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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 22 2015 21:10 GMT
#13761
No such developer exists.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
October 22 2015 21:14 GMT
#13762
On October 23 2015 06:08 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 06:02 ComaDose wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:58 Requizen wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:48 Seuss wrote:but most introductory courses are filled with people who think programmers smash their keyboards for a few minutes and then play video games all day.

Yeah, jerks.

I smash my keyboard for a few hours and then post about games all day. Big difference.

actually this should have been my job description


A proper Developer job posting should look like this:

  • Knows theory of how to design a functional program from start to end
    hello world
  • Able to talk to a team without sounding like a self-centered prick or moron (or both)
    or is smart enough to get away with it (im not)
  • Knows programming to a point where they can parse posts and articles to get relevant syntax to match their semantics
    also googlefu blackbelt
  • Can put together a database without creating a pile of garbage
    we dont need more tables than your dennys if you can just be a little variable
  • Can tell customers exactly what they want to hear without making promises they can't keep (the bullshit clause)
    or can deal with staying late for no pay to keep the promises of the customer facing jerks

BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
October 22 2015 21:46 GMT
#13763
On October 22 2015 22:30 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 22:18 Seuss wrote:
Voted Exalted. I have a stack of probably outdated Exalted books begging for my attention.


I also voted Exalted, both because I love stunting and also because that setting is one of my favorites. Sidereal shenanigans and the Fey OVERALL are fantastic.


Yeeeeeessss best fey and stunting is basically the perfect tabletop rpg rule. I probably employ it in more situations than I should (ex// if someone has to look up the rules for a spell or something then w/e just stunt it fuck the books).

On October 22 2015 22:35 Seuss wrote:
Oh hey 2nd Edition is still current, though apparently not for long because Kickstarter.

And yeah, stunting in Exalted is awesome.


It's still current until 3E comes out, yeah. 3E is like 2 years behind schedule though or something? I got my kickstarter official pdf today actually. Also there was a leak a while back (you can find a permalink through an archived 7chan thread iirc) with basically the full rules. Would be fine with using 2E or 3E and I'm pro-homebrew anything.

On October 22 2015 22:48 Seuss wrote:
Exalted is great because the creators decided that it would be nice if there were actually codified systems to support, encourage, and reward role-playing. It also has a very, very rich and awesome setting.


yyyeeeessss on all accounts. Fuck I love this game.

Although conversely most of it's problems stem from a lot of the systems not actually work they way they wanted them too (ex combat takes forever and does not match the fast paced action narratives the players are describing). 3E combat is... different. It's kind of like Dissidia: Final Fantasy? Not sure if it's actually much simpler overall, but it's much simpler in some ways (d&d style turns now instead of ticks) and it seems faster. I can do a write-up about it if you're interested.

On October 22 2015 22:36 Ketara wrote:
I voted Exalted because I know nothing about it other than that it was made by the old school v:tm dudes and I love those dudes.

On October 22 2015 22:50 Ketara wrote:
I'm under the impression that everybody in Exalted gets to be sexy angels with superpowers.


Changeling: The Dreaming did it for me.

You can also be dinosaurs or zombies. There's even a high school setting.

Technically "appearance" is a stat you don't have to put a lot of ranks into but everyone does obvs.

On October 23 2015 00:54 Scip wrote:
could I do all sports, like Judo, with contact lenses?
if so, any tips regarding those?


They can be knocked out (I did this to someone in rugby once, which was an issue because they couldn't find the lens in a grassy field), but generally shouldn't be too dangerous aside from liquid issues (As req said). I don't wear contact lenses or glasses, but I know people who do wear contacts during Judo sessions and they seem fine although they may have stories that I haven't asked about.

content warning: srs busines
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On October 22 2015 23:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
True enough, it really comes down to the person hearing the term and being offended. There are plenty of people who are offended by way too much, and sadly in US culture there's now plenty of support for anyone who feels "abused" by a word to speak out against it and have people respect that. Behind it all there just needs to be a modicum of respect for your fellow humans, and part of that is not trying to intentionally piss someone off. If you say something that someone takes offense to, don't get defensive and try to argue why the term shouldn't be taken offensively by that person and instead just apologize and remove yourself from that situation with said person.


Politics of respectability is half the issue. The other side is when things actually hurt people in physical ways, rather than merely offending them (ex// more likely to be harassed, less likely to be employed, when government gets involved, etc.). Personally I don't care too much about cases that are merely about someone being offended, although many people posting here obviously aren't super up to date on things like microagressions and how they build towards real issues, and it's certainly not intuitive or visibly obvious in many cases (less so than say blue/red side advantage in league, which we know from experience some people can't comprehend).
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 22 2015 21:52 GMT
#13764
On October 23 2015 06:14 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 06:08 Requizen wrote:
On October 23 2015 06:02 ComaDose wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:58 Requizen wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:48 Seuss wrote:but most introductory courses are filled with people who think programmers smash their keyboards for a few minutes and then play video games all day.

Yeah, jerks.

I smash my keyboard for a few hours and then post about games all day. Big difference.

actually this should have been my job description


A proper Developer job posting should look like this:

  • Knows theory of how to design a functional program from start to end
    hello world
  • Able to talk to a team without sounding like a self-centered prick or moron (or both)
    or is smart enough to get away with it (im not)
  • Knows programming to a point where they can parse posts and articles to get relevant syntax to match their semantics
    also googlefu blackbelt
  • Can put together a database without creating a pile of garbage
    we dont need more tables than your dennys if you can just be a little variable
  • Can tell customers exactly what they want to hear without making promises they can't keep (the bullshit clause)
    or can deal with staying late for no pay to keep the promises of the customer facing jerks



I identify with this.

Except the last one. I always get paid.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-22 22:10:44
October 22 2015 22:09 GMT
#13765
Question for someone with some stock experience.

Imprimis Pharmaceuticals is the company that today has released a super affordable ($1) alternative to the medicine that Turing Pharma jacked up recently. It also appears that Imprimis is doing this for other medications as well.

Their current stock price (IMMY) is just shy of $6. Worth?
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-22 22:30:17
October 22 2015 22:14 GMT
#13766
On October 23 2015 07:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Question for someone with some stock experience.

Imprimis Pharmaceuticals is the company that today has released a super affordable ($1) alternative to the medicine that Turing Pharma jacked up recently. It also appears that Imprimis is doing this for other medications as well.

Their current stock price (IMMY) is just shy of $6. Worth?

All of what you just told us is part of the market price. Except you know more than the market (which I doubt). Stocks is gambling without insider info.
If any of us knew which direction stocks go we would be Warren Buffet and not sit here.
Off-season = best season
crimethinking
Profile Joined February 2015
Vietnam765 Posts
October 22 2015 22:17 GMT
#13767
About CS, I saw a bunch of SJW liberal arts college girls plunging into CS because it seemed to be ez moni after graduation. All of them quit after 1 semester, and they bitched about having to do math on paper because "computer" science. Jesus...

I'm bulking up on statistics for CS (data science), so far it has been pretty decent.
ktrolster | OMG | worldelite
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
October 22 2015 22:23 GMT
#13768
On October 23 2015 06:52 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 06:14 ComaDose wrote:
On October 23 2015 06:08 Requizen wrote:
On October 23 2015 06:02 ComaDose wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:58 Requizen wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:48 Seuss wrote:but most introductory courses are filled with people who think programmers smash their keyboards for a few minutes and then play video games all day.

Yeah, jerks.

I smash my keyboard for a few hours and then post about games all day. Big difference.

actually this should have been my job description


A proper Developer job posting should look like this:

  • Knows theory of how to design a functional program from start to end
    hello world
  • Able to talk to a team without sounding like a self-centered prick or moron (or both)
    or is smart enough to get away with it (im not)
  • Knows programming to a point where they can parse posts and articles to get relevant syntax to match their semantics
    also googlefu blackbelt
  • Can put together a database without creating a pile of garbage
    we dont need more tables than your dennys if you can just be a little variable
  • Can tell customers exactly what they want to hear without making promises they can't keep (the bullshit clause)
    or can deal with staying late for no pay to keep the promises of the customer facing jerks



I identify with this.

Except the last one. I always get paid.

salary would really suck without the bonus
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-22 22:31:59
October 22 2015 22:31 GMT
#13769
On October 23 2015 07:17 crimethinking wrote:
I'm bulking up on statistics for CS (data science), so far it has been pretty decent.


That's really what I wish I did, because that's what my job is moving towards. That and GIS, cuz we're implementing geotagging for our reporting platform with mapping shiz. That and visualizations. But it's been slow going cuz we have a massive patch soon.

On October 23 2015 07:14 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 07:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Question for someone with some stock experience.

Imprimis Pharmaceuticals is the company that today has released a super affordable ($1) alternative to the medicine that Turing Pharma jacked up recently. It also appears that Imprimis is doing this for other medications as well.

Their current stock price (IMMY) is just shy of $6. Worth?

All of what you just told us is part of the market price. Except you know more than the market (which I doubt). Stocks is gambling without insider info.
If any of us knew which direction stocks go we would be Warren Buffet and not sit here.


Oh, sure, I realize that. I'm just curious if people had thoughts - I know there are people here who pay attention to pharma shit.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 22 2015 22:40 GMT
#13770
On October 23 2015 07:14 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 07:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Question for someone with some stock experience.

Imprimis Pharmaceuticals is the company that today has released a super affordable ($1) alternative to the medicine that Turing Pharma jacked up recently. It also appears that Imprimis is doing this for other medications as well.

Their current stock price (IMMY) is just shy of $6. Worth?

All of what you just told us is part of the market price. Except you know more than the market (which I doubt). Stocks is gambling without insider info.
If any of us knew which direction stocks go we would be Warren Buffet and not sit here.


No.

We would be Warren buffet AND sit here.

Probably with a drink.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
October 22 2015 23:09 GMT
#13771
Frankly, I'd be sitting as close to the Mexican border as I could, maybe the other side with some senoritas and a cold drink, maybe in Margaritaville.

Or in Cluj`whateverthefuck for DH
Steam: rook492
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-23 00:59:38
October 23 2015 00:44 GMT
#13772
Going through the Exalted 3E pdf right now.

Damn they really stepped up in the art/fluff combos. The intro story is wicked hype even though I already read it once in plain text when it first leaked. Flipping through a bunch of the others and it seems solid. The exigent one is SiiiiiiiCK.

Character sheet is weak, but there'll be better online editable ones soon enough. Lots of minor errors (hyphens and quotation marks in random places), but this is just the final draft and they're getting public input on it before publishing and adding the index/bookmarks and such. The backgroud images don't line up properly either for the first half of the book. It's like they accidentally added a page somewhere, and then at some point accidentally added a second one that made the second half right.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 23 2015 01:28 GMT
#13773


Parnage, Soniv, and Shelke; hyped??
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-23 01:41:52
October 23 2015 01:33 GMT
#13774
On October 23 2015 05:48 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 05:10 Requizen wrote:
On October 23 2015 04:59 Gahlo wrote:
On October 22 2015 23:58 Alaric wrote:
I know it, but it's a literary term in French (mulâtre), deprecated and all. It's probably offensive in the same way nigger would be deemed offensive, because it was the term commonly used to refer to mixed-race people at a time when they and black people were still being looked down upon.
Talking about a "nègre" (literally the same as nigger, in the context of what it points at, regardless of how it's perceived) in France probably wouldn't be as offensive as in the US though. I'd want to say it wouldn't be offensive period, but I'm not sure and I do find it a bit dumb (I don't know the "recent" history of its usage in the US/English language, but here if you use nègre most people will first be surprised that you use such an out of fashion word, then maybe they'll find it offensive (I'm not sure whether it's because of the perceived meaning of the word, or because it's perceived as deliberately using an obsolete term to drill a point across)).

There's an extra level of tiptoeing around racism towards black people because of slavery in the US.

As for school stories, there was a programming class I took in highschool(largely basic and visual basic) and I finished the entire semester's work in 2 weeks and then sat on the internet for the rest of the time. Meanwhile people had trouble finishing half of the work in total.

Do people seriously have issues with programming? It's seriously the easiest shit and you can learn 90% of what they teach you in school from Google. The are only a few things that I took from college courses that I couldn't look up again on Stack Overflow or w3school.


Short answer: Yes, programming (especially good programming) is hard, unintuitive for most, and difficult to teach. If it was easy you and I would be earning minimum wage.

Long answer: Story time.

Freshman year a friend of mine who was also a CS major called me up for some help. I was effectively a year ahead of him due to AP courses and such so we weren't in the same classes, so I saw no issue giving him a little help.

His homework assignment was to take X/Y inputs from a couple of fields on a webpage and draw a rectangle when a button was pressed, and he was having trouble. After a minute or so I realized the problem was that he didn't understand parameters.

I spent 4 hours teaching him what the hell a parameter was.

He simply could not make the connection that the values he was retrieving from the inputs could be saved to variables and/or passed into a function. He kept hard coding numbers into his function for drawing the rectangle.

I tried everything. Explaining the concept failed. Demonstrating the concept failed. Walking him through the solution failed. Metaphors, analogies, examples, and anything else I could think of failed. I don't even remember what eventually did the trick I was too busy being grateful it was over. He simply needed a mental bulldozer to break through one of the simplest and most basic aspects of programming.

Why was someone like that a CS major? He liked computers so he thought it might be nice.

Basically any 101 course for programming is primarily made up of people who like computers and don't realize that programming is way, way different from browsing the web. You also have people like Gahlo who vastly outskill the course and people who will actually learn a lot from it and do well, but most introductory courses are filled with people who think programmers smash their keyboards for a few minutes and then play video games all day.

to be honest i think at that point it is the profs fault. it took me 3 different professors before i felt like i understood and could write recursive functions.

the hardest part of my cs degree so far(3rd year) has been the math requirements and the computer architecture class.
the programming itself has been the easiest bar far.

On October 23 2015 06:08 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 06:02 ComaDose wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:58 Requizen wrote:
On October 23 2015 05:48 Seuss wrote:but most introductory courses are filled with people who think programmers smash their keyboards for a few minutes and then play video games all day.

Yeah, jerks.

I smash my keyboard for a few hours and then post about games all day. Big difference.

actually this should have been my job description


A proper Developer job posting should look like this:

  • Knows theory of how to design a functional program from start to end
  • Able to talk to a team without sounding like a self-centered prick or moron (or both)
  • Knows programming to a point where they can parse posts and articles to get relevant syntax to match their semantics
  • Can put together a database without creating a pile of garbage
  • Can tell customers exactly what they want to hear without making promises they can't keep (the bullshit clause)

i thought these were the guys that get picked out from their dev jobs and moved to project management
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 23 2015 01:39 GMT
#13775
On October 23 2015 07:40 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 07:14 Redox wrote:
On October 23 2015 07:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Question for someone with some stock experience.

Imprimis Pharmaceuticals is the company that today has released a super affordable ($1) alternative to the medicine that Turing Pharma jacked up recently. It also appears that Imprimis is doing this for other medications as well.

Their current stock price (IMMY) is just shy of $6. Worth?

All of what you just told us is part of the market price. Except you know more than the market (which I doubt). Stocks is gambling without insider info.
If any of us knew which direction stocks go we would be Warren Buffet and not sit here.


No.

We would be Warren buffet AND sit here.

Probably with a drink.


KwarK's/my easy plan to getting rich:

1. Make a budget, stop buying dumb shit
2. Save money for rainy day
3. Max out retirement or put as much as you can
4. Put money in index funds, preferably Vanguard or something similar
5. When the market takes a dump, seize it as an opportunity to buy a little more
6. Retire comfortably
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 23 2015 01:41 GMT
#13776
On October 23 2015 10:39 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 07:40 Ketara wrote:
On October 23 2015 07:14 Redox wrote:
On October 23 2015 07:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Question for someone with some stock experience.

Imprimis Pharmaceuticals is the company that today has released a super affordable ($1) alternative to the medicine that Turing Pharma jacked up recently. It also appears that Imprimis is doing this for other medications as well.

Their current stock price (IMMY) is just shy of $6. Worth?

All of what you just told us is part of the market price. Except you know more than the market (which I doubt). Stocks is gambling without insider info.
If any of us knew which direction stocks go we would be Warren Buffet and not sit here.


No.

We would be Warren buffet AND sit here.

Probably with a drink.


KwarK's/my easy plan to getting rich:

1. Make a budget, stop buying dumb shit
2. Save money for rainy day
3. Max out retirement or put as much as you can
4. Put money in index funds, preferably Vanguard or something similar
5. When the market takes a dump, seize it as an opportunity to buy a little more
6. Retire comfortably


But what if my 401k is in Vanguard???
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-23 01:45:11
October 23 2015 01:43 GMT
#13777
So, this is a thing now.

Low Priority games now have to be won in order to count.
Fixed a bug that could cause periodic hitching.
The number of Low Priority games needed to complete has been reduced.


http://www.dota2.com/news/updates/

I love this approach, let's put all the raging assholes together and force them to work together to get out, if they cant, LMFaO wHO caREs hAhA xD
Steam: rook492
crimethinking
Profile Joined February 2015
Vietnam765 Posts
October 23 2015 01:47 GMT
#13778
On October 23 2015 10:43 Crusnik wrote:
So, this is a thing now.

Show nested quote +
Low Priority games now have to be won in order to count.
Fixed a bug that could cause periodic hitching.
The number of Low Priority games needed to complete has been reduced.


http://www.dota2.com/news/updates/

I love this approach, let's put all the raging assholes together and force them to work together to get out, if they cant, LMFaO wHO caREs hAhA xD

I can taste the salt of Reddit from light years away.
ktrolster | OMG | worldelite
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
October 23 2015 01:49 GMT
#13779
LD is pretty salty as well, I just find it amazing that they did it. Not that I ever get it, I got in once, before they changed it to all random for abandoning, like a year and a half ago, but that was it.
Steam: rook492
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 23 2015 01:53 GMT
#13780
On October 23 2015 10:47 crimethinking wrote:
I can taste the salt of Reddit from light years away.

It was a suggestion that originated on Reddit, LOL.
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