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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-05 03:41:58
May 04 2015 21:12 GMT
#12581
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 05 2015 04:13 GMT
#12582
I like to think I wasn't that bad at lvl 20

Though to my everlasting shame I used to play Frozen Heart support Chogath
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 05 2015 04:55 GMT
#12583
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
May 05 2015 06:03 GMT
#12584
I remember why I stopped doing ranked tonight.

http://i.imgur.com/FrcX2Qg.jpg
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
May 05 2015 08:21 GMT
#12585
Why the fuck is Annie banned so fucking much in my games. I just want to play it mid and I swear it's legit banned in 50% of my fucking games.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
May 05 2015 08:45 GMT
#12586
On May 05 2015 15:03 Risen wrote:
I remember why I stopped doing ranked tonight.

http://i.imgur.com/FrcX2Qg.jpg


Get into promos, pick easy champ (which offers nothing for the team), win lane, blame team, lose promos - endless cycle.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-05 20:45:26
May 05 2015 20:45 GMT
#12587
Play a ranked game for the first time in a month or so. Team picks Diana, Vayne, Jayce, Blitz... talk about asking to get completely destroyed if you fall even a bit behind. Everyone except Diana is patently worthless, of course.
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-06 00:06:26
May 06 2015 00:06 GMT
#12588
Who do you prefer, the vel koz mid who takes ghost as a summoner
or
the premade bot with jinx who gets caught before minions spawn by wandering near the river and tries to escape by flashing into their tower giving katarina the kill?
Dating thread on TL LUL
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 06 2015 02:31 GMT
#12589
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-06 11:01:45
May 06 2015 11:00 GMT
#12590
My God, I've gotten back into ranked, and I'd forgotten how bad teams can be. I'm hitting 75% kill participation playing any role, all my other lanes are losing every single game...

I just had a game where we crushed bot (7/1 Lucian is going to carry right?), but other lanes lost so hard it was a 20 min ff, they talked about losing 5 min into the game. Can't blame them when Malph, Fizz and Nid jungle have one kill a piece, and 19 deaths together, while Riven and Orianna are 3 lvs above everyone else at the 12 minute mark (Malph hits 6 after me, wtf?).

And I'm learning the pains of trying to get through Plat again: ppl don't group, it becomes a snore fest. Get a lead? We wait it out 20 minutes until enemy Jinx is full build.

And to top it off, +15 LP per game, -21 per loss, so I can't rise in LP. Funnily enough I actually got through Plat 5 promos so easy...
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-07 16:27:07
May 07 2015 16:16 GMT
#12591
Oh cool, new feature got released! Let's try it out.

Except that my internet cut off for about 10-minutes midgame and now I'm greeted by
[image loading]


That's enough League for 2015.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
May 08 2015 02:13 GMT
#12592
I'd type "I don't agree fuck you"
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
May 08 2015 05:10 GMT
#12593
On May 05 2015 17:45 saddaromma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 15:03 Risen wrote:
I remember why I stopped doing ranked tonight.

http://i.imgur.com/FrcX2Qg.jpg


Get into promos, pick easy champ (which offers nothing for the team), win lane, blame team, lose promos - endless cycle.

Nothing for the team? Dude black cleaver spin shredding their whole team's armor is definitely something. Silencing their APC is definitely something. I'm top lane, what do you expect me to do "for my team" when things snowballed in the other lanes so quickly. And I was very clearly trying to help them out (as noted by my participation in over 50% of my team's kills).

I thought this was the QQ thread where you vented about shit teammates, not the "I'm an idiot and I'm going to say dumb shit" thread.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 08 2015 10:22 GMT
#12594
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4161 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-08 10:30:10
May 08 2015 10:28 GMT
#12595
On May 08 2015 19:22 krndandaman wrote:
my friends are really awful at this game and it takes them 4 losses in a row of playing shit like bronze 5 vayne, first time silver kennen, etc. and getting utterly shat on for them to realize that unless they tryhard its impossible to win when playing with higher elos.

my eyes are literally hurting from watching my bronze 5 friend tumble into the enemy every fight and stand still autoing a mf.
yeah ok

oh and apparently none of them like to support so they have me support
this is why my normal mmr is shit

I have similar issue with bronze friends, but I pick Rengar support since I main him anyway and I know that these normal games are even harder than ranked and try to carry with him. Usually the enemy team also have some silver/bronzes all I need is to allocate and feed of them. Works like in half of the games.

So the truth behind supporting in such games is: you don't actually support, you just leave your adc to farm for the 1st 10 minutes of the game or even less :-)
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-08 11:01:47
May 08 2015 10:57 GMT
#12596
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General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-08 19:02:05
May 08 2015 19:01 GMT
#12597
Very weird game last night. I play a normal and someone calls top, jungle and bot. I ask what’s open and someone tells me mid and support. I call support and lock in Nami. Then right before time is done someone locks in Blitzcrank and calls sup. Then when the game starts the adc says they are a duo queue always lane together and I need to play mid.

I try to convince Blitz to play mid since as weak a mid choice as Blitz is, he is much better than Nami. But they insist on their duo in bottom. I ask why the didn’t mention this in champ select and they say they weren’t looking at chat. So I buy the doran’s ring (I have support masteries by the way since they told me too late) and head out to lane to face Yasuo.

So then I solo kill Yasuo at level 3. < - - Nami OP

After that I roam to bot lane and join up with Blitz and Miss Fortune and we get another kill via the 3v2. Then I roam top along with jungle Vi and we get another kill 3v1 and now all lanes are ahead.
Then Vi takes mid and blitz and I both play as roaming supports arriving and giving whatever lane we wander into to a big advantage.

Team racks up huge number of kills, gets fed with items and starts winning team fights left and right. Before too long we are up 50-30. Then their Shaco backdoors our base and we lose. GG
Overall the game was surprisingly fun given what a clusterfork it was. But so much to QQ about.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
May 08 2015 22:39 GMT
#12598
I think I'm cursed. Seriously I'm gonna go goddamn crazy over LoL.

OK so I was D1 in season 3. I didn't play ranked in season 4, but I came back for S5. Crushed my placements, worked up through plat, and got into D5 with a record of roughly 75-48. I had a 8:1 KDA on janna with a 75% winrate, and almost as good stats on my jungle mains. Solo Q was good.

And then BAM. My last 30 or so ranked games over the past month have seriously gone something like 5 – 25. I'm in disbelief. I went from playing with D2-3s to mid plats, and have been demoted back to plat1. I don't believe in ELO hell, but fucking christ the number of games which have felt out of my control is making me crazy.

It's unreal. Every game. I've had more disconnects and 4v5s than I figure should be possible. And always on my team. ALWAYS. And I'm just in disbelief. Every time I sit down to ranked I think to myself “This shit can't possibly continue, can it?” LOL it can.

I play a few games on Wednesday. Get a 4v5. Then get a troll support graves pick. Then another 4v5, and then a game where our fizz insists his W skill is broken. He manages 30 cs in 20 minutes. THIRTY.

So then this afternoon I sit down and figure “oh this shit can't possibly continue, can it?” First game our top quits 10 minutes in. Second game we win. Third game our mid disconnects. We were so far ahead we won 2 teamfights 4v5, but eventually having no mage costs us the game.

I'm just in actual serious disbelief. I'm fucking cursed. I can't comprehend how often this shit happens. I think I've seriously had about 15 4v5 games in the last 25 or so games. I DUO QUEUE with someone, and HE disconnects! WHAT THE FUCK T_T

My KDA for my past 20 games according to op.gg is 4:1, and my record is 5-20. I can't even. I went from like 75-50 to 78-74. LoL gods pls why
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4161 Posts
May 09 2015 09:42 GMT
#12599
On May 09 2015 07:39 Haemonculus wrote:
I think I'm cursed. Seriously I'm gonna go goddamn crazy over LoL.

OK so I was D1 in season 3. I didn't play ranked in season 4, but I came back for S5. Crushed my placements, worked up through plat, and got into D5 with a record of roughly 75-48. I had a 8:1 KDA on janna with a 75% winrate, and almost as good stats on my jungle mains. Solo Q was good.

And then BAM. My last 30 or so ranked games over the past month have seriously gone something like 5 – 25. I'm in disbelief. I went from playing with D2-3s to mid plats, and have been demoted back to plat1. I don't believe in ELO hell, but fucking christ the number of games which have felt out of my control is making me crazy.

It's unreal. Every game. I've had more disconnects and 4v5s than I figure should be possible. And always on my team. ALWAYS. And I'm just in disbelief. Every time I sit down to ranked I think to myself “This shit can't possibly continue, can it?” LOL it can.

I play a few games on Wednesday. Get a 4v5. Then get a troll support graves pick. Then another 4v5, and then a game where our fizz insists his W skill is broken. He manages 30 cs in 20 minutes. THIRTY.

So then this afternoon I sit down and figure “oh this shit can't possibly continue, can it?” First game our top quits 10 minutes in. Second game we win. Third game our mid disconnects. We were so far ahead we won 2 teamfights 4v5, but eventually having no mage costs us the game.

I'm just in actual serious disbelief. I'm fucking cursed. I can't comprehend how often this shit happens. I think I've seriously had about 15 4v5 games in the last 25 or so games. I DUO QUEUE with someone, and HE disconnects! WHAT THE FUCK T_T

My KDA for my past 20 games according to op.gg is 4:1, and my record is 5-20. I can't even. I went from like 75-50 to 78-74. LoL gods pls why


I had pretty similar experience but it was between plat 5 and gold 1 and few of my friends also had it again between 2 tiers. So I think this is not exactly random. Riot has something like black lists (this is how I call them) full with people that are for example reported for stuff or tilt (again my assumption how the black lists are created) and in the case of some events it puts you there. My observation is that you may go (notice that I say "may") into such list:
1) when you get reports
2) when in promos
3) when you lose promos
4) when you have long winning streaks
5) when you duo with a same person for a while and you have good results
Outside of the 1st option, it looks like Riot is trying to validate if you are really the right rank so you have to prove yourself with the black list guys in your team. And you stay in that list until you start winning again and then your true elo is determined or something like that.
The best way to get out of it is to duo with a friend who is better than that elo, perhaps with smurf account and together you make 10-12 wins out of 15 games and you are fresh to go again
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
May 09 2015 10:28 GMT
#12600
On May 09 2015 18:42 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 07:39 Haemonculus wrote:
I think I'm cursed. Seriously I'm gonna go goddamn crazy over LoL.

OK so I was D1 in season 3. I didn't play ranked in season 4, but I came back for S5. Crushed my placements, worked up through plat, and got into D5 with a record of roughly 75-48. I had a 8:1 KDA on janna with a 75% winrate, and almost as good stats on my jungle mains. Solo Q was good.

And then BAM. My last 30 or so ranked games over the past month have seriously gone something like 5 – 25. I'm in disbelief. I went from playing with D2-3s to mid plats, and have been demoted back to plat1. I don't believe in ELO hell, but fucking christ the number of games which have felt out of my control is making me crazy.

It's unreal. Every game. I've had more disconnects and 4v5s than I figure should be possible. And always on my team. ALWAYS. And I'm just in disbelief. Every time I sit down to ranked I think to myself “This shit can't possibly continue, can it?” LOL it can.

I play a few games on Wednesday. Get a 4v5. Then get a troll support graves pick. Then another 4v5, and then a game where our fizz insists his W skill is broken. He manages 30 cs in 20 minutes. THIRTY.

So then this afternoon I sit down and figure “oh this shit can't possibly continue, can it?” First game our top quits 10 minutes in. Second game we win. Third game our mid disconnects. We were so far ahead we won 2 teamfights 4v5, but eventually having no mage costs us the game.

I'm just in actual serious disbelief. I'm fucking cursed. I can't comprehend how often this shit happens. I think I've seriously had about 15 4v5 games in the last 25 or so games. I DUO QUEUE with someone, and HE disconnects! WHAT THE FUCK T_T

My KDA for my past 20 games according to op.gg is 4:1, and my record is 5-20. I can't even. I went from like 75-50 to 78-74. LoL gods pls why


I had pretty similar experience but it was between plat 5 and gold 1 and few of my friends also had it again between 2 tiers. So I think this is not exactly random. Riot has something like black lists (this is how I call them) full with people that are for example reported for stuff or tilt (again my assumption how the black lists are created) and in the case of some events it puts you there. My observation is that you may go (notice that I say "may") into such list:
1) when you get reports
2) when in promos
3) when you lose promos
4) when you have long winning streaks
5) when you duo with a same person for a while and you have good results
Outside of the 1st option, it looks like Riot is trying to validate if you are really the right rank so you have to prove yourself with the black list guys in your team. And you stay in that list until you start winning again and then your true elo is determined or something like that.
The best way to get out of it is to duo with a friend who is better than that elo, perhaps with smurf account and together you make 10-12 wins out of 15 games and you are fresh to go again



Interesting. I wasn't going to say anything until I saw your post. I also had a horrendous streak of 4v5s, but I thought it was just having rotten luck like Haemy.
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