EPTIt's actually from the high amount of sugar in Western diets, specifically fructose. Eye-opening video below.
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A3iL3r0n
United States2196 Posts
It's actually from the high amount of sugar in Western diets, specifically fructose. Eye-opening video below. | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On April 12 2011 17:30 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: Also, Dimsum, a lot of Olympic coaches incorporate overhead squats in their routines. Have you ever done this before? Is this more for advanced Olympic lifters or is it a decent exercise for newbs like me? The opposite. When you start off, just increasing overhead squat will bring your snatch up. It gets less and less useful as you get better at the lifts. It's a necessary part of training if you squat jerk, some chinese dudes clean grip overhead squat more than they front squat. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On April 14 2011 14:00 A3iL3r0n wrote: It's actually from the high amount of sugar in Western diets, specifically fructose. Eye-opening video below. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM The big 4 1. Grains/gluten (inflammatory responses) 2. Seed/vegetable oils (excessive omega-6s are inflammatory) 3. Fructose (alters metabolic processes, advanced glycation end products/AGEs) 4. Overconsumption (obviously) | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
There's going to be a Holy War between the two threads. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20154 Posts
 Hows your training going drowsy?On April 14 2011 14:41 thedeadhaji wrote: There's going to be a Holy War between the two threads. As much as i'd like to personally sit down half the people in that thread and tell them its cool that theyre vegan but quit spreading bullshit, i know its absolutely useless and everyone loses in internet arguments | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On April 14 2011 14:48 decafchicken wrote: As much as i'd like to personally sit down half the people in that thread and tell them its cool that theyre vegan but quit spreading bullshit, i know its absolutely useless and everyone loses in internet arguments You're definitely right that everyone loses in an internet argument - Hence the notice above that thread that says "don't let this turn into an argument"... I suppose we just sit back here, keep quoting them, and use it as a learning experience. And take the information given to win real life arguments =p? | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On April 14 2011 14:48 decafchicken wrote: I can't imagine OHS with even like 2/3 of my front squat..squat jerkers are unreal. Might try to incorporate some OHS squats into my routine though. I still need to do a ton of work on my split jerk...it gets sooo sloppy (esp on maxes) but i guess that will come with time and practice. Been snatching too much lately, my clean is starting to feel not as smooth as it used to for some reason Hows your training going drowsy?As much as i'd like to personally sit down half the people in that thread and tell them its cool that theyre vegan but quit spreading bullshit, i know its absolutely useless and everyone loses in internet arguments That vegan guy I study bombed about 6 pages ago didn't come back, so as long as they don't come here I'm fine with that I guess. It's like arguing with religious fanatics. You can't really win no matter what you say or evidence you provide... except this time we actually have evidence that shows they're wrong. | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
information pollution... | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On April 14 2011 14:00 A3iL3r0n wrote: It's actually from the high amount of sugar in Western diets, specifically fructose. Eye-opening video below. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM Watching this video. Great information. <3 | ||
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
On April 14 2011 15:02 eshlow wrote: That vegan guy I study bombed about 6 pages ago didn't come back, so as long as they don't come here I'm fine with that I guess. It's like arguing with religious fanatics. You can't really win no matter what you say or evidence you provide... except this time we actually have evidence that shows they're wrong. Unfortunately, study bombing vegans is going to do absolutely nothing because a.) They won't bother reading the studies and b.) Even if they do read the studies, they're not capable of understanding the material in them because if they were, they would get off their insane vegan diets immediately. Honestly, it takes a serious brain defect to intentionally live a vegan lifestyle for health reasons. If you want to do so for personal morality reasons, then by all means go ahead; absolutely nobody can argue against your desire to live a vegan lifestyle because you feel the meat industry is screwed up. But, if you come preaching soy and grains--the two single worst staple food crops in the history of mankind--you deserve to be laughed out of our thread of carnivores. TL Health and Fitness 2011: Pussy Vegans Not Welcome | ||
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
Although some other points (animal cruelty, high resource/energy costs of the meat industry) are valid | ||
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ModernAgeShaman
Norway484 Posts
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
1.) Sit back into the lift in a "between the legs" motion. 2.) Big chest, tight lower back and abs (do I need to stay tight under the bar the entire time?) 3.) Shoulder-width stance with knees tracking out in the same direction as feet are pointed in the descent. 4.) Go as low as flexibility allows. 5.) Look straight forward. Anything else? I've low bar squatted so long that I have this tendency to lean forward even in a high bar squat. | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
On April 14 2011 18:42 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: Alright, hitting the gym tomorrow and doing high bar squat, clean, overhead press, and chin ups. Some things to remember about the high bar squat seem to be: 1.) Sit back into the lift in a "between the legs" motion. 2.) Big chest, tight lower back and abs (do I need to stay tight under the bar the entire time?) 3.) Shoulder-width stance with knees tracking out in the same direction as feet are pointed in the descent. 4.) Go as low as flexibility allows. 5.) Look straight forward. Anything else? I've low bar squatted so long that I have this tendency to lean forward even in a high bar squat. Stay tight the whole time. Looking up helps me not to lean to much forward. | ||
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
On April 14 2011 19:33 sJarl wrote: Stay tight the whole time. Looking up helps me not to lean to much forward. Yeah, I saw the Chinese lifters doing the "look up" thing. I'll try it too! Final workout plan designed for my goals: Day One: Stretch Power cleans: 10 singles with 5-6 of them heavy + warm-ups and technique work Back squats: 5 sets of 5 reps + warm-ups Overhead press: 3 sets of 5 reps + warm-ups Chin-ups: 3 sets of 5 reps Hyperextensions: 3 sets of 10 reps Stretch Day Two: Stretch Power snatch: 10 doubles with 5-6 of them heavy + warm-ups and technique work Front squats: 5 sets of 5 reps + warm-ups Dumbbell bench press: 3 sets of 5 reps + warm-ups Dead lift: 1 set of 5 reps + warm-ups Ab work 75 reps Stretch Day Three: Stretch ATG cleans: 10 singles with 5-6 of them heavy + warm-ups and technique work Overhead squats: 5 sets of 5 reps + warm-ups Overhead press: 3 sets of 5 reps + warm-ups Shrugs: 5 sets of 8 reps + warm-ups Ab work 75 reps Stretch This is a combination of a group of lifting programs, plus a little bit of chest work included. I like doing singles and doubles on the clean/snatch, and I've included all three types of squats... I know how anal I'm being about perfecting this program, but I can't stand the thought of working on a sub-optimal system. As for progression, I'm thinking I'll add weight every session at first--something like 5kg/session when I start and then lower it down to 2.5kg/session when that gets hard. | ||
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
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pinkranger15
Philippines1597 Posts
On April 14 2011 20:28 Zafrumi wrote: imo ab work is a waste of time! most of your lifts will work your abs enough. or do you have any specific reason for doing them? for real? so there's no need for sit-ups or of such? anyway, my gym instructor said that i need to gain some weight but i don't know up to what weight. so basically i need a specific goal. my current weight is 120 lbs and i'm 5'3". can any of you guys give this noob some advice?  | ||
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
On April 14 2011 20:28 Zafrumi wrote: imo ab work is a waste of time! most of your lifts will work your abs enough. or do you have any specific reason for doing them? Most Olympic weightlifting programs incorporate ab work for the increased core strength and stability in doing the lifts. Subsequently, most Olympic lifters also do some ab work. In the program Dimsum linked me, it says "Everyday: Stretching before and after training-abdominal work for reps (75 reps)." In Glenn Pendlay's Olympic lifting program primer, he states: "We try to end each workout with some low-back and abdominal work, and some jumping exercises. For this we use a glute-ham bench, a reverse hypermachine, lots of bands and medicine balls, and Plyo Boxes." I agree that for getting shredded abs, abdominal work is not all that necessary. However, it seems to be a big part of many Olympic lifting programs. anyway, my gym instructor said that i need to gain some weight but i don't know up to what weight. so basically i need a specific goal. my current weight is 120 lbs and i'm 5'3". can any of you guys give this noob some advice? Refer to the sticky. Drink a gallon of whole milk a day, do the weightlifting program Starting Strength, and get swole. | ||
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
@pinkranger: yes, for the "everyday gym-goer", ab work is not needed if you are on a heavy compound lifting program such as SS or stronglifts. and imo weight is actually more or less meaningless. I dont think anyone here is gonna tell you "X kg is the perfect weight for you! anything above or under that is bad." all that matters is that you are strong and dont become a fat load. if you eat well and lift heavy, that should happen automatically. of course, if you want to gain muscle mass, you need to eat a lot. you might gain weight this way, but you will look better and be stronger. and if you look in a mirror and like what you see, i'd say thats the perfect weight | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
On April 14 2011 20:48 pinkranger15 wrote: for real? so there's no need for sit-ups or of such? anyway, my gym instructor said that i need to gain some weight but i don't know up to what weight. so basically i need a specific goal. my current weight is 120 lbs and i'm 5'3". can any of you guys give this noob some advice? Situps are imo junk. But ab-work as a whole isn't. Hanging leg raises are just brutal, so are dragonflags. Roman Chair situps work though... Read the OP, drink loads of milk, eat more and lift heavy | ||
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