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On February 27 2022 00:38 pandorasheep wrote:
Woke up late af! Anyone have a tl;dr on how Heromarine managed to beat Zoun?
Game one Zoun was almost dead but turn it around in the long run.
Game 2 (or 3?) was a failed cannon-void rush.
Game 3 (or 2) was on that map with the two main at the bottom, Zoun tried to go for some kind of 2 base timmjg with a gold and quick blink, didn't work and he got run over.
Game 4 was a tank push into gg
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Ready to watch ryung smack the shit out of rogue
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On February 27 2022 00:41 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2022 00:38 pandorasheep wrote:
Woke up late af! Anyone have a tl;dr on how Heromarine managed to beat Zoun? Game one Zoun was almost dead but turn it around in the long run. Game 2 (or 3?) was a failed cannon-void rush. Game 3 (or 2) was on that map with the two main at the bottom, Zoun tryed to go for some kind of 2 base timmjg with a gold and quick blink, didn't work and he got run over. Game 4 was a tank push into gg
Thanks! Do you think Zoun could have won?
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On February 27 2022 00:37 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2022 00:32 JJH777 wrote:
Maru vs Serral in WESG with $200k on the line has somehow been deleted from history.
Lol even Maru has forgotten about it apparently. Maru trying to not remind Serral how hard be trolled him in that series lol.
He certainly butchered him, although I dunno if Serral had quite ascended to his final form.
I’m hoping, and almost certainly won’t get a TvZ for the ages between these two to offset the death of Protoss.
Last time I had that hope it was Maru playing Rogue in that Code S final and we all know how that one went haha
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On February 27 2022 00:32 JJH777 wrote:
Maru vs Serral in WESG with $200k on the line has somehow been deleted from history.
Lol even Maru has forgotten about it apparently.
It’s because Serral had not reached his peak 2018 form yet /s 
With this mappool and jet lag I don’t think Maru can win but maybe he can take one map
The terran hope for no 4 zergs in ro4 is HeroMarine since Solar is by far the easiest zerg and is vulnerable to random builds in the early game. Big Gabe smart builds could work vs him
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I can already smell the Nydus Worms
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On February 27 2022 00:44 catplanetcatplanet wrote:
Ready to watch ryung smack the shit out of rogue
That's one of the things that might actually get me hyped up about this tournament again.
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Canada8989 Posts
Ryung vs Rogue - Sniper Boogaloo
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On February 27 2022 00:45 Fanatic-Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2022 00:44 catplanetcatplanet wrote:
Ready to watch ryung smack the shit out of rogue That's one of the things that might actually get me hyped up about this tournament again.
It would be amazing, but aside from being a top player Rogue also has the hype killing superpower
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On February 27 2022 00:45 Charoisaur wrote:
I can already smell the Nydus Worms
That's great of you to think Ryung's even going to last that long
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maybe it makes me a bad person but I absolutely want to see Rogue destroy someone today in the absolute most disgusting way possible
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On February 27 2022 00:45 Charoisaur wrote:
I can already smell the Nydus Worms
I’m impressed you’re still conscious to post here, I’m going to go out on a limb and imagine that Nydus worms must emit a truly foul stench
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On February 27 2022 00:46 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2022 00:45 Fanatic-Templar wrote:On February 27 2022 00:44 catplanetcatplanet wrote:
Ready to watch ryung smack the shit out of rogue That's one of the things that might actually get me hyped up about this tournament again. It would be amazing, but aside from being a top player Rogue also has the hype killing superpower
Oh, it's never going to happen. The reason I'm actually still here is to see what happens with Heromarine/Solar's part of the bracket. If a Zerg has to win, I'd like to at least see it be Solar.
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On February 27 2022 00:47 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2022 00:45 Charoisaur wrote:
I can already smell the Nydus Worms I’m impressed you’re still conscious to post here, I’m going to go out on a limb and imagine that Nydus worms must emit a truly foul stench
Hahaha
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Watching this makes me realize how much I missed live events. I want to go watch some live SC2 with some nerds in 2022.
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If Rogue manages to pass this stage but lose in the quarterfinal, does he quickly become the first one to crack 1 million total earnings, just as Feardragon said before?
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On February 27 2022 00:52 swarminfestor wrote:
If Rogue manages to pass this stage but lose in the quarterfinal, does he quickly become the first one to crack 1 million total earnings, just as Feardragon said before?
I think he already did it with the 10k$ he earned on this match.
Maru just did it 10 minutes ago too, if Liquipedia is to be beleive
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On February 27 2022 00:52 swarminfestor wrote:
If Rogue manages to pass this stage but lose in the quarterfinal, does he quickly become the first one to crack 1 million total earnings, just as Feardragon said before?
They pay out at the end of the tournament I'm guessing. According to liquipedia Maru will pass it even if he loses the next match. And Rogue will pass it if he just beats Ryung
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On February 26 2022 22:13 parksonsc wrote:
The Korean protoss really dont know much about HM. If they did, they would have just defended and tried to go late game everytime, since HM's TvP late game is pretty much tier-b level.
It's not just Heromarine's late game that is weak against Protoss, pretty much all the pro Terrans are weak against late game Protoss, if the Protoss player has a decent late game like Trap or Stats. We just saw that Maru can't really beat late game Protoss either when he lost to Zoun in the late game yesterday. IMO, it's just Zest that doesn't have a great PvsT late game because Zest has always relied on timing attacks. Cure won GSL Season 3 because he knew Zest wasn't good at PvsT late game, so Cure just defended Zest's all-ins. In the same GSL Season 3, Cure knew that Trap was unbeatable in PvsT late game so Cure did timing attacks on Trap to stop him from getting there.
If you look at Protoss as a whole, Protoss have been winning a lot of Premier level tournaments from 2020 to 2022. Zest just won the last GSL Super Tournament. And Trap won 6 Premier level tournaments in the last 1.5 years, including TSL 7, Next S1, 2021 GSL Super Tournament 1, DH Last Chance 2021, 2021 GSL Super Tournament 2, 2020 GSL Super Tournament 2: liquipedia.net. Also, from 2020 to 2022, Zest got 2nd place multiple times in Premier level tournaments, so he was in the position to win it.
Finally, the top 50 EU GM was 68% Protoss when I checked about 2 months ago (I counted 34 Protoss in the top 50 EU GM). I think the % of Protoss in the top 50 EU GM has dropped since then, but it's still very high. EU ESL Cup week in and week out is dominated by Protoss entries. That would be very bad for the future pro scene if the makeup of the top 50 EU GM slanted even more Protoss.
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On February 27 2022 00:57 xelnaga_empire wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2022 22:13 parksonsc wrote:
The Korean protoss really dont know much about HM. If they did, they would have just defended and tried to go late game everytime, since HM's TvP late game is pretty much tier-b level. It's not just Heromarine's late game that is weak against Protoss, pretty much all the pro Terrans are weak against late game Protoss, if the Protoss player has a decent late game like Trap or Stats. We just saw that Maru can't really beat late game Protoss either when he lost to Zoun in the late game yesterday. IMO, it's just Zest that doesn't have a great PvsT late game because Zest has always relied on timing attacks. Cure won GSL Season 3 because he knew Zest wasn't good at PvsT late game, so Cure just defended Zest's all-ins. In the same GSL Season 3, Cure knew that Trap was unbeatable in PvsT late game so Cure did timing attacks on Trap to stop him from getting there. If you look at Protoss as a whole, Protoss have been winning a lot of Premier level tournaments from 2020 to 2022. Zest just won the last GSL Super Tournament. And Trap won 6 Premier level tournaments in the last 1.5 years, including TSL 7, Next S1, 2021 GSL Super Tournament 1, DH Last Chance 2021, 2021 GSL Super Tournament 2, 2020 GSL Super Tournament 2:  Premier Tournaments. Also, from 2020 to 2022, Zest got 2nd place multiple times in Premier level tournaments, so he was in the position to win it. Finally, the top 50 EU GM was 68% Protoss when I checked about 2 months ago (I counted 34 Protoss in the top 50 EU GM). I think the % of Protoss in the top 50 EU GM has dropped since then, but it's still very high. EU ESL Cup week in and week out is dominated by Protoss entries. That would be very bad for the future pro scene if the makeup of the top 50 EU GM slanted even more Protoss.
I was with you until you brought up GM ladder and ESL cups which don't matter at all
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