On May 16 2011 07:09 Ingenol wrote: What is the correct way to fail a squat in a rack if I'm midway through a rep and can't finish it?
Best way to fail a squat is to just dump it. But most people arent squatting with bumper plates. I usually just go down with it and try to put it somewhat gently on the saftey rack.
Yeah no bumper plates here. After you go down with it is it better to try to push it off back behind you onto the safety rack or to sort of bend forward until it hits? Better in terms of less likely to hurt oneself.
On May 16 2011 07:09 Ingenol wrote: What is the correct way to fail a squat in a rack if I'm midway through a rep and can't finish it?
Best way to fail a squat is to just dump it. But most people arent squatting with bumper plates. I usually just go down with it and try to put it somewhat gently on the saftey rack.
Yeah no bumper plates here. After you go down with it is it better to try to push it off back behind you onto the safety rack or to sort of bend forward until it hits? Better in terms of less likely to hurt oneself.
Id say it depends on your flexibility, just make sure you keep everything tight until your no longer supporting the weight
Would be great if your form was half decent. I was doing 40kg snatches in my first session and could've easily gone higher if I didn't suck so badly at them. Will try to get in a vid tomorrow or some.
When failing a squat with no spotters or safety catches the only safe way is to dump the bar, bumper plates or not.
Yeah, what I'm asking is should I try to dump it like this: (forward) or backward? Since I've never done it before and I'm approaching the point where I'm probably not going to be able to hit 3x5 soon I want to make sure I can dump the bar without fucking something up.
On May 16 2011 09:46 AoN.DimSum wrote: no that is a dumb way to dump it, always dump in back of u. You just have to let it slide off your back and jump forward.
Okay, that's what I thought. His way looks super dangerous. Thanks!
On May 16 2011 09:39 Ingenol wrote: Yeah, what I'm asking is should I try to dump it like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGIZYbr8ck0&feature=related (forward) or backward? Since I've never done it before and I'm approaching the point where I'm probably not going to be able to hit 3x5 soon I want to make sure I can dump the bar without fucking something up.
That's the proper way to dump it ^^^^^
and sJarl, I think I had pretty good form! My back was constantly straight. I'll record it next time. Anyways, is 120 lbs actually any good for a first time 1rm for c&j
On May 16 2011 09:46 AoN.DimSum wrote: no that is a dumb way to dump it, always dump in back of u. You just have to let it slide off your back and jump forward.
Exactly what I had to do today. My back became unstable and I thought I could seriously injure myself if I even attempted to go lower then drop the bar, so I dropped the whole thing from about 4.5 feet high X_X.
edit: lol I think I basically did exactly what that guy did in above vidio, jumping forward out of the way.
I love being bigger and stronger whenever i meet some guy who's with my sister. RAWR. I'm sure prefacing the conversation with "my brother is an olympic weightlifter and collegiate rugby player" is always good too.
On May 16 2011 09:53 DatBoiRijad wrote: and sJarl, I think I had pretty good form! My back was constantly straight. I'll record it next time. Anyways, is 120 lbs actually any good for a first time 1rm for c&j
Keeping your back tight is only part of correct form, there's so many things that go into a snatch its ridiculous. I'm still improving my form and i've been oly lifting 3x a week for almost half a year. As for your first attempt at 1rm, it depends. I had a pretty solid back ground and got started off around ~200 pounds, but i'm older and bigger than you, cant really say whether 120 is a good 1rm. Anyways you want to work with lighter weights till you have solid form so you don't build habits with bad form at higher weights.
was doing my 3x5 on bench today with my normal increment of 5lb per day... was only able to get it up 4x on my last set of 285... i am thinking i am at my limit of 5lb/day increments (i workout 5 days/week on lunch at work, started doing the 3x5 with 5lb increments a few weeks ago)
looking for input... should i try to go for 5lb every other day, or 5lb/week, or something else?
On May 16 2011 06:45 Malinor wrote: I have a question about HIIT: Can I do my HIIT-Training on a Cardio-machine in the gym (in this case an elliptical)? Reasons being that a) I don't really have a place in the near surrounding where I fell comfortable doing sprints (I wish there was a stadium somewhere around here-.-) and b) with my weight I think my knees would be quite happy to avoid another 2-3 hardcore workouts a week beneath 3x heavy squatting.
I have googled ~5 different forums for this and so far have not heard a negative comment about HIIT on an elliptical, some even encourage it that it's one of the best ways to do it.
I am just unsure if there is something missing in regards of the desired effects when you don't do natural movements but train on an artificial machine with artificial movements. Basically, I don't understand exactly the physiological implications on what makes HIIT that effective (i.e., is it just the heartrate?).
Obviously in the long run, running just makes more sense and is more beneficial for the whole body than these machines. But for me, HIIT right now would be all about weight loss, so I could care less. And I am just not that much into running these days.
That being said, I did some HIIT on the elliptical today, five intervalls of 45seconds with 1.45minutes rest in between. And it was awesome.
Hopefully someone (probably eshlow) can help me out here.
edit: @eshlow: I remember that you said a couple of pages back, that you shouldn't consume carbohydrates up to 2 hours after HIIT. Could you elaborate on why?
I didn't say that....
depends on what your goals are though.
Generally, if you're trying to cut then cut kcals and carbs. But it's definitely OK after HIIT to replenish glycogen stores if the rest are fairly low carb.
You can always do some type of cardio like burpees or rowing on a C2 if you access to one of those.
I'm not sure of the effectiveness of the elliptical on HIIT but you can try it out if you want.
If you're squatting 3x I'd only HIIT once or twice to start just to make sure you can recover alright
Sorry for putting words in your mouth, lol. I just searched the last 20 minutes for that quote, but I didn't find anything. I must be imagining things, well more likely I have read it somewhere else and just connected it to the wrong person in my brain.
Anyway, I am gonna do more research on HIIT now. I need to understand that stuff better, and only 3 timess lifting a week doesn't satisfy me at the moment. And just running kills my squats.
On May 16 2011 18:55 sJarl wrote: You could doing hill sprints (probably not the best idea), sled dragging or prowler sprints.
Haha, I have a ton of ideas, that's not the problem. I'd love to do all three of those, especially the later two. But my gym does not have sleds and I live in a pedestrian precent. I don't care too much of what other people think, but dragging a sled in between 500 people starring is something I'm probably not gonna do.
Not everyone can train in this (judging from your videos) beautiful gym with some of the strongest people in the world
We have a pretty hardcore flight of stairs down to the river, I probably should work with those a bit.
I just need to move somewhere else, but these things sometimes take a while
holy shit my friend got back from the US yesterday and he bought some four loko... i had 2 of them and apparently ended up puking. MASSIVE headache. guess i wont be going for 80kg clean today hahaha
On May 16 2011 06:45 Malinor wrote: I have a question about HIIT: Can I do my HIIT-Training on a Cardio-machine in the gym (in this case an elliptical)? Reasons being that a) I don't really have a place in the near surrounding where I fell comfortable doing sprints (I wish there was a stadium somewhere around here-.-) and b) with my weight I think my knees would be quite happy to avoid another 2-3 hardcore workouts a week beneath 3x heavy squatting.
I have googled ~5 different forums for this and so far have not heard a negative comment about HIIT on an elliptical, some even encourage it that it's one of the best ways to do it.
I am just unsure if there is something missing in regards of the desired effects when you don't do natural movements but train on an artificial machine with artificial movements. Basically, I don't understand exactly the physiological implications on what makes HIIT that effective (i.e., is it just the heartrate?).
Obviously in the long run, running just makes more sense and is more beneficial for the whole body than these machines. But for me, HIIT right now would be all about weight loss, so I could care less. And I am just not that much into running these days.
That being said, I did some HIIT on the elliptical today, five intervalls of 45seconds with 1.45minutes rest in between. And it was awesome.
Hopefully someone (probably eshlow) can help me out here.
edit: @eshlow: I remember that you said a couple of pages back, that you shouldn't consume carbohydrates up to 2 hours after HIIT. Could you elaborate on why?
I didn't say that....
depends on what your goals are though.
Generally, if you're trying to cut then cut kcals and carbs. But it's definitely OK after HIIT to replenish glycogen stores if the rest are fairly low carb.
You can always do some type of cardio like burpees or rowing on a C2 if you access to one of those.
I'm not sure of the effectiveness of the elliptical on HIIT but you can try it out if you want.
If you're squatting 3x I'd only HIIT once or twice to start just to make sure you can recover alright
Sorry for putting words in your mouth, lol. I just searched the last 20 minutes for that quote, but I didn't find anything. I must be imagining things, well more likely I have read it somewhere else and just connected it to the wrong person in my brain.
Anyway, I am gonna do more research on HIIT now. I need to understand that stuff better, and only 3 timess lifting a week doesn't satisfy me at the moment. And just running kills my squats.
On May 16 2011 22:41 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: I'm not lifting any more this week because I have a comprehensive examination to finish graduate school. It sucks but priorities are priorities.
I'll be back in the gym this Sunday, ready to kick some serious ass.
EL ASSO WIPO! :D
Been lifting, but been eating like shit, need to get my diet right, eat a shitton of calories, keep the good mood and lift like there's no tomorrow.
Week 3 (after first shitty 2 of ANP) begins today.
Fuck, I can't wait for wednesday. or maybe I shouldn't, Imma deadlift today. FUCK YES.
EPT
