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On October 24 2012 11:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 11:32 TeuTeu wrote:On October 24 2012 10:42 jcarlsoniv wrote: Twitter account set up. @TLCastingGolems. Follow and shtuff! Hard to follow something that doesn't exist. :/ but...but...I'm looking at it right now!
I search on Twitter, it tells me no results . I search google, and it brings up the TL syndra thread.
Tweet @machadogeoffrey to prove you exist :D. Then I can follow.
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well i did post before i was banned.......
anyway new goal when im unbanned as i get unbanned day before new season - goal is 1600 im prolly about 1100 skill right now.
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You might want to start casting gamers without TLers if you want to train for that thing. I think the most appeal your casting has to us is that you are related to the most players you cast games off. That's also the most you talk about inbetween the action. And even if the players are only two TLers and the rest are randoms or friends of them, you still talk about how liquidian X would have done this and so on. If you do this for a non liquid audience, it will obviously fail. So, find a style for non-TL-games.
Your chemistry is really good which makes the stream entertaining, but i sometimes felt like the play-by-lay bored you compared to talking about the ziggs skin or sth like that Might just been, because the level of play wasn't that good.
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On October 24 2012 11:59 tissue wrote: If you want some eyeballs and exposure on youtube etc, here's an idea, you could go over the recent s2 championships, pick out some interesting highlights and talk about them from a higher-level perspective, perhaps slow-mo some teamfights or whatever, where you can go over each player's decisions, who the AD carry is shooting, to save or use cc, to hold or blow summoner spells, etc.
Just my two cents. Oh man, in depth analysis on the S2 tournament stuff would be SO COOL.
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I just watched the TL inhouse of the 21th and that was pretty good I think. I would just lower a bit Soniv's mic and WaveofShadow needs a bot more intensity in his commentating. The fights were very clear to understand, there were some dicussions about items, the meta, etc... The only annoying thing was probably you guys laughing a bit too much at the start but it didn't last very long. Good job !
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Yo Soniv me and my schol hall are doing practice games to prepare for a LAN in K State this Friday later tonight if you wanna cast those. Though we have been havin some slight lag issues in the hall lately, but nothing too detrimental
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On October 24 2012 23:06 sylverfyre wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 11:59 tissue wrote: If you want some eyeballs and exposure on youtube etc, here's an idea, you could go over the recent s2 championships, pick out some interesting highlights and talk about them from a higher-level perspective, perhaps slow-mo some teamfights or whatever, where you can go over each player's decisions, who the AD carry is shooting, to save or use cc, to hold or blow summoner spells, etc.
Just my two cents. Oh man, in depth analysis on the S2 tournament stuff would be SO COOL. Any in-depth analysis we could do would pale in comparison to what the guys who are writing up the post-Championship writeup are going to do. I've also watched people re-commentate pro matches before (both SC2 and LoL) and it always just seems inferior to me. If the demand is high enough though I guess.....
As far as casting goes, until Soniv gets his program fixed, we're on hold....
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In the meantime, practice not laughing while you're saying stuff. Laughing is cool, so is saying stuff. But that doesn't mean you should mix it.
I dunno which of you does it (voices 2hard), and it's no big deal.
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On October 25 2012 00:39 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 23:06 sylverfyre wrote:On October 24 2012 11:59 tissue wrote: If you want some eyeballs and exposure on youtube etc, here's an idea, you could go over the recent s2 championships, pick out some interesting highlights and talk about them from a higher-level perspective, perhaps slow-mo some teamfights or whatever, where you can go over each player's decisions, who the AD carry is shooting, to save or use cc, to hold or blow summoner spells, etc.
Just my two cents. Oh man, in depth analysis on the S2 tournament stuff would be SO COOL. Any in-depth analysis we could do would pale in comparison to what the guys who are writing up the post-Championship writeup are going to do. I've also watched people re-commentate pro matches before (both SC2 and LoL) and it always just seems inferior to me. If the demand is high enough though I guess..... As far as casting goes, until Soniv gets his program fixed, we're on hold....
I ran game as admin earlier and it worked, so it looks like we may be back in business.
I'm probably the one you hear laughing because FFSplit captures everything coming through my mic, even the when I'm push-to-talking for TS.
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Nonono. The dude that is currently talking laughing mid-sentence. Bugs the shit out of me.
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On October 25 2012 00:39 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 23:06 sylverfyre wrote:On October 24 2012 11:59 tissue wrote: If you want some eyeballs and exposure on youtube etc, here's an idea, you could go over the recent s2 championships, pick out some interesting highlights and talk about them from a higher-level perspective, perhaps slow-mo some teamfights or whatever, where you can go over each player's decisions, who the AD carry is shooting, to save or use cc, to hold or blow summoner spells, etc.
Just my two cents. Oh man, in depth analysis on the S2 tournament stuff would be SO COOL. Any in-depth analysis we could do would pale in comparison to what the guys who are writing up the post-Championship writeup are going to do. I've also watched people re-commentate pro matches before (both SC2 and LoL) and it always just seems inferior to me. If the demand is high enough though I guess..... As far as casting goes, until Soniv gets his program fixed, we're on hold....
All due props to our TL press team (serious props) but there is a huge difference between a write-up and someone walking you through events visually.
For example, take the following snippet from my game 1 analysis:
+ Show Spoiler +Where it all went wrong for TPA was the next teamfight. TPA expected Frost to attempt a flat out retreat after taking dragon, leading Toyz and Stanley to use Anivia's wall and Olaf's axe to try to cut off CloudTemplar and Shy's escape. Frost immediately turned to fight, making the placement of both abilities worthless. If Anivia's wall had been placed to block the rest of Frost it would have at least forced Flashes in order to enter the fight.
Every member of TPA was bunched up, not expecting Frost to simply turn around and fight. As a result when CloudTemplar nailed Toyz with his Bandage Toss all five members of TPA, and most importantly Bebe on Vayne, were caught in Amumu's ultimate. For a critical two seconds Bebe was unable to make any contribution to the fight, wasting a significant portion of Vayne's ultimate. At the same time the stun from Bandage Toss prevented Toyz from exerting any zone control, and when he attempted to use his ultimate Madlife hit him with Sona's, cancelling the Glacial Storm. Toyz was egged before he could do anything significant. While Bebe avoided most of the AoE, these issues allowed RapidStar's Karthus to sit untouched in the middle of TPA for almost the entire fight. By the time Toyz resurrected and TPA burst RapidStar down they were already dangerously low on health. With Woong's Ezreal at full health, Requiem incoming, and TPA's crowd control expended to kill RapidStar, survival was impossible.
Read that all you want, but it will remain fairly abstract unless you go beyond the text. Reading my analysis tells you what happened, reading it with a video of the fight as a reference shows you what happened, but having someone guide you through the fight as a cast involves you in what happened.
What I'm saying is doing a Day9 style, "Here are the important moments in a game, what happened, why it happened, and how you can use this to improve." is valuable. Even if all you do is take the analysis of our subforum's superbrains and present it in the concrete world of the game it occurred in you'd be doing a service to people who are visual learners.
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On October 25 2012 01:36 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 00:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 24 2012 23:06 sylverfyre wrote:On October 24 2012 11:59 tissue wrote: If you want some eyeballs and exposure on youtube etc, here's an idea, you could go over the recent s2 championships, pick out some interesting highlights and talk about them from a higher-level perspective, perhaps slow-mo some teamfights or whatever, where you can go over each player's decisions, who the AD carry is shooting, to save or use cc, to hold or blow summoner spells, etc.
Just my two cents. Oh man, in depth analysis on the S2 tournament stuff would be SO COOL. Any in-depth analysis we could do would pale in comparison to what the guys who are writing up the post-Championship writeup are going to do. I've also watched people re-commentate pro matches before (both SC2 and LoL) and it always just seems inferior to me. If the demand is high enough though I guess..... As far as casting goes, until Soniv gets his program fixed, we're on hold.... All due props to our TL press team ( serious props) but there is a huge difference between a write-up and someone walking you through events visually. For example, take the following snippet from my game 1 analysis: Show nested quote ++ Show Spoiler +Where it all went wrong for TPA was the next teamfight. TPA expected Frost to attempt a flat out retreat after taking dragon, leading Toyz and Stanley to use Anivia's wall and Olaf's axe to try to cut off CloudTemplar and Shy's escape. Frost immediately turned to fight, making the placement of both abilities worthless. If Anivia's wall had been placed to block the rest of Frost it would have at least forced Flashes in order to enter the fight.
Every member of TPA was bunched up, not expecting Frost to simply turn around and fight. As a result when CloudTemplar nailed Toyz with his Bandage Toss all five members of TPA, and most importantly Bebe on Vayne, were caught in Amumu's ultimate. For a critical two seconds Bebe was unable to make any contribution to the fight, wasting a significant portion of Vayne's ultimate. At the same time the stun from Bandage Toss prevented Toyz from exerting any zone control, and when he attempted to use his ultimate Madlife hit him with Sona's, cancelling the Glacial Storm. Toyz was egged before he could do anything significant. While Bebe avoided most of the AoE, these issues allowed RapidStar's Karthus to sit untouched in the middle of TPA for almost the entire fight. By the time Toyz resurrected and TPA burst RapidStar down they were already dangerously low on health. With Woong's Ezreal at full health, Requiem incoming, and TPA's crowd control expended to kill RapidStar, survival was impossible. Read that all you want, but it will remain fairly abstract unless you go beyond the text. Reading my analysis tells you what happened, reading it with a video of the fight as a reference shows you what happened, but having someone guide you through the fight as a cast involves you in what happened. What I'm saying is doing a Day9 style, "Here are the important moments in a game, what happened, why it happened, and how you can use this to improve." is valuable. Even if all you do is take the analysis of our subforum's superbrains and present it in the concrete world of the game it occurred in you'd be doing a service to people who are visual learners. Ah I see what you mean, so more like Day[9] daily style pause-and-analyze. That's definitely doable, though it's really a different kind of thing and not really a cast. Again, if it's something that people want to see we can always add different kinds of content and start creating Youtube vids as well rather than just sending whatever we happen to cast to Youtube.
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Sorry for the poor comment but please don't stop being funny on your casts. Trying to stay professional is great but we've got already too many FBI agent-like casting couples on youtube. I really like that your casting sounds casual, relaxed and self-assured, while giving lots of high-level insight and great play-by-play narration. I wouldn't like you to temper your banter or sound too serious. In fact, I'd like you both to be even more "mental" and deviate often.
I think your casting is already really good. Its strongest point is that it isn't boring, as opposed to 95% of the self-entitled casters (including most professional casters). There are a few little things that can be improved, but I can't clearly identify them yet; I'll try to point them out when you upload more videos (so I can notice them by having them repeat casting after casting). But to do that you I need more videos! kekeke
Keep up with the good work ^^
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WaveofShadow has a sexy voice, that is all.
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On October 25 2012 03:20 AUGcodon wrote: WaveofShadow has a sexy voice, that is all.
And since people say we sound the same, I'll graciously accept your compliment ;P
Wave is unable to cast tonight, so it looks like our next cast won't be til tomorrow night D=
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On October 25 2012 01:55 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 01:36 Seuss wrote:On October 25 2012 00:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 24 2012 23:06 sylverfyre wrote:On October 24 2012 11:59 tissue wrote: If you want some eyeballs and exposure on youtube etc, here's an idea, you could go over the recent s2 championships, pick out some interesting highlights and talk about them from a higher-level perspective, perhaps slow-mo some teamfights or whatever, where you can go over each player's decisions, who the AD carry is shooting, to save or use cc, to hold or blow summoner spells, etc.
Just my two cents. Oh man, in depth analysis on the S2 tournament stuff would be SO COOL. Any in-depth analysis we could do would pale in comparison to what the guys who are writing up the post-Championship writeup are going to do. I've also watched people re-commentate pro matches before (both SC2 and LoL) and it always just seems inferior to me. If the demand is high enough though I guess..... As far as casting goes, until Soniv gets his program fixed, we're on hold.... All due props to our TL press team ( serious props) but there is a huge difference between a write-up and someone walking you through events visually. For example, take the following snippet from my game 1 analysis: + Show Spoiler +Where it all went wrong for TPA was the next teamfight. TPA expected Frost to attempt a flat out retreat after taking dragon, leading Toyz and Stanley to use Anivia's wall and Olaf's axe to try to cut off CloudTemplar and Shy's escape. Frost immediately turned to fight, making the placement of both abilities worthless. If Anivia's wall had been placed to block the rest of Frost it would have at least forced Flashes in order to enter the fight.
Every member of TPA was bunched up, not expecting Frost to simply turn around and fight. As a result when CloudTemplar nailed Toyz with his Bandage Toss all five members of TPA, and most importantly Bebe on Vayne, were caught in Amumu's ultimate. For a critical two seconds Bebe was unable to make any contribution to the fight, wasting a significant portion of Vayne's ultimate. At the same time the stun from Bandage Toss prevented Toyz from exerting any zone control, and when he attempted to use his ultimate Madlife hit him with Sona's, cancelling the Glacial Storm. Toyz was egged before he could do anything significant. While Bebe avoided most of the AoE, these issues allowed RapidStar's Karthus to sit untouched in the middle of TPA for almost the entire fight. By the time Toyz resurrected and TPA burst RapidStar down they were already dangerously low on health. With Woong's Ezreal at full health, Requiem incoming, and TPA's crowd control expended to kill RapidStar, survival was impossible. Read that all you want, but it will remain fairly abstract unless you go beyond the text. Reading my analysis tells you what happened, reading it with a video of the fight as a reference shows you what happened, but having someone guide you through the fight as a cast involves you in what happened. What I'm saying is doing a Day9 style, "Here are the important moments in a game, what happened, why it happened, and how you can use this to improve." is valuable. Even if all you do is take the analysis of our subforum's superbrains and present it in the concrete world of the game it occurred in you'd be doing a service to people who are visual learners. Ah I see what you mean, so more like Day[9] daily style pause-and-analyze. That's definitely doable, though it's really a different kind of thing and not really a cast. Again, if it's something that people want to see we can always add different kinds of content and start creating Youtube vids as well rather than just sending whatever we happen to cast to Youtube.
Maybe that sort of show plays more to my strengths than yours. But then people would expect a webcam or something and I'd actually have to be responsible and follow tournaments and teams closely and stuff.
Actually none of that would be all that hard, I just hate advertising.
Also, I totally failed to make you guys any cool graphics when I told Soniv I might. D:
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one of you guys kinda boringify the end of all of your statements, which is kind of the opposite of what most casters do (the opposite is annoying too, hyping everything up for no reason)
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All of the people confused about your voices makes me think you should periodically, or at least at the start and end of every cast, do some routine like, "This is Wave. *pause* And this is Soniv, bringing you the phat casts up in this riftzle."
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