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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
April 14 2011 12:53 GMT
#3361
I need a video of HB Squat, and LB Squat.

Can't tell the difference loawl.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
April 14 2011 13:30 GMT
#3362
HB squat is when the bar is rested in a high position and back is more upright:



LB squat is when the bar is rested down more and the lifter is leaned forward more:


Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
April 14 2011 13:50 GMT
#3363
...and Zack went straight for the milk
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 14:12:01
April 14 2011 14:10 GMT
#3364
This
On April 14 2011 13:11 Catch wrote:
amygdala(Stuff)

and this
On April 14 2011 13:11 Catch wrote:
Cliffs of cliffs
-lifting is badass


made me lol irl

Funkie where are you headed in the US? Or is it super secret
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
April 14 2011 14:40 GMT
#3365
dunno, seems like I'm going there in november, not sure tho ;o.

CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20170 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 15:30:57
April 14 2011 15:22 GMT
#3366
@Catch hahahahah got a laugh out of that. nice info <3

On April 14 2011 20:07 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 19:33 sJarl wrote:
On April 14 2011 18:42 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Alright, hitting the gym tomorrow and doing high bar squat, clean, overhead press, and chin ups. Some things to remember about the high bar squat seem to be:

1.) Sit back into the lift in a "between the legs" motion.
2.) Big chest, tight lower back and abs (do I need to stay tight under the bar the entire time?)
3.) Shoulder-width stance with knees tracking out in the same direction as feet are pointed in the descent.
4.) Go as low as flexibility allows.
5.) Look straight forward.

Anything else? I've low bar squatted so long that I have this tendency to lean forward even in a high bar squat.


Stay tight the whole time. Looking up helps me not to lean to much forward.


Yeah, I saw the Chinese lifters doing the "look up" thing. I'll try it too!

Final workout plan designed for my goals:

Day One:

Stretch
Power cleans: 10 singles with 5-6 of them heavy + warm-ups and technique work
Back squats: 5 sets of 5 reps + warm-ups
Overhead press: 3 sets of 5 reps + warm-ups
Chin-ups: 3 sets of 5 reps
Hyperextensions: 3 sets of 10 reps
Stretch

Day Two:

Stretch
Power snatch: 10 doubles with 5-6 of them heavy + warm-ups and technique work
Front squats: 5 sets of 5 reps + warm-ups
Dumbbell bench press: 3 sets of 5 reps + warm-ups
Dead lift: 1 set of 5 reps + warm-ups
Ab work 75 reps
Stretch

Day Three:

Stretch
ATG cleans: 10 singles with 5-6 of them heavy + warm-ups and technique work
Overhead squats: 5 sets of 5 reps + warm-ups
Overhead press: 3 sets of 5 reps + warm-ups
Shrugs: 5 sets of 8 reps + warm-ups
Ab work 75 reps
Stretch

This is a combination of a group of lifting programs, plus a little bit of chest work included. I like doing singles and doubles on the clean/snatch, and I've included all three types of squats... I know how anal I'm being about perfecting this program, but I can't stand the thought of working on a sub-optimal system.

As for progression, I'm thinking I'll add weight every session at first--something like 5kg/session when I start and then lower it down to 2.5kg/session when that gets hard.


I'd go for full snatches, preferably starting from the hang or high hang and working your way down so you can work on getting your hips and traps into it. The full snatches will work your hip/leg/ shoulder flexibility and strength a lot more (well obv you need more hip drive to power snatch but yeah) I'd ditch the shrugs. Your traps should be getting a lot of work as is and if you want more trap work i'd do snatch or clean pulls.

Personally i havent done abs/core work since my si joint stopped bothering me. I'm sure its useful if you're not doing something stupid like crunches, but my core has gotten rock solid and given me a decent set of abs just from snatch/clean jerking/squatting. I should probably incorporate some, maybe when i have more time over the summer.

edit: At this point i just check the vegan thread for laughs. "too much protein isn't as unhealthy for you like too much fat" "extreme athletes should avoid red meat" "Don't worry about planning out a vegan diet, just eat a bunch and you'll be fine" and eating meat being compared to drinking radioactive water and advocating diets based around pancakes, pasta, pizza, and other starches.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 14 2011 15:35 GMT
#3367
On April 14 2011 17:47 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 15:02 eshlow wrote:
On April 14 2011 14:48 decafchicken wrote:
I can't imagine OHS with even like 2/3 of my front squat..squat jerkers are unreal. Might try to incorporate some OHS squats into my routine though. I still need to do a ton of work on my split jerk...it gets sooo sloppy (esp on maxes) but i guess that will come with time and practice. Been snatching too much lately, my clean is starting to feel not as smooth as it used to for some reason Hows your training going drowsy?

On April 14 2011 14:41 thedeadhaji wrote:
On April 14 2011 13:46 AoN.DimSum wrote:
On April 14 2011 13:32 eshlow wrote:
On April 14 2011 11:57 decafchicken wrote:
I thought it was fairly common knowledge that increased cardio-vascular problems and heart disease is directly linked to the amount of meat an individual eats. That is why you see instances of heart disease and cardio-vascular problems so much higher in the West and nations that traditionally eat much larger quantities of meat.


Dear lord. Eshlow didn't you post a study a while back showing the EXACT opposite? I also ran into "bodybuilders overdosing on protein". Sigh


Where's that from?

Also, yes... it's garbage. Bet they didn't have any studies backing that up

Sounds like vegetarian/vegan propaganda

its from the vegan thread





There's going to be a Holy War between the two threads.


As much as i'd like to personally sit down half the people in that thread and tell them its cool that theyre vegan but quit spreading bullshit, i know its absolutely useless and everyone loses in internet arguments


That vegan guy I study bombed about 6 pages ago didn't come back, so as long as they don't come here I'm fine with that I guess.

It's like arguing with religious fanatics. You can't really win no matter what you say or evidence you provide... except this time we actually have evidence that shows they're wrong.


Unfortunately, study bombing vegans is going to do absolutely nothing because a.) They won't bother reading the studies and b.) Even if they do read the studies, they're not capable of understanding the material in them because if they were, they would get off their insane vegan diets immediately.

Honestly, it takes a serious brain defect to intentionally live a vegan lifestyle for health reasons. If you want to do so for personal morality reasons, then by all means go ahead; absolutely nobody can argue against your desire to live a vegan lifestyle because you feel the meat industry is screwed up. But, if you come preaching soy and grains--the two single worst staple food crops in the history of mankind--you deserve to be laughed out of our thread of carnivores.

TL Health and Fitness 2011: Pussy Vegans Not Welcome


I don't think there are any good reasons for being a vege/vegan except maybe religious. And even with religious I don't really respect that either. I don't think there are any religions out there that are 100% abstain from any kind of meat, and it really comes down to just a person choice. And you know how people can make dumb choices.

Morality/ethically there is no leg to stand on. meat eating made us human, meat is high resource containing, and has many vits/minerals that we need to thrive, we have the teeth structure for omnivore (which is more like carnivores than herbivores), etc. Dozens of reasons why we should eat meat and should continue to.

environmentally... again sustainable agriculture can be more productive than traditional mass farming.

If you don't support the meat industry then join your local CSA?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community-supported_agriculture

Fresh fruits/vegetables/meats/milk/eggs/etc. Ethically raised, by sustainable agriculture. Help your local economy, etc.

Personally, i think most of these people get off on their own self righteousness.


If you have any sort of common sense for where we have come from as humans then there is no question that there is no good reason for avoiding eating meat.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
April 14 2011 15:41 GMT
#3368
On April 14 2011 10:08 AoN.DimSum wrote:
WTF european and asian championships going are both this week~!!!!!!

It seems like this is a stream for the euros http://www.allsport-live.ru/tv.php?channel=30627
time schedule - http://www.polska-sztanga.h2.pl/live/time-schedule.html

euros 48kg class and more if you click on this persons account


asian champs 56 and 62


holy check dude those girls are kinda hot!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Michaelj
Profile Joined February 2008
United States186 Posts
April 14 2011 15:46 GMT
#3369
I lasted 3 pages in the vegan thread before I had to stop reading. It makes me realize how much I take for granted all the actual science that is posted in the H&F thread.
---
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
April 14 2011 21:22 GMT
#3370
I swear to you, 110 kg squat is a curse for me. This is the fourth (!) time I've gone past 110 kg and something happens

Only made 1 reps of 112,5 kg squat today, my adductors and my lower back started to hurt so bad. Shit's not good yo I think I'm gonna deload to 90 kg and work my way back up again.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
April 14 2011 22:09 GMT
#3371
On April 15 2011 06:22 Necosarius wrote:
I swear to you, 110 kg squat is a curse for me. This is the fourth (!) time I've gone past 110 kg and something happens

Only made 1 reps of 112,5 kg squat today, my adductors and my lower back started to hurt so bad. Shit's not good yo I think I'm gonna deload to 90 kg and work my way back up again.


Lower back pain is a sign that you are not bracing your abs properly. Use low weights/volume to practice perfect technique and you will be there in no time.

I am 90% sure if u can break that plateau by doing the following:

Monday: 80kg x5,x3,x2
Tuesday: 90kg x5,x3,x2
Wednesday: 100kg x5, x3, x2
Thursday: 70kg x5, x3, x2
Friday: off
Saturday: 112,5 x as many as u can, new PR record.

Important:
The goal from monday to thursday is to practice perfect technique and maximal tension generation. Do not try to gas out, train to failure, and do not feel a wimp for lifting so few.
DO NOT DO ANY OTHER LEG/ABS EXERCISES THAT WEEK, u'll appreciate it when u easily do 112,5 reps.
112kg squat should be really easy with proper technique unless u weight 55kg or smth.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
April 14 2011 22:16 GMT
#3372
On April 15 2011 06:22 Necosarius wrote:
I swear to you, 110 kg squat is a curse for me. This is the fourth (!) time I've gone past 110 kg and something happens

Only made 1 reps of 112,5 kg squat today, my adductors and my lower back started to hurt so bad. Shit's not good yo I think I'm gonna deload to 90 kg and work my way back up again.


Ignore going for 112.5kg and jump straight to 120kg.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
April 14 2011 22:36 GMT
#3373
wow i bitched out on 350lb squat. I was cautious and descended too slow. Gonna go lift again soon.
First time lifting twice a day since I have no gym time this week.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
April 15 2011 03:33 GMT
#3374
On April 15 2011 07:36 AoN.DimSum wrote:
wow i bitched out on 350lb squat. I was cautious and descended too slow. Gonna go lift again soon.
First time lifting twice a day since I have no gym time this week.


For some reason when I first read this I thought it was Funkie's post and I was like WHAT THE FUCK.

I mean, dude's strong, but if he were at 350lbs already while I'm at 250~ 1RM I'd just hang myself.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
April 15 2011 03:42 GMT
#3375
Just found out that my gf volunteered to be staffed in Mongolia (over one that's in north america) during the summer (my break) even though we planned to go to Peru together. fucking hell

rage lift tomorrow
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 15 2011 04:17 GMT
#3376
Today:

Bench Press: 165lbs(+5) 3-5-5-5

I totally failed the first set, but after the 3rd set I said "fuck it I know I can do a proper 5-5-5".
EZ bodyweight Bench imo.

Starting to feel like my muscles are gassed after going Sat-Mon-Tues-Wed-Thurs @ the gym. Going to go back to Sat-Tues-Wed-Thurs next week (or maybe Sat-Mon-Wed-Thurs...)

Hope I'll be replenished enough to do 255lb squat (+10), 100lb M.Press and 285lbs D.lift (+10) on saturdayayayayayaya
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
April 15 2011 05:30 GMT
#3377
No problem for the info @ whoever commented lol; I'll give some more if I find it while researching.

Busy as eff lately . Might deadlift again tomorrow, even though I did wednesday. Need a replacement for squats until monday and that sounds like the perfect thing (plus I'd hit two plates next wednesday )
Victory Loves Preparation
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
April 15 2011 06:28 GMT
#3378
Did some Power Cleans and Squats with light weight at the gym today. Here are the videos:

+ Show Spoiler +

Power Clean 65kg: LOL



Back Squat Set 1 75kg: ATG



Back Squat Set 3: Below Parallel



Back Squat Set 5: My best set maybe




thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 15 2011 08:02 GMT
#3379
[image loading]

Not sure if this is even meaningful data
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
April 15 2011 08:18 GMT
#3380
I caught a cold over night god damn this cold weather... gonna skip lift today and just go tomorrow I think

squat is looking good I think rosa
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
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