is VERY little consensus in the world of nutrition. It seems that whatever point you wish to make, you can find studies supporting it, and just as easily find them disproving it. The majority of us in this thread have found our way to a paleo diet (more or less - most of us have added milk to "paleo"), and it makes those who stick to it long enough to figure a few things out about how their own body runs feel very healthy. I think that's really what it comes down to. Try things, and if they make you feel healthier, stick to them. For me, paleo with milk feels good. I'm never hungry, and as long as I get enough vegetables/fruits/potatoes (aka carbs) I don't feel tired either.
some people eat grains; some people only eat whole grains. Some of us eat a lot of fruit, some of us drink protein shakes. Friends of mine at school who are into lifting swear by lunch meats, especially because the alternative is often skipping a meal. Find what makes you feel good, and what works for your situation. Really, your universal rules are the most "correct" things you're going to find - avoid things that are processed, and make sure to get your veggies. The rest is up to you.
That is pretty much what I was getting at, yea. To be honest since cutting out the processed junk (poptarts and pizza products mostly, but also hamburgers and soda) I have felt a lot better. In fact for several years I had clinical depression, and a general lack of energy. The farther away I got from processed things, the more energy I had and the less depression. Paleo a cure for depression? Maybe, heh. Point is, I've probably been over thinking the paleo diet. I'm feeling great right now, so what if I eat a turkey sandwich?
Perhaps I should be focusing less on what is universally agreed upon as good, and instead focus on avoiding what is (nearly) universally agreed on as bad: Processed food and drink, especially ones heavy in sugar. There might not be a consensus on what is healthy but there does seem to be one on certain unhealthy foods.
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Just curious. Has anyone here had an eating disorder? I've had some problems over the last year that I don't really know how to characterize.
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On May 28 2011 12:40 shinosai wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 12:28 phyre112 wrote:
Shinosai, you're right. There is VERY little consensus in the world of nutrition. It seems that whatever point you wish to make, you can find studies supporting it, and just as easily find them disproving it. The majority of us in this thread have found our way to a paleo diet (more or less - most of us have added milk to "paleo"), and it makes those who stick to it long enough to figure a few things out about how their own body runs feel very healthy. I think that's really what it comes down to. Try things, and if they make you feel healthier, stick to them. For me, paleo with milk feels good. I'm never hungry, and as long as I get enough vegetables/fruits/potatoes (aka carbs) I don't feel tired either.
some people eat grains; some people only eat whole grains. Some of us eat a lot of fruit, some of us drink protein shakes. Friends of mine at school who are into lifting swear by lunch meats, especially because the alternative is often skipping a meal. Find what makes you feel good, and what works for your situation. Really, your universal rules are the most "correct" things you're going to find - avoid things that are processed, and make sure to get your veggies. The rest is up to you. That is pretty much what I was getting at, yea. To be honest since cutting out the processed junk (poptarts and pizza products mostly, but also hamburgers and soda) I have felt a lot better. In fact for several years I had clinical depression, and a general lack of energy. The farther away I got from processed things, the more energy I had and the less depression. Paleo a cure for depression? Maybe, heh. Point is, I've probably been over thinking the paleo diet. I'm feeling great right now, so what if I eat a turkey sandwich? Perhaps I should be focusing less on what is universally agreed upon as good, and instead focus on avoiding what is (nearly) universally agreed on as bad: Processed food and drink, especially ones heavy in sugar. There might not be a consensus on what is healthy but there does seem to be one on certain unhealthy foods.
As far as controlling depression and overall mood, I've looked into foods and supplements that have been observed to block cortisol. So far I've included in my diet: Onion Juice in addition to Quercitin supplements, Vitamin D, Grape Seed Extract and more berries in general. Also the neuro Transmitter GABA helps but I don't know how that is derived from actual food.
Some doctors have experimented with mega-Doses of Niacin to treat depression and have reported positive results.
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On May 28 2011 12:57 Dalguno wrote:
Just curious. Has anyone here had an eating disorder? I've had some problems over the last year that I don't really know how to characterize.
I wouldn't call what i used to do a disorder, but basically i just "wanted" to eat. I could refrain from eating, but there a general "want" if you get what i mean.
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thedeadhaji
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On May 28 2011 08:14 Release wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 15:02 thedeadhaji wrote:On May 27 2011 14:52 Release wrote:
I plan to try and go to the gym at least once a day over the summer break but i have no idea which contract is best or how the monthly contract works.
The gym i plan to go to is the 24 hour fitness on showers drive.
They have a $32/month with $63 entry fee (says first and last months dues)
and a 3 month $150 pan.
Personally, i think the 150 is better because 150<159.
Also, do any of you guy take protein powders, etc? lol Mtn View? Fwiw I go to the SuperSport nextdoors on weekends  How much do you pay?
$1000 for 3 years = $27.78 per month.
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On May 28 2011 12:57 Dalguno wrote:
Just curious. Has anyone here had an eating disorder? I've had some problems over the last year that I don't really know how to characterize.
Yeah, i want to eat 6k calories a day but its very difficult.
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thedeadhaji
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On May 28 2011 08:47 Cambium wrote:
Meh
Squat:
3-4-2 @ 275 lb
Really surprised at this since I cleared 270 so easily last session; maybe because I went jogging yesterday?
Press:
5-4-4 @ 135 lb
Improvement from 3-4-3 last time.
Clean:
155 lb x 3 x 5
I've been practising form at 135, and today decided to move it up to 155, cleared it really easily and felt really great :D
Nice squats! 
On May 28 2011 01:12 funkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 00:55 GumThief wrote:On May 27 2011 14:05 thedeadhaji wrote:On May 27 2011 13:34 GumThief wrote:
what ever happened to My dad can beat up your dad? You punks get a little 1inch bicep and start to belittle your pops??
Well my dads over 9 fucking feet tall with bricks for fists, a heart of a lion, as cunning as a fox, and could probably bench over 9,000 but he's too fast I can't even see it -it looks like hes just laying there he says hes really doing it and i believe him because my dads the best dad ever.
Side note- really starting to enjoy the overhead press. Improving technique and just finished off 150x5x5 feels good feels great Plz tell me about OH Press form. I'm all ears. Well for me personally I wasn't keeping a straight bar path. Just had to focus on getting my head out of the way and push through it as opposed to around it. And just really squeezing my back and tri to finish it off. Im no expert but it's worked for me!!! squeeze your gut too. shit works wonders. and breathe. and scream shit if you can't. gogo.
Will do this on sunday!!
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On May 28 2011 13:47 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 12:57 Dalguno wrote:
Just curious. Has anyone here had an eating disorder? I've had some problems over the last year that I don't really know how to characterize. Yeah, i want to eat 6k calories a day but its very difficult.
Hold on. Like you cant restrain yourself from eating 6k Calories a day, or you cant get to 6k Calories a day (physically)?
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On May 28 2011 15:30 Release wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 13:47 decafchicken wrote:On May 28 2011 12:57 Dalguno wrote:
Just curious. Has anyone here had an eating disorder? I've had some problems over the last year that I don't really know how to characterize. Yeah, i want to eat 6k calories a day but its very difficult. Hold on. Like you cant restrain yourself from eating 6k Calories a day, or you cant get to 6k Calories a day (physically)?
The second one. Decaf is a monster.
Closest I could consider myself to having an "eating disorder" is that I never feel like it's time to have "a meal" - I've got ~6 pounds of hamburger and 3 pounds of chicken frozen in my garage right now, yet I'm constantly eating a can of tuna, some hardboiled eggs, or snacking on carrots. Hard to hit those calorie goals without eating real meals.
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On May 28 2011 15:52 phyre112 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 15:30 Release wrote:On May 28 2011 13:47 decafchicken wrote:On May 28 2011 12:57 Dalguno wrote:
Just curious. Has anyone here had an eating disorder? I've had some problems over the last year that I don't really know how to characterize. Yeah, i want to eat 6k calories a day but its very difficult. Hold on. Like you cant restrain yourself from eating 6k Calories a day, or you cant get to 6k Calories a day (physically)? The second one. Decaf is a monster. Closest I could consider myself to having an "eating disorder" is that I never feel like it's time to have "a meal" - I've got ~6 pounds of hamburger and 3 pounds of chicken frozen in my garage right now, yet I'm constantly eating a can of tuna, some hardboiled eggs, or snacking on carrots. Hard to hit those calorie goals without eating real meals.
One word. CytoGainer
http://www.cytosport.com/products/specialized/cytogainer-powder
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On May 28 2011 15:30 Release wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 13:47 decafchicken wrote:On May 28 2011 12:57 Dalguno wrote:
Just curious. Has anyone here had an eating disorder? I've had some problems over the last year that I don't really know how to characterize. Yeah, i want to eat 6k calories a day but its very difficult. Hold on. Like you cant restrain yourself from eating 6k Calories a day, or you cant get to 6k Calories a day (physically)?
Just to clarify... he's joking about how it's hard to eat that much. Since it's probably easier than looking through this massive thread to quote it, decaf is trying to bulk hardcore, but he's already big and has a full schedule.
I've had eating issues in the past, but you'd probably never be able to tell from how I looked; didn't lose/gain significant weight from it. That was more of a result of depression though, not anything that would fall under eating disorders under the DSM.
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i used to weigh 135 kilo couple of years ago because of depression and general lack of activity.. i ate to feel better (like 80% of obese people).. now i eat clean ffoods and woprkout regularly and dropped over 40 kilo
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On May 28 2011 13:47 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 12:57 Dalguno wrote:
Just curious. Has anyone here had an eating disorder? I've had some problems over the last year that I don't really know how to characterize. Yeah, i want to eat 6k calories a day but its very difficult.
Rippetoe says that you can't get big and strong from eating 3,000 calories a day, and you can't get 6,000 calories a day by eating 100% clean.
Hit your protein goals and then go to KFC, I say.
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today
cleans
2x3 90kg
1x2 100kg failed 3rd rep
deadlift
1x5 160kg (my god dat last rep)
pushpress
1x5 75kg
2x5 70kg (had to go down in weight)
cutting sucks =(
all your lifts drop even though I took EC before lifting
maybe I need to get on dat der sugar packet
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Carl Andersson/ Ohnoes - Age: 18 || Height: 6'1" or 185 || Weight: 141lbs/ 64kg
- Starting Date: 30/05/11 || Goal Date: 20/08/11 (or when summer ends and college starts)
- Weight goals -- 70kg / 154lbs
- Training goals -- 100 kg squat (is this doable in such a sort timeframe?)
- Nutrition goals -- eat moar, mortly clean, but since im skinny eating a lot is more important. Also do semi GOMAD 2-3 litres a day (0,6-0,8 gallons a day)
- Misc goals -- get bigger and stronger than my brother
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I havent been at a gym for the last ~8 months when my gym memebership ended.
Didnt really progress for a long time back then, looking back i did the normal misstakes e.g not resting enough, working out for too long and using mainly machines.
Now i have been reading up on SS and been practicing form the last two weeks until i got done with all my studies . I've read a lot about nutrition in general, paleo and leangains, and im already eating good food, except for grains. So ill try to remove them and eat like fuck + drink as much milk as possible during this summer. My eating habits will probably be frowned upon by my mother, but i'll just ignore her and continue munching as much as possible .
Will post weights after i've done my first workouts
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Just bought 2,5kg of strawberries for 5€. God, I love strawberries.
edit: That's a total of 800 kcal btw 
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So I've been trying out madcow for a couple of weeks ( yeah I know , I said I was going to do texas method ) and I burnt out after todays'(Friday) workout. Failed on my third set. Has anyone have experience with this ?
You have 5 sets , ramping up towards a heavy triple
How much should the increments be between each set? right now I'm using 10lbs as increments I think its too little.
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On May 28 2011 17:54 Snapplecakes wrote:i used to weigh 135 kilo couple of years ago because of depression and general lack of activity.. i ate to feel better (like 80% of obese people).. now i eat clean ffoods and woprkout regularly and dropped over 40 kilo
I applaud you good sir. That's determination.
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On May 28 2011 22:15 kurrysauce wrote:
So I've been trying out madcow for a couple of weeks ( yeah I know , I said I was going to do texas method ) and I burnt out after todays'(Friday) workout. Failed on my third set. Has anyone have experience with this ?
You have 5 sets , ramping up towards a heavy triple
How much should the increments be between each set? right now I'm using 10lbs as increments I think its too little.
That's actually way too little. The increments should actually be more like around 10%. So for example:
60%x5
70%x5
80%x5
90%x5
100%x3
80%x8
But you don't need to follow these numbers religiously, microloading on 60% doesn't make much sence. For someone who wants to go for a triple at 250, I would do something like this:
135x5
175x5
200x5
225x5
250x3
200x8
Here you will find everything you need to know, plus there is probably a spreadsheet hidden somewhere: http://stronglifts.com/madcow/index.htm
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Just to add to what I wrote above, even with your 10lb increases, you should never ever fail at your 3rd work-set after a couple of weeks. The third work set should always be easy, you have to do a backup-set for 8reps with this weight at the end of the workout. I would assume that you started weigh to high. What routine did you do before and what did your numbers look like when you transitioned?
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