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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 29 2014 16:05 GMT
#21041
Holy fuck, Instagram video either needs a volume bar or mute button.

My fucking ears
It's your boy Guzma!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 16:06:06
January 29 2014 16:05 GMT
#21042
On January 30 2014 01:04 Shelke14 wrote:
Snowing pretty hard, driving down the highway and police vehicles and ambulance going the other way... Hopefully no one was hurt but if it shuts down the highway I'm going to lose it


I'd assume it would affect the highway going the other way...so unless you're trying to drive back in the near future, I wouldn't be too concerned.

On January 30 2014 01:05 Requizen wrote:
Holy fuck, Instagram video either needs a volume bar or mute button.

My fucking ears


It has a mute button. It looks like a little "x"
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 16:18:36
January 29 2014 16:17 GMT
#21043
On January 30 2014 00:55 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 00:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I've seen "The Egg" pop up way too often over the years, and I must say, it is not a very good story at all. Poor writing, meaningless concept, all wrapped up in a nice little package of pseudo-intellectual masturbatory philosophizing. Did I mention it was terrible writing?

I wouldn't care if not for the fact that it gets reposted and brought up every couple weeks on Reddit, at which point legions of plebeians who have never read anything more worthwhile than Harry Potter assemble to heap undeserving praise on it. Sickening.

Eh, I found the concept itself pretty neat, however it's thrown out there, incomplete, rather than explored or even just left to interpretation so you can't really call it deep. It had potential, but as is it felt a bit shallow in the end: "the guy finds the meaning of life question dumb but refuses to say anything of them; also he spends his raising a child/incubating an egg in his own words; why does he tell the chick he's not like them and wouldn't understand, when he actually admits at the end that he is, just at an early stage of development", etc.

I mean, leaving this kind of details out often makes sense, if not symbolically then at least not to clog the story with superfluous details. But in cases like this it feels like oversights instead, and it hurts the value of whatever concept he's developing.
I wouldn't criticise the writing too much if the goal was to explore a concept over telling a story, though.


Unless your concept is truly, mind-blowingly amazing and novel, concept alone is never enough.

Everyone, and I mean everyone, has ideas and concepts. The point of creating a piece of written work is to satisfactorily explore those ideas, and it's why not everyone can be a good author.

Concepts are easy, cheap, and utterly banal by themselves.

On January 30 2014 00:51 Kyrie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 00:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I've seen "The Egg" pop up way too often over the years, and I must say, it is not a very good story at all. Poor writing, meaningless concept, all wrapped up in a nice little package of pseudo-intellectual masturbatory philosophizing. Did I mention it was terrible writing?

I wouldn't care if not for the fact that it gets reposted and brought up every couple weeks on Reddit, at which point legions of plebeians who have never read anything more worthwhile than Harry Potter assemble to heap undeserving praise on it. Sickening.

i think the last question is a better execution of a (somewhat) similar concept


The Last Question is cool.
TranslatorBaa!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 29 2014 16:19 GMT
#21044
I just imagine cheep sitting in a hidden great library in NYC wearing a robe and sipping cognac with a cigar
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Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
January 29 2014 16:27 GMT
#21045
On January 30 2014 01:05 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 01:04 Shelke14 wrote:
Snowing pretty hard, driving down the highway and police vehicles and ambulance going the other way... Hopefully no one was hurt but if it shuts down the highway I'm going to lose it


I'd assume it would affect the highway going the other way...so unless you're trying to drive back in the near future, I wouldn't be too concerned.

Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 01:05 Requizen wrote:
Holy fuck, Instagram video either needs a volume bar or mute button.

My fucking ears


It has a mute button. It looks like a little "x"



If the crash is even a decent size they shut down both ways. (Up here most highways are one lane each way except for hills where the side going up gets two lanes to pass semi's) so any accident usually gets both ways shut down unless the person went into the ditch. Ps the last thing you want to do is go into the ditch up here, some ditches up here mean 30 foot drops.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 29 2014 16:36 GMT
#21046
+1 to Cheep opinion.

So what an utter bullshit day I've had thus far.
Had to leave my busted car in the school parking lot overnight.
Woke up this morning at 6 'cause baby. He's teething and absolutely miserable most of the time lately. Has had a runny/plugged nose and a cough for 3 weeks now, and it wakes him early/middle of the night/whenever.
Had to call CAA (equivalent of AAA) to try and get them to come and boost my car. Wife drops me off at school, I sit and wait on hold for them. Eventually they answer then show up.
Boost does dick all, starter won't even run.
Guy leaves, tells me they'll get a tow truck. This is at 8:30, class starts 9:30.
Tow truck doesn't show 'till 10:30.
Tow truck guy finally shows, is the most interesting part of my day.
First thing he says to me after he's got the car on his truck and we're heading to the garage?
"If it was always this cold here in Canada maybe we wouldn't have so many immigrants."
Fucking Waterloo.
Guy goes on to tell me he's from St. John's and goes on (because the subject of my schooling came up) about how he's amblyopic with 20/200 in his left eye because when he was 2 he had strabismus surgery but they patched the wrong eye. (Actually pretty damn interesting---we learn about this stuff all the time.)
Get to garage, they tell me they have no idea how long it's gonna take.
Gotta cab back to school because I have a quiz at 1:30.
Was supposed to leave class early because Dr. appt in Mississauga 'cause my stomach is all kinds of fucked up, but don't have car so have to cancel for 2nd week in a row.
Gotta suffer at LEAST another week of shitty stomach including trying to get through 9 hours of clinic on Tuesdays without running to bathroom constantly.

UGHHHHHHHHHH
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 29 2014 16:50 GMT
#21047
On January 30 2014 01:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
+1 to Cheep opinion.

So what an utter bullshit day I've had thus far.
Had to leave my busted car in the school parking lot overnight.
Woke up this morning at 6 'cause baby. He's teething and absolutely miserable most of the time lately. Has had a runny/plugged nose and a cough for 3 weeks now, and it wakes him early/middle of the night/whenever.
Had to call CAA (equivalent of AAA) to try and get them to come and boost my car. Wife drops me off at school, I sit and wait on hold for them. Eventually they answer then show up.
Boost does dick all, starter won't even run.
Guy leaves, tells me they'll get a tow truck. This is at 8:30, class starts 9:30.
Tow truck doesn't show 'till 10:30.
Tow truck guy finally shows, is the most interesting part of my day.
First thing he says to me after he's got the car on his truck and we're heading to the garage?
"If it was always this cold here in Canada maybe we wouldn't have so many immigrants."
Fucking Waterloo.
Guy goes on to tell me he's from St. John's and goes on (because the subject of my schooling came up) about how he's amblyopic with 20/200 in his left eye because when he was 2 he had strabismus surgery but they patched the wrong eye. (Actually pretty damn interesting---we learn about this stuff all the time.)
Get to garage, they tell me they have no idea how long it's gonna take.
Gotta cab back to school because I have a quiz at 1:30.
Was supposed to leave class early because Dr. appt in Mississauga 'cause my stomach is all kinds of fucked up, but don't have car so have to cancel for 2nd week in a row.
Gotta suffer at LEAST another week of shitty stomach including trying to get through 9 hours of clinic on Tuesdays without running to bathroom constantly.

UGHHHHHHHHHH


damn son

/ff
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 16:54:11
January 29 2014 16:50 GMT
#21048
On January 30 2014 00:51 Kyrie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 00:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I've seen "The Egg" pop up way too often over the years, and I must say, it is not a very good story at all. Poor writing, meaningless concept, all wrapped up in a nice little package of pseudo-intellectual masturbatory philosophizing. Did I mention it was terrible writing?

I wouldn't care if not for the fact that it gets reposted and brought up every couple weeks on Reddit, at which point legions of plebeians who have never read anything more worthwhile than Harry Potter assemble to heap undeserving praise on it. Sickening.

i think the last question is a better execution of a (somewhat) similar concept

The problem with having anxiety and existentialism issues is that you can't read these kind of things for long before your mind wwanders and gets anxious at the prospect of reading something down the page that'll fuel said existentialism and lead to some more anxiety.
TL;DR: fuck you winter, I want my sun exposure back.

I'm gonna spoiler the answer to Cheep because unfortunately for Roffles I'm still way better at shitting useless wall of texts than QQ.
+ Show Spoiler +
I can agree with you in absolute terms, Cheep, and I assume that's how you're treating the subject anyway. However if the goal isn't to produce a work of litterature but to work out a concept and throw it at other people so they can toy with it, kinda raising awareness about it, then you don't necessarily need to prepare the neatest of packages for it.
As a disclaimer, my thoughts tend to spread all over the place and I'm not a rigorous person at all, so Cheep would probably find my views understandably lazy.

I don't remember who said that everything's been done anyway, and a point could be made with it, that if you want to do something (like explore a concept) you'd have to do it better than what's already available to be worth it.
But, in short, sometimes it's not about creating something that didn't exist but showing people something they didn't know about. It's like, say, a parent crafting tales for his children: sure he could pick the Grimm brothers', for example, but it's not about teaching his children the "best" work there is, nor creating a new best himself. He just wants to entertain them and make them discover tales in general.

TL;DR, I said I wouldn't be too hard on stuff like the egg because the guy didn't have pretentions when writing it (according to phyvo's post), so I stop myself at "hey, the concept's neat, it could give people food for thought".

You can definitely retort "The parent would save time and teach his children better by directly using Grimm's tales then", assuming that he knows about them. Or that it's more efficient to give people the best material available as a starting point over giving them food for thought and letting them do the research (for said best material) themselves. But then we get into cultural knowledge, how to spread it, and "Because of cultural construct reddit "the egg" is becoming the standard over "the last question" as it's what the majority discovered the subject through", which is another discussion entirely.*

* not that I'd relish having it, but there's already a wall of text so better stop here, plus I'm not very cultivated and wouldn't be able to make it non-one-sided. :/
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 29 2014 16:51 GMT
#21049
Yo WTF. Your TLDR can't be 3 paragraphs long.
God Bless
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 29 2014 16:52 GMT
#21050
On January 30 2014 01:51 Roffles wrote:
Yo WTF. Your TLDR can't be 3 paragraphs long.


more like - your tl;dr is not allowed to be longer than the point you were trying to make
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 16:57:26
January 29 2014 16:56 GMT
#21051
Yeah the TL;DR was just the couple lines. So I bolded them instead of just the acronym and I spoilered the whole thing.
Man, imagine if we could spoiler walls of bricks as easily as walls of text, noone would complain about shitty buildings hiding the landscape ever.

I'm trying to organise my thoughts but looks like if a teacher ever despairs of being bad at his job I can always direct him to one of my posts and he'll feel competent and concise.

TL;DR you were right. To DR, I mean.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 29 2014 16:59 GMT
#21052
alaric, I feel like a day in your brain would be an interesting and confusing excursion
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
January 29 2014 17:00 GMT
#21053
hes got 2 tldrs in the same post thats so alaric
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
January 29 2014 17:02 GMT
#21054
You know you're Alaric when...

You TLDR your TLDR.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
January 29 2014 17:04 GMT
#21055
yo dawg i heard you liked tldrs
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35167 Posts
January 29 2014 17:06 GMT
#21056
Hello there bed. Let's never leave each other ever again.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 29 2014 17:12 GMT
#21057
They're not nested! I was answering to two different posts. You guys...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
January 29 2014 17:34 GMT
#21058
A day in my brain would be fun too. Always happy, never not happy. Smiling and being nice to others all day. :D
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
January 29 2014 17:39 GMT
#21059
The feel when you find old music on your phone that your forgot about for infinity years.

The Prodigy is so freaking good.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 29 2014 17:41 GMT
#21060
On January 30 2014 02:39 Cixah wrote:
The feel when you find old music on your phone that your forgot about for infinity years.

The Prodigy is so freaking good.

Invaders MUST die
It's your boy Guzma!
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