Off-Topic General Discussion - Page 5133

On June 04 2015 05:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also also I'm being a huge nerd now because I was looking stuff up about voice actors and I'm alone in my apartment trying to imitate League champions.

I actually think I have a few of them decently well

On June 04 2015 05:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also also I'm being a huge nerd now because I was looking stuff up about voice actors and I'm alone in my apartment trying to imitate League champions.

I actually think I have a few of them decently well

On June 04 2015 05:35 Alaric wrote:
Eve?

Goddammit LT!

On June 04 2015 05:37 Zdrastochye wrote:
I do a killer Millhouse Manastorm impression.

On June 04 2015 05:32 thejuju wrote:


There's only 3 touhou metal bands I consider somewhat good. Everyone else is amateur.

On June 04 2015 05:32 Alaric wrote:

Usual cheekiness in implying that you're the one with bad taste by liking some metal covers of Touhou, reference to your "all metal covers of classical are shit" and all that.

Then actual, non-loaded (although I expect the answer to be "no") question: are there some musical genres which you deem fit to cover classical music?

On June 04 2015 05:57 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:


Hence why I said "OK" and nothing overly adulatory.

(Crow's Claw, Demetori ... ?)


A classical music "cover" is essentially different orchestra/conductors/performers playing the piece.

On June 04 2015 05:57 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:


Hence I said "OK" and nothing overly adulatory.

(Crow's Claw, Demetori ... ?)

On June 04 2015 05:57 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:


Classical music is not meant to be covered, which is why instrumentation is clearly laid out (often painstakingly) by composers. A classical music "cover" is essentially different orchestra/conductors/performers playing the piece.

Touhou music is simple and often derivative, and lends itself much more readily to remixing, covering, etc.

On June 04 2015 06:02 Zdrastochye wrote:

I may be missing something, but isn't that what a cover is? The same piece performed by a different person/band/whatever.

On June 04 2015 06:07 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Ravel's orchestration of Pictures at an Exhibition (to take an example of something that was specifically discussed here) is better than the Mussorgsky original.

Not familiar with Draw the Emotional I'll check it out next time I want to listen to Touhou...



Er, yes, what are you trying to say?

Classical music is not meant to be covered, which is why instrumentation is clearly laid out (often painstakingly) by composers. A classical music "cover" is essentially different orchestra/conductors/performers playing the piece.

On June 04 2015 06:35 MagnusWolf wrote:


This is not always strictly true, a decent amount of chamber music is written with the option of substituing instruments ( for instance using a violin instead of a flute or viola) and in fact some pieces were advertised as being playable with just a harpsichord instead of an ensemble. Not to mention that a significant amount of classical music was written before the invention of the pianoforte, and as such was originally for the harpsichord.

On June 04 2015 06:35 MagnusWolf wrote:


This is not always strictly true, a decent amount of chamber music is written with the option of substituing instruments ( for instance using a violin instead of a flute or viola) and in fact some pieces were advertised as being playable with just a harpsichord instead of an ensemble. Not to mention that a significant amount of classical music was written before the invention of the pianoforte, and as such was originally for the harpsichord.

On June 04 2015 06:18 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:

are you saying you just don't like how classical music sounds when it's performed by a metal band or are you saying that you think the way it's performed isn't very good (aka you could do a good metal version of it the particular version just isn't it)?

(this question is directed at Cheep btw)

hopefully the question makes sense


I think Zdrastochye is trying to say that if It's just a straight cover of the original score that he's not sure how you can call it bad. (although the changing of instrumentation could be your reason I suppose)

On June 04 2015 06:47 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:


Yes you're right, and of course what I said was a gross generalization. However, there is a big difference with following composer's directions to alter a piece (instrumentation, cadenzas, ossias, transcriptions, etc.) and playing it in a way that is both vastly different and contrary to composer directions.

To the point below-


A metal cover of a classical piece is, by constraints of the instruments, usually a poor cover. The timbre is significantly different from classical instruments, and as such requires a careful rebalancing of parts and harmonies to achieve an aesthetically pleasing effect. Indeed, the strict adherence to a score is probably -not- ideal when transferring a classical piece to an electric guitar. Not to mention that a faithful adherence to the score is impossible when trying to play a piece designated for an orchestra of dozens of performers and 10+ instruments/parts into a 4- 6 member metal outfit.

The addition of incessant, often heaven handed, percussion is also very objectionable. Especially considering percussion in modern bands is mostly a glorified metronome as opposed to anything that adds color or complexity to the music in the case of a timpani in a symphony orchestra to give just one example.

Now, often, there is nothing about the melody that inherently precludes a metal cover. However, metal covers (and other pop/rock/etc. covers) rarely, if ever, go into the amount of thought and effort necessary to recompose the piece for their instruments.