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On March 24 2022 22:08 darklycid wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2022 22:07 Vindicare605 wrote: The Carriers are so fucking useless and such a massive waste of supply. I don't understand why Zest keeps making them. Critical mass carrier disruptor looks pretty good vs terran when i see it tbf.
Except Zest isn't making a single Disruptor. This is Carrier/Collosus like what Classic tried to do vs Dream and got crushed doing.
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On March 24 2022 22:09 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2022 22:08 darklycid wrote:On March 24 2022 22:07 Vindicare605 wrote: The Carriers are so fucking useless and such a massive waste of supply. I don't understand why Zest keeps making them. Critical mass carrier disruptor looks pretty good vs terran when i see it tbf. Except Zest isn't making a single Disruptor. This is Carrier/Collosus like what Classic tried to do vs Dream and got crushed doing. Starting out on carrier colossus is normal from what I've seen you just need to get disruptors after a while.
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zest is/was definitely drinking/too late/jet lagged
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People are going to use this result as a "Protoss weak buff plz" bullshit argument, when really it was just Zest not sure how to finish off a game that he had won and he threw it because he thought Carrier/Collosus was a good idea.
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I really hate to see it. But Zest is just not it anymore. Ryung didn't even play that particularly well. Zest had him in that series and just donated it because the new "meta" I guess? Just sucks in Korea. I don't know what the fuck this whole "make Carriers vs Terran" bullshit is in Korea, but it CLEARLY isn't working.
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On March 24 2022 22:10 Vindicare605 wrote: People are going to use this result as a "Protoss weak buff plz" bullshit argument, when really it was just Zest not sure how to finish off a game that he had won and he threw it because he thought Carrier/Collosus was a good idea. carrier collosus disruptor is good. zest just played really half assed there
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That was a very entertaining final game! Ryung is good man.
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On March 24 2022 22:12 Andi_Goldberger wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2022 22:10 Vindicare605 wrote: People are going to use this result as a "Protoss weak buff plz" bullshit argument, when really it was just Zest not sure how to finish off a game that he had won and he threw it because he thought Carrier/Collosus was a good idea. carrier collosus disruptor is good. zest just played really half assed there
You can't even claim that he was making Carrier/Collosus/Disruptor when Zest never made a single Disruptor.
It was just Zest playing bad. Plain and simple. Nothing he ended up doing in the games that were close ended up making any sense.
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I can't believe that Ryung managed to win this game after falling behind so far economically. And on marine ghost with just a few marauders sprinkled in. Really goes to show how much a big cloud of medivacs can turn the tide in a long game. Im really impressed with how he manged to create good engagements with just a few buildings in good positions on the map. Truly a skillful showing from the terran
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That was beyond terrible...
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On March 24 2022 22:13 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2022 22:12 Andi_Goldberger wrote:On March 24 2022 22:10 Vindicare605 wrote: People are going to use this result as a "Protoss weak buff plz" bullshit argument, when really it was just Zest not sure how to finish off a game that he had won and he threw it because he thought Carrier/Collosus was a good idea. carrier collosus disruptor is good. zest just played really half assed there You can't even claim that he was making Carrier/Collosus/Disruptor when Zest never made a single Disruptor. It was just Zest playing bad. Plain and simple. Nothing he ended up doing in the games that were close ended up making any sense. Idk ppl using this as an example for toss weak is obv bullshit i think rn there hasn"t been enough time to really see the development of the changes, except that queens off creep don"t work (thanks DRG )
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a bunch of dts split in each base + main fight when he was on five bases and ryung was dead in the water with no orbitals, even if he trades bad he wins zest brain was just not here I guess tonight
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Oh well whatever. 4/4 Liquibets so far. I saw this coming a mile away, because Zest just doesn't look like he cares anymore. Next group will be better I think because Zoun and Nightmare actually look like they are still hungry.
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WOW. GG Ryung!
Terrible by Zest, but props to Ryung for holding out.
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game is pretty much dead for toss on pro level. but i guess we should nerf them again because reasons xd
Carriers are meta on kr because marauders-libs kills everything on ground after mid game, and ruptors are units that depends enterely on opponent micro, so if your opponent knows how to split, like every gsl level terran should know, they are pretty much useless.
i guess now Zest is pretty much retired, what a loss man.
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On March 24 2022 22:13 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2022 22:12 Andi_Goldberger wrote:On March 24 2022 22:10 Vindicare605 wrote: People are going to use this result as a "Protoss weak buff plz" bullshit argument, when really it was just Zest not sure how to finish off a game that he had won and he threw it because he thought Carrier/Collosus was a good idea. carrier collosus disruptor is good. zest just played really half assed there You can't even claim that he was making Carrier/Collosus/Disruptor when Zest never made a single Disruptor. It was just Zest playing bad. Plain and simple. Nothing he ended up doing in the games that were close ended up making any sense. I am just saying that thats why you can make carriers, they arent terrible and unmakeable in the MU. he just didnt make the actual army comp for some reason. he just half assed it like I said.
Really sad to see this kind of play in GSL. Makes me feel so depressed about the korean scene
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My liquibets are already very bad with bets on Dream and Zest, but Ryung's form in Katowice was just not a fluke, impressive stuff for sure
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