On April 24 2015 09:58 Mensol wrote:
could someone fucking tell me when my jungler keep ganking bot, who is far head while im losing my lane?

im going to lose my mind

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This is exactly what im talking about. Maybe i should switch to jungle. I dont want to meet with retarded junglers anymore.

GrandInquisitor

New York City13113 Posts

April 24 2015 15:55 GMT

#12542

That's pretty reasonable, honestly. Ganking a losing lane can be extremely dangerous. For example if our Wukong gave up a kill to Darius, and I came top for a gank, that Darius is probably going to double-kill us. On the flip side, a winning lane might find it tricky to cash in their advantage for a kill without jungler assistance. Bot lane in particular is extra valuable because you can get two kills, a tower, and a dragon off a successful gank.

I don't know any specifics about your situation, but all else being equal there's nothing wrong with a jungler snowballing a winning lane instead of trying to recover a losing lane.

Mensol

14536 Posts

April 24 2015 16:03 GMT

#12543

what i meant by losing that my lane is pushed by enemy all the time, he killed me once and he still keep pushing the lane.

Me = Gnar
Opponent = Rengar
Jungler = Amumu

My retarded jungler keep ganking bot, who has like +30 cs advantage and completely ignoring my lane. We couldve killed that Rengar at least twice if he were to gank there. im seriously considering to change my role to jungle.

General_Winter

United States719 Posts

April 24 2015 16:16 GMT

#12544

If you tilt or flame don't change to jungle. Jungle is a hate magnet. Everyone blames jungle for everything.

krndandaman

Mozambique16569 Posts

April 24 2015 18:46 GMT

#12545

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Alaric

France45622 Posts

April 24 2015 21:33 GMT

#12546

Successfully convinced my duoQ on my smurf not to play friday evenings. It only took two games. Experience prevails! o7
It led from a 1-0 to a 1-2 in promos but we'll make that up at some point.

Mensol

14536 Posts

April 24 2015 23:53 GMT

#12547

I have a Karthus on my team who went 0-9 against LB.in first ten mins. We got rekt even though im like 100 cs ahead of opponents adc.

That all can is say.

Sonnington

United States1107 Posts

April 25 2015 01:49 GMT

#12548

Friggen Ahri in my last game dies at 3:30 to Katarina because she didn't use any of her pots. How is that OK? How am I supposed to see that and say, "Well, you died to a champ with a poor laning phase 1v1 because you didn't use your pots. That's ok. You belong in the top 10% of lol players. I still trust you, these things happen. Sometimes you just forget to use your potions in laning phase."

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

April 25 2015 03:52 GMT

#12549

On April 25 2015 01:16 General_Winter wrote:
If you tilt or flame don't change to jungle. Jungle is a hate magnet. Everyone blames jungle for everything.

While you might get more hate, playing with a bad jungler as a laner tilts me so much more than playing with a bad laner as a jungler.

AlreadyHere

Canada26 Posts

April 25 2015 05:04 GMT

#12550

The jungler just has the potential to have so much influence but it seems like there are very few jungle mains in Solo q, everyone wants adc or mid.

Having a jungler who doesn't know when or where to gank is far worse than having a laner who is behind their opponent imo.

Bulgaria4115 Posts

April 25 2015 12:10 GMT

#12551

On April 25 2015 14:04 AlreadyHere wrote:
The jungler just has the potential to have so much influence but it seems like there are very few jungle mains in Solo q, everyone wants adc or mid.

Having a jungler who doesn't know when or where to gank is far worse than having a laner who is behind their opponent imo.

For me the 2 roles in soloQ that have the biggest skill gaps among the same elo player base are support and jungle. These roles require a lot of knowledge outside of how to lane and micro-mechanics. There are players who know the role and others that are playing it the way they play every role and the skill gap & game impact between these groups are huge, enormous.

RagequitBM

Canada2270 Posts

April 25 2015 18:41 GMT

#12552

I don't know if it's the meta or I'm just getting worse, but I can't win as ADC, my main role anymore. I can be an item up, and 1/3rd damage higher than anyone else in the game, and still lose. Their top, and jungle just sit on me with thornmail, cinderhulk, and gromp. Not sure what more I can really do.

On the bright side, I'm getting pretty good at my offroles..

Edit: Maybe the skill gap between Silver I and Gold V is just that big? Looking at my lolking graph it looks like I got boosted haha
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General_Winter

United States719 Posts

April 25 2015 20:27 GMT

#12553

Are all darius players bad? I feel like every time someone picks him they feed and then blame the rest of the team.

AlreadyHere

Canada26 Posts

April 25 2015 22:36 GMT

#12554

On April 26 2015 05:27 General_Winter wrote:
Are all darius players bad? I feel like every time someone picks him they feed and then blame the rest of the team.

I think hes just a shitty champion, useless when he gets behind and way too easy to camp. Hes pretty strong at lower elos though because people will try to straight up fight him early on no matter what champ they are and get shit on.

Alot of the "win lane lose game" champs infuriate the hell out of me when my team picks them and we just slowly lose cause they can't do anything in teamfights. Leblanc, pantheon, yorick and darius are the worst ones just off the top of my head.

Mensol

14536 Posts

April 26 2015 00:42 GMT

#12555

second day of playing jungle:

now i understand why people dont want to play jungle. Your nerves have to be made by steel because it's not easy to babysit four ******* at the same time. It's also fucking hilarious that they are moaning at you when you get two creeps their lane.

This is me when top laner asking for a gank without having single ward.

nimbim

Germany983 Posts

April 26 2015 05:44 GMT

#12556

I should have expected an awful game when queuing up at 6am.

Ryze was a free kill for the longest time, but Lee would rather farm the jungle I guess - quite understandable after I've seen his "ganks". The one I liked best was coming through the lane, standing there, take 2cs and then back to farming the jungle.
Lucian flaming the whole team because he got caught all the time and needed to shift blame desperately.
Sion flaming Lucian because he was so annoying with his blaming. I can kind of understand but it did nothing to improve the overall mood of the game.
On top of that our Nautilus, who I think did nothing. At least I didn't ever see him do anything impactful like hitting a hook.

What's worse is that the enemy team consisted of some seemingly tired players too, but my team just couldn't do anything.

krndandaman

Mozambique16569 Posts

April 29 2015 04:28 GMT

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saddaromma

1129 Posts

April 29 2015 05:14 GMT

#12558

I am not raging or anything. But why people tend to stick around after won tf and killing inhibitor, just to get killed by respawing enemy. This happens a lot from bronze to plat.

I used to stay around in case if I should help them. But usually it backfired. I walk away now and ping them back. I know this is overconfidence, but doesn't mistake teach people? Even 10 y/o could figure out he cant survive as an adc vs 3 or more people with homeguards, no matter how fed he is (good vaynes being rare exception).

And I think 90% of throws in soloq are like this.

xAdra

Singapore1858 Posts

April 29 2015 09:42 GMT

#12559

Veteran Dota player here, started playing league 4 months ago and now playing both games simultaneously and having loads of fun.

Dota doesn't have a dedicated "jungle" role so I was surprised at the importance of a good jungler in this game. Their ganks like make or break the game and set the entire tempo of the game, a role which was fulfilled by the midlaner in dota.

The first time I realized this was yesterday when I had double killed bot lane twice as ADC, but my team's fiddlesticks was 0-4, having failed 2 ganks while the enemy's Sejuani was 3-0-1. You can guess how that went for the rest of the game

Lonyo

United Kingdom3884 Posts

April 29 2015 22:38 GMT

#12560

Always fun when someone wants to try and shot call and bitches about me not doing what they say when I'm going for objectives.

Team decides to be middle of mid, just our side of river, and go 4v5 against the enemy team to "defend" our inner mid turret, while I push top lane which is clear to inhib.
Since our loss would be inner, and only if the team plays like morons and engages away from turret, I decide to keep pushing.

Our team "shotcaller" bitches about me not coming mid to help the team, while they engage outside tower range and 2 or something die and we lose tower, and I get top lane inhib. A worthwhile trade if you ask me, and only bad because they engaged in the middle of midlane.

Then when I keep top lane pushed and we are shortly able to kill top inhib and push to end the game thereafter, do I get any word of thanks for setting up that situation? Of course not.
If you are going to pretend shotcall a pub game, at least have a clue about how to take objectives and defend objectives.

Same person then cheered as I got chased down lane (just after killing inhib tower) by Cass slowing me and killing me. I forgot boots because I assumed I had bought them a long long time before. At first I thought Cass was just bullshit OP until I realised.