EPTlift heavy dudes!
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
lift heavy dudes! | ||
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MajinMojo
266 Posts
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
so take your fish oil boys and girls! | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On May 16 2011 09:50 Ingenol wrote: Okay, that's what I thought. His way looks super dangerous. Thanks! it's not dangerous at all that's how starting strength teaches you how to dump the bar | ||
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inimenesc
Estonia374 Posts
 no extra time but who ever misses freethrow first, my team lost on 2nd freethrow still great fun had amazing block(sent him straight to home!), tomorrow back to training rutine(yes i use smiley faces so often everywhere )and to add all of this excitment, i still find this thread is only for guys trying to bodybuild havent seen anyone else doing anything else than that. | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
 Doesn't mean that we don't do other stuff aswell | ||
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Catch
United States616 Posts
Along with some tire conditioning... who said the two couldn't mix? | ||
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MajinMojo
266 Posts
On May 17 2011 02:45 inimenesc wrote: i am bummed out, lost in basketball with freethrows no extra time but who ever misses freethrow first, my team lost on 2nd freethrow still great fun had amazing block(sent him straight to home!), tomorrow back to training rutine(yes i use smiley faces so often everywhere )and to add all of this excitment, i still find this thread is only for guys trying to bodybuild havent seen anyone else doing anything else than that.Not really. More like most people are doing pure strength training. If anything there's more of a tilt toward powerlifting and Olympic lifts for sure. Anyway, yes that is the truth though. Yet another reason for a sub-forum! So we can better split the conversations into different areas of H&F! :D | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On May 17 2011 02:45 inimenesc wrote: i am bummed out, lost in basketball with freethrows no extra time but who ever misses freethrow first, my team lost on 2nd freethrow still great fun had amazing block(sent him straight to home!), tomorrow back to training rutine(yes i use smiley faces so often everywhere )and to add all of this excitment, i still find this thread is only for guys trying to bodybuild havent seen anyone else doing anything else than that.Actually almost no one here is trying to bodybuild - Most of us are doing strength training, Dimsum is an oly lifter. Decaf is training for rugby, some of the more recent posters are trying to lose weight. There were runners coming in a few pages back... if anything, bodybuilding is the furthest thing from common in the topic. What position/what level you playing ball at? I played in highschool, but haven't done so much as a pickup game since graduating. My little sister is still in highschool and is looking at possibly playing college ball in the future (6'2 girls are hard to come by I guess?). I guess I'm in charge of doing as much "development" as possible this summer, which means I get her doing strength training, and I be the bigger stronger person that she needs to beat on for practice. I think she's played one taller girl before, but the girl wasn't able to walk a straight line without tripping. I don't feel that the bench press is going to be so necessary for her - might skip it in favor of more overhead press/dips/pullups/chinups, in addition to her doing squats and deads with me. Should be fun. | ||
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inimenesc
Estonia374 Posts
Actualy i jump like a fatty, so need to train it i can dunk, but it shouldnt be anything special with my height.I wanna dunk from standing and 2 hands at least. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On May 17 2011 03:25 inimenesc wrote: i am 203cmish tall. I play 5 or 4 (centre and in the corner accordingly), i am still quite fast for my size and i can do runbys. I am 10th grader so yeah...but actualy there are one guy almost as tall as me in my class, so its chool. Actualy i jump like a fatty, so need to train it i can dunk, but it shouldnt be anything special with my height.I wanna dunk from standing and 2 hands at least. nice. You've got 10 cm on me, but I could dunk 1 hand standing before my original knee injury. Said knee injury now continues to reappear whenever it feels like it. Definitely check out your running form man, Make sure it's good. If you've got it, a heel strike may not seem like a problem now, but if you keep it up the next 2-3 seasons, it's going to cause problems you'll have to deal with forever. If you want to increase your jumping ability, start squatting. 100% nothing better for it. even if you're under 6 feet (183 cm) if you can really squat, you'll be dunking. In fact, when my sister's feeling lazy I might be going to my old highschool to try to convince some of the guys on that team to lift. I don't even know most of the kids on the team anymore, but I've been to some of their practices, and there's a few guys that could really use it. | ||
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inimenesc
Estonia374 Posts
yup knees, had that problem allready when i was goign to basketball practice 5 times a week + gym. Now i only play for fun and to beat the crap out of my friends. I really would like to be small pointguard and i often find my self behind 3 pointer usually when i get the ball there i will just pass my guy cus centres are usually really slow compared to me, ezz. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On May 17 2011 03:43 inimenesc wrote: one hand standing is there, twohands isnt yup knees, had that problem allready when i was goign to basketball practice 5 times a week + gym. Now i only play for fun and to beat the crap out of my friends. I really would like to be small pointguard and i often find my self behind 3 pointer usually when i get the ball there i will just pass my guy cus centres are usually really slow compared to me, ezz.Try talking to a track or cross country coach at your school, they should be able to figure out what's wrong with your running form and help you correct it. Running when you're that size without hurting yourself is entirely possible - pro athletes do it all the time. You've just got to be careful that you do it correctly. | ||
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inimenesc
Estonia374 Posts
I am doing other sports than running to keep my fitness. Tomorrow a friendly game against rival school, will put all my emotions here! Want to have 1 block at least and when possible a dunk! | ||
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Advocado
Denmark994 Posts
Lots of respect for the basketball players!' Also huge fucking cramp in my leg after training. Jesus christ had to rest the leg for 2 min straight just to be able to walk again. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On May 17 2011 04:32 inimenesc wrote: In estonia, we have one teacher for athletics and thats it, and he doesnt know anything. I am doing other sports than running to keep my fitness. Tomorrow a friendly game against rival school, will put all my emotions here! Want to have 1 block at least and when possible a dunk! It's not about fitness. It's about your joints. When you run with poor form, your bones and joints take the weight of the impact on the ground. Over time, this is extremely damaging to the knees and the lower back - even to the point it can't be recovered from naturally. The problem exists for everyone, but it's magnified in taller and in heavier people, and in athletes. Surprise surprise, these are the people most commonly exhibiting back and knee problems. Running with proper form on the other hand, the muscles in the leg and back absorb and distribute some of the shock from each impact. You have less force on the joints, which they can recover from, so there's no (or relatively little) damage over time. If you've got a proper pair of shoes, and a midfoot or forefoot strike, then it'd take a video to know if there's anything else to fix. Proper shoes include not nike shox. foot strike resources can be found all over the internet, so I'm not going to waste thread space talking about that. bolded because my posts are too long and this is important-ish Thinking more about my sister. For someone who's essentially untrained in lifting, would it be more beneficial to split into strength days and volume/endurance days, or to go with a straight SS/SL routine? Lifting for her has no purpose other than as cross-training for basketball, we don't care about how much she can lift for the sake of lifting, only how it will carry over to the sport. If it matters, probably won't be able to do more than two workouts/week between her spring track season (dad coaches, but it's ending soon =x) AAU/springleague basketball tournaments, open gym, and school schedule. There just won't be recovery time, at least until she gets out of school for the summer and I think I'm supposed to start sooner than that. | ||
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sawedust
United States506 Posts
On May 17 2011 03:16 phyre112 wrote: Actually almost no one here is trying to bodybuild - Most of us are doing strength training, Dimsum is an oly lifter. Decaf is training for rugby, some of the more recent posters are trying to lose weight. There were runners coming in a few pages back... if anything, bodybuilding is the furthest thing from common in the topic. Actually I am, just for the aesthetics of it. However as I stated before, the weights at which I'm lifting now won't do anything to help my cause; I need to add a lot more weight and build a lot more strength before I even think about going to a bodybuilding routine. Seeing as how my online reset has been on the bench press, I've got an extremely long way to go before I hit the point where I transition from SS/PP to something else. | ||
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vicariouscheese
United States589 Posts
On May 17 2011 05:41 sawedust wrote: Actually I am, just for the aesthetics of it. However as I stated before, the weights at which I'm lifting now won't do anything to help my cause; I need to add a lot more weight and build a lot more strength before I even think about going to a bodybuilding routine. Seeing as how my online reset has been on the bench press, I've got an extremely long way to go before I hit the point where I transition from SS/PP to something else. Yeah I'm doing this mostly for aesthetics as well. I'm more of a believer that diet is way more important than the routine though, look at leangains and his customers- he's stated that he essentially has them do SS and then even lower volume when they've exhausted their beginner gains. Not exactly what's touted as bodybuilding splits. Anyways restarting the gym this week, going to get on the advanced novice program. Maybe I'm jumping out of regular SS prematurely (only reset squats twice) but we'll see how it goes. I just really miss chinups and pullups... Will also most likely be sticking to SS for longer than planned since I've decided to start playing lacrosse again this year. Much better incentive for pushing squat numbers, at least until spring season rolls around. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On May 17 2011 05:27 phyre112 wrote: It's not about fitness. It's about your joints. When you run with poor form, your bones and joints take the weight of the impact on the ground. Over time, this is extremely damaging to the knees and the lower back - even to the point it can't be recovered from naturally. The problem exists for everyone, but it's magnified in taller and in heavier people, and in athletes. Surprise surprise, these are the people most commonly exhibiting back and knee problems. Running with proper form on the other hand, the muscles in the leg and back absorb and distribute some of the shock from each impact. You have less force on the joints, which they can recover from, so there's no (or relatively little) damage over time. If you've got a proper pair of shoes, and a midfoot or forefoot strike, then it'd take a video to know if there's anything else to fix. Proper shoes include not nike shox. foot strike resources can be found all over the internet, so I'm not going to waste thread space talking about that. bolded because my posts are too long and this is important-ish Thinking more about my sister. For someone who's essentially untrained in lifting, would it be more beneficial to split into strength days and volume/endurance days, or to go with a straight SS/SL routine? Lifting for her has no purpose other than as cross-training for basketball, we don't care about how much she can lift for the sake of lifting, only how it will carry over to the sport. If it matters, probably won't be able to do more than two workouts/week between her spring track season (dad coaches, but it's ending soon =x) AAU/springleague basketball tournaments, open gym, and school schedule. There just won't be recovery time, at least until she gets out of school for the summer and I think I'm supposed to start sooner than that. If you look at any athletes in high level sports they're all strong. So the obvious answer is get strong. You get enough conditioning work just playing basketball hard so there's no reason to actually work that (although a longer run here or there may help). | ||
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Ludrik
Australia523 Posts
I love being able to add 10kg every time I deadlift. Today was pretty tough though. Might just add 5kg at a time until I get to 100kg. | ||
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