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TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
July 09 2013 11:13 GMT
#9041
I complained about Darius using AP runes, got called awful by our 1/5 Ahri (I was kinda feeding) then got two back to back quadra kills as Zed and we still lost. And then I get reported by my whole team for negative attitude. I wasn't even bitching that much, they call me shit and I point out their faults and I get reported and a warning? I know it doesn't come to anything being warned that I've been reported a lot but it still pisses me off when I get reported for retaliating with the truth.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
July 09 2013 11:32 GMT
#9042
I imagine the chat logs would tell a somewhat less unfair story =)
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
July 09 2013 11:44 GMT
#9043
Fuck kayle.

Seriously. Fuck kayle. No skillshots, low mana costs, extremely forgiving.

She is right up there with season 2 yorick as ridiculously stupid to play against.
TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 13:08:41
July 09 2013 13:07 GMT
#9044
On July 09 2013 20:32 Osmoses wrote:
I imagine the chat logs would tell a somewhat less unfair story =)

Doubt it, I try never to flame or rage, just point out mistakes if I'm pissed off but I never like to show it. I had a run of really bad games where I get afk's leavers or I feed and I get annoyed but do my best to not take it out on anyone and only offer constructive criticism.So many immature fucktards who leave because they fed first blood, or I took cs from their lane while they were back, or they didn't like the way someone criticized them.Then you get the ones who join the lobby, say "fuck you all", instalock teemo and then bitch the whole game about how much their team sucks. Watch my stream games if you want, I rarely have a negative attitude. www.twitch.tv/tsbspartacus
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 15:16:31
July 09 2013 14:30 GMT
#9045
Is it possible that the level of play during afternoons is way way worse than during nights ? Silver 2 on EUW. I usually play on nights and thought I was finally out of the zone where the really strange things happen and now playing at afternoon OMG WTF.
Last game Nida supp rushing sheen going 2-19, this game I had a Vayne with 96 cs after 35 mins. These kinda stuff never happened to me anymore :-<<<<<<
I just lost 5 straight and there wasnt much I could do really....
Also somehow enemy team on average one division higher than mine. Or is Riot just putting me with bad players, cause I had a really nice streak going with Eve ?

/e time to switch to Akali I guess.
/ee ok was Panth and not Akali 15-5 easy win. Ye you have to win your lane very hard to carry in elohell. Ori or Kayle who I like to play just cant win the lane so hard in most/all matchups.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
July 09 2013 14:39 GMT
#9046
On July 09 2013 17:30 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 14:06 Swords wrote:
Preface: I am terrible at this game. I'm in bronze, and steadily trying to work my way out.

That being said, I just wish I could learn to carry harder/influence the game flow better. It's so frustrating to dominate a lane, come out 50+ cs ahead/3-4 kills/0 deaths, and then lose, despite playing out of my mind in teamfights as an adc.

I know if I want to improve I need to learn to use these advantages better, but man, I just want to be carried for once in these games - or at least have a team capable of using my advantage to their advantage without me having to spell it out for them.

Friend, ADC is not the role for this on Bronze level. Trust me, I have experience, personally I am silver, so nothing special, but I played on a friend's bronze account for the last several days and It went from bronze 5 to 1. What I notice is that you gotta be top or mid to carry the game. When I carried with ADC I was like 9-0 in lane or something bullshity like that. ADC is too dependent on the team to carry with only 3-4 kills, while Mid/Top there you can carry with 3-4 kills extra. Jungle can also carry you, but again you gotta play not just strong, you gotta play amazing, all ganks have to be successful, you gotta steal buffs, you gotta kill enemy jungle, its more or less like the adc role: it can carry but you need to be "the man of steel" ) a very good game just doesnt cut it in bronze on these roles, while at Top/Mid most of the times its enough .

Another hint for going out of bronze: You gotta make kills, it doesnt help you a lot if you know about objectives, about farm, about right items, about counters, about right team decisions, as Mike Tyson once said: "Hit the head and the body will fall by itself", in bronze is the same: keep killing them and the nexus will fall by itself :-))

p.s Saw that I forgot to mention the support:-)) if you feel like you can win lanes, support is out of the question, whenever you can avoid it (and this is an advice from a person who mains support in his main account) do it, dont take support, as I said you gotta make kills, do you know with what I supported in my friend's bronze? and it worked like Christmas miracle, I did it with my main mid- Pantheon, I leave the farm for the adc (who misse 60% of the creeps anyway), I ward, I ping him but I also go for the kills, as I said above you gotta kill them nothing more nothing less


Yeah, I feel that. Last night was particularly rough, and I needed to vent a bit. The game before that adc game I went 5-0 in lane as Nasus against an Elise. Unfortunately bot lane created one of those 9-0 adcs (a Vayne to make it worse) that you were talking about, and it didn't really matter what I did because my team would melt too fast. There was still a lot I could do better, but it's pretty clear if you want to win you have to do what you're talking about and play lanes/champs that can carry/snowball really hard.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 09 2013 16:19 GMT
#9047
Never play on weekends. Even people in Diamond/Plat are noticeably worse on weekends.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
July 09 2013 16:22 GMT
#9048
On July 10 2013 01:19 ticklishmusic wrote:
Never play on weekends. Even people in Diamond/Plat are noticeably worse on weekends.

Yeah, it's like they are all drunk or something. I got from Gold 4 to 2 this week, but today is a nightmare
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 09 2013 17:58 GMT
#9049
On July 10 2013 01:22 Fildun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 01:19 ticklishmusic wrote:
Never play on weekends. Even people in Diamond/Plat are noticeably worse on weekends.

Yeah, it's like they are all drunk or something. I got from Gold 4 to 2 this week, but today is a nightmare


To be fair I have played while slightly inebriated, but I'm talking like people who have AP runes on Riven or something.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
July 09 2013 18:07 GMT
#9050
On July 09 2013 17:30 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 14:06 Swords wrote:
Preface: I am terrible at this game. I'm in bronze, and steadily trying to work my way out.

That being said, I just wish I could learn to carry harder/influence the game flow better. It's so frustrating to dominate a lane, come out 50+ cs ahead/3-4 kills/0 deaths, and then lose, despite playing out of my mind in teamfights as an adc.

I know if I want to improve I need to learn to use these advantages better, but man, I just want to be carried for once in these games - or at least have a team capable of using my advantage to their advantage without me having to spell it out for them.

Friend, ADC is not the role for this on Bronze level. Trust me, I have experience, personally I am silver, so nothing special, but I played on a friend's bronze account for the last several days and It went from bronze 5 to 1. What I notice is that you gotta be top or mid to carry the game. When I carried with ADC I was like 9-0 in lane or something bullshity like that. ADC is too dependent on the team to carry with only 3-4 kills, while Mid/Top there you can carry with 3-4 kills extra. Jungle can also carry you, but again you gotta play not just strong, you gotta play amazing, all ganks have to be successful, you gotta steal buffs, you gotta kill enemy jungle, its more or less like the adc role: it can carry but you need to be "the man of steel" ) a very good game just doesnt cut it in bronze on these roles, while at Top/Mid most of the times its enough .

Another hint for going out of bronze: You gotta make kills, it doesnt help you a lot if you know about objectives, about farm, about right items, about counters, about right team decisions, as Mike Tyson once said: "Hit the head and the body will fall by itself", in bronze is the same: keep killing them and the nexus will fall by itself :-))

p.s Saw that I forgot to mention the support:-)) if you feel like you can win lanes, support is out of the question, whenever you can avoid it (and this is an advice from a person who mains support in his main account) do it, dont take support, as I said you gotta make kills, do you know with what I supported in my friend's bronze? and it worked like Christmas miracle, I did it with my main mid- Pantheon, I leave the farm for the adc (who misse 60% of the creeps anyway), I ward, I ping him but I also go for the kills, as I said above you gotta kill them nothing more nothing less


I agree with you on some points, but not entirely. Many of the guides I have seen say that the best way to affect the game is to embrace the plight of the adc, i.e. be a burst assassin and try to catch the adc. This mostly puts you in the mid and jungle, but this is more about mid/later game role rather than early game laning.

Kills (and CS) are like the macro of LoL. If you get more kills, you usually win, but we've all been in games where we were even or even ahead in kills and everyone just derps out and doesn't go after objectives and subsequently lose.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 21:37:27
July 09 2013 21:36 GMT
#9051
So after a fairly long break from the game and a few normal games to get back in I just did my first 2 placement matches. Got two 4v5. Some things never change I guess :<
Romanes eunt domus
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 09 2013 21:59 GMT
#9052
Zac does good initiations but Vayne spends her life not doing anything, running from everything and everyone. Typical teamfight:
- Zac gets a E right on top of Ryze and Tristana then ults
- They try to run away, Nautilus immediatly blows his ult and everything on me so I can't E people easily (as Panth) while Ryze tries to W me to prevent me from walking to them
- Blitz hits Fiora to defend Vayne from her
- Yorick ults Vayne (after she specifically asked for it the teamfight next to the one where my ghost zoned 2 people and gave us a 5 for 3, 2 if Blitz didn't feel obligated to enter Fiora's range to ult)
- Vayne runs far away even when Fiora stops trying to get her, then runs back in once Yorick and I are dead
- Vayne suicides then blames us for not defending her (Blitz peels the only one attacking her), pretending that they focused her (because Tristana running, Ryze+Naut and sometimes even Tresh on my ass alone is everyone trying to get Vayne).

When we try a nashor because they're split with Fiora bot, Vayne farms top for 15+ seconds, the enemy team reach us with Nash alive because of that, we see Vayne starting to move so we fight, turns out he got scared midway, ran away, then decided to go back in, and was still on boots1 25+ minutes in so he just Tumbled in to finish off Nautilus then plain die.

Hey, self-entitled whiny kid? Fuck you. If at least you kept your mouth shut, but you had to bitch about it after you ruined a game where everyone else was actually collaborating and not trying to shift the blame.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 10 2013 06:06 GMT
#9053
It's such a great game when you watch your mid laner go 0/7, blame you the jungler, and you're 3/0 top laner. Berate you all game then have the balls to report you for verbal abuse. I love this community.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 08:51:45
July 10 2013 08:44 GMT
#9054
Good thing to end the patch night on....

Tilted because I lost, and lost because I'm tilted. Stupid first blood into snowball etc.

And then fucking games where my whole fucking team is feeding.

Probably the last 2 were my fault. Rest of them I don't even understand how my team could fail so fucking hard.

Actually the last irelia game wasn't my fault. Somehow my team manages to feed an 0/1 kayle who's down 40 CS to unbelievable levels. That along with Yi mid sealed our fate for every teamfight because yi does jack shit without resets.

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Porouscloud - NA LoL
Whitejack
Profile Joined July 2013
27 Posts
July 11 2013 03:18 GMT
#9055
On July 10 2013 15:06 Shotcoder wrote:
It's such a great game when you watch your mid laner go 0/7, blame you the jungler, and you're 3/0 top laner. Berate you all game then have the balls to report you for verbal abuse. I love this community.

this is my experience every single game i play. all four people on my team have questionable human genetics, and without fail every single game i'm head desking. i haven't won a game in like 3 days because these people dont' even grasp very basic concepts of ... existing. like, look with your eyes at stuff and react to it.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 04:02:27
July 11 2013 03:35 GMT
#9056
They reworked Shyvanna huh? Lets ult chogath into our midlaner multiple times and blame the karthus for not being able to dodge the cho feast. Feasible argument. Only in Solo queue.

Edit: I must have broken back into ELOhell, we're at the point where there are 4 smites on our team...

Edit2: I have gone from Promo in Gold 2 to 17 in gold 5. When do I get real players again? When summer break is over?
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11875 Posts
July 11 2013 03:46 GMT
#9057
Fun game. Noone talks. I FP lulu support and go doing shit on the internet, if someone types i hear them. Team i come back to: Heimer mid, Fiddle top, Kayle with me bot. 0/5 in the first 4 minutes. Still have to waste 16 more minutes in that game.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 11 2013 05:52 GMT
#9058
That feeling you get when you throw a Sej ult and it BARELY misses three different people (like they were pretty close together and it went in between three of them) for a clean miss. Lol I just laughed out loud at my fail :D
Never Knows Best.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11875 Posts
July 11 2013 09:48 GMT
#9059
Why do people who disconnect always claim that it is not their fault? If it is not yours, whose fault is it? I don't disconnect. You do. Thus there must be something wrong with what you do. If you got a shitty PC or shitty internet, don't play LoL. There are lots of cool singleplayer or 1v1 games out there where you don't ruin shit for your team.
OmegaKnetus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany431 Posts
July 11 2013 10:08 GMT
#9060
On July 11 2013 18:48 Simberto wrote:
Why do people who disconnect always claim that it is not their fault? If it is not yours, whose fault is it? I don't disconnect. You do. Thus there must be something wrong with what you do. If you got a shitty PC or shitty internet, don't play LoL. There are lots of cool singleplayer or 1v1 games out there where you don't ruin shit for your team.



Except that the server regularly throws people out on the loadscreen or in the middle of a game. There's maybe 1 in 10 games where noone is disconnected at the start.
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