On January 24 2022 19:38 darklycid wrote: but tournaments dont support protoss dominating terran in the first 2/3 of 2021 it was pretty mixed.
Then you are either very biased or blind. The Korean Terrans said multiple times they wanted to avoid Protoss in 2021.
Like were you not listening or watching interviews?
The Korean Terrans weren't saying they wanted to avoid Zerg. They wanted to avoid Protoss, over and over again.
What massive goalpost moving is this, like do you even read what you write? If the data doesnt support your claim i guess we take what ppl are saying now. I got a massive job opportunity for you at the local circus my man
The data did support this. Like I said, the top 3 Korean Protoss would typically win out against the top 3 Korean Terran in the first 2/3 of 2021. It happened over and over again, until GSL Season 3 with Cure's run. I (deacon) made the bolding and underscoring
Since January 01 2021 to August 31 2021 Maru is 11:10 vs Trap(3:2), 2:1 vs Parting(1:0, 9:2 vs Zest(4:0) Cure is 32:22 vs Trap(10:6), 28:21 vs Parting(8:3), 874 vs Zest(22:21) Byun is 24:20 vs Trap(9:5), 19:37 vs Parting(4:12), 86:78 vs Zest(25:19)
RIP Data, RIP you not beiung a troill
To the fake data claim, read the post I quoted. Top 3 Protoss players would typically win against the top 3 Terran players. NOTHING. ELSE. WRITTEN.
So what have I done? Open aligulac. Picked search results. Entered range 01Jan2021 - 31Aug2021. Picked Maru and Trap. Picked Maru and Parting. Picked Maru and Zest.
Didn't filter anything else.
Considering Maru doesn't play weeklies if Maru has overall successful rating that claim was already wrong. But hey, why not add weekly tournaments and stop cherrypicking data when XELNAGA wrote no restrictions in his post.
No trolling, no false data, no fake news. Just beating troll with data.
Just FYI.
Let's go on and see what the troll will come up with next.
Edit> I would like to note that if you open the quotation and search for premier you find no such word. You don't have to read it Edit2> Oh shoot, now you find premier in the previous edit. OH NOE, I DID IT AGAIN!
On January 24 2022 19:38 darklycid wrote: but tournaments dont support protoss dominating terran in the first 2/3 of 2021 it was pretty mixed.
Then you are either very biased or blind. The Korean Terrans said multiple times they wanted to avoid Protoss in 2021.
Like were you not listening or watching interviews?
The Korean Terrans weren't saying they wanted to avoid Zerg. They wanted to avoid Protoss, over and over again.
What massive goalpost moving is this, like do you even read what you write? If the data doesnt support your claim i guess we take what ppl are saying now. I got a massive job opportunity for you at the local circus my man
Alright, Premier level tournaments are listed here: Premier Tournaments. The data is there to see the performance of the top Korean Protoss against the top Korean Terran.
Dreamhack Last Chance 2020/2021: Trap comes out on top, winning the whole thing.
IEM Katowice: Parting/Zest knock out Ty & Innovation (Clem gets knocked out by Zest)
GSL Super Tournament 1: Trap wins this again, beating multiple Korean Terrans along the way.
Next S1: Trap wins this too. Cure is the last Terran holdout, getting beat by Zest.
TSL 7: Trap wins this, beating Cure along the way.
GSL Season 2: This is where Maru loses to sOs and Zoun. Bunny also gets beat by Trap (Bunny or Dream are probably the 3rd best Korean Terran by GSL Season 2 so that's why I am including Bunny in this note).
DH Summer Masters 2021: Finally, an upset by Maru against the top 3 Protoss here with Maru winning against Zest in the group stages. Maru gets out of the group stages and avoids Protoss in the playoffs. Because Maru avoids Protoss, he manages to make it to the finals.
Seriously darklycid, the data is right there for Premier tournaments. How can you be so biased to not see that the top 3 Korean Protoss typically came out on top against the top 3 Korean Terran in the first 2/3 of 2021?
Aligulac shows all the series Cure played against Trap from January 1 to August 31. I get Cure 17 wins, Trap 16 wins in head to head games. In series count, I get Cure 5 series wins, Trap 5 series wins. Here is what I see in the Aligulac breakdown:
How is Decaon getting Cure is 32:22, and 10:6 in series against Trap?
Maybe consider that Deacon is the one that is trolling?
Even if cure is 5:5 with trap the data still doesn't support your claim + L + ratio.
On January 24 2022 21:00 xelnaga_empire wrote:
On January 24 2022 20:16 darklycid wrote: Deacon alrdy deleted ur data claim + L + ratio.
darklycid, why are you so quiet now that I showed Deacon Frost has wrong data? How is Deacon Frost getting 32:22, and 10:6 in series against Trap from January 1 to August 31 of 2021?
do you actually think i have this threads open 24/7 and just wait for your stupid troll posts?
I wasn't going to call you a troll and I was going to keep it civil with you. But at this point, you are a troll too.
You fell for Deacon.Frost's troll data. Deacon.Frost literally made up data to troll everyone and you fell for it. Are you trolling along with Deacon.Frost? Why do you support Deacon.Frost's troll data?
On January 24 2022 19:44 xelnaga_empire wrote: [quote]
Then you are either very biased or blind. The Korean Terrans said multiple times they wanted to avoid Protoss in 2021.
Like were you not listening or watching interviews?
The Korean Terrans weren't saying they wanted to avoid Zerg. They wanted to avoid Protoss, over and over again.
What massive goalpost moving is this, like do you even read what you write? If the data doesnt support your claim i guess we take what ppl are saying now. I got a massive job opportunity for you at the local circus my man
Alright, Premier level tournaments are listed here: Premier Tournaments. The data is there to see the performance of the top Korean Protoss against the top Korean Terran.
Dreamhack Last Chance 2020/2021: Trap comes out on top, winning the whole thing.
IEM Katowice: Parting/Zest knock out Ty & Innovation (Clem gets knocked out by Zest)
GSL Super Tournament 1: Trap wins this again, beating multiple Korean Terrans along the way.
Next S1: Trap wins this too. Cure is the last Terran holdout, getting beat by Zest.
TSL 7: Trap wins this, beating Cure along the way.
GSL Season 2: This is where Maru loses to sOs and Zoun. Bunny also gets beat by Trap (Bunny or Dream are probably the 3rd best Korean Terran by GSL Season 2 so that's why I am including Bunny in this note).
DH Summer Masters 2021: Finally, an upset by Maru against the top 3 Protoss here with Maru winning against Zest in the group stages. Maru gets out of the group stages and avoids Protoss in the playoffs. Because Maru avoids Protoss, he manages to make it to the finals.
Seriously darklycid, the data is right there for Premier tournaments. How can you be so biased to not see that the top 3 Korean Protoss typically came out on top against the top 3 Korean Terran in the first 2/3 of 2021?
Aligulac shows all the series Cure played against Trap from January 1 to August 31. I get Cure 17 wins, Trap 16 wins in head to head games. In series count, I get Cure 5 series wins, Trap 5 series wins. Here is what I see in the Aligulac breakdown:
How is Decaon getting Cure is 32:22, and 10:6 in series against Trap?
Maybe consider that Deacon is the one that is trolling?
Even if cure is 5:5 with trap the data still doesn't support your claim + L + ratio.
On January 24 2022 21:00 xelnaga_empire wrote:
On January 24 2022 20:16 darklycid wrote: Deacon alrdy deleted ur data claim + L + ratio.
darklycid, why are you so quiet now that I showed Deacon Frost has wrong data? How is Deacon Frost getting 32:22, and 10:6 in series against Trap from January 1 to August 31 of 2021?
do you actually think i have this threads open 24/7 and just wait for your stupid troll posts?
I wasn't going to call you a troll and I was going to keep it civil with you. But at this point, you are a troll too.
You fell for Deacon.Frost's troll data. Deacon.Frost literally made up data to troll everyone and you fell for it. Are you trolling along with Deacon.Frost? Why do you support Deacon.Frost's troll data?
Well, weren't you the one who recommended ignoring him? And look and behold who's replying to the troll xD
Touche :D Triggered me way too hard, but ye now i'll ignore (i hope).
Well I'm gonna ignore him as well but let's be honest, he won't starve out here.
I actually wonder if I entered there January-January xD But hey, you did the data and they show Maru and Cure are fine, so why care. Well, that's what I get for arguing with a troll.
Another interview from Maru on TeamNV youtube channel, done right after Last Chance.
Turn out Maru did not have Zerg as practice partner, so he asked Ryung to play Terran with his new build idea against Maru playing Zerg, and Maru lost all the games in the end. Also, Maru confident that he can play Protoss (OP) and beat any Terran.
On January 24 2022 20:51 RKC wrote: Maru-Dark final hype!
(But this is ST, so we're fated to have a PvP final clown fiesta...)
This could be a repeat of ST1 in 2020, which was one of the great ST final imo.
Yeah, one of the most epic finals of all time! Let's not jinx it...
Maru vs Dark has been almost consistently a legendary match. All of their bo7s have been historic and they're basically even in h2h
Aside from their matches in late 2019 when Zerg was busted and Dark stomped all over Maru I agree. They produce the most consistently amazing games of any 2 players. Their styles just match each other in a very fun way.
EPT
4 vs Zest(22:21)
Edit2> Oh shoot, now you find premier in the previous edit. OH NOE, I DID IT AGAIN!
Premier Tournaments.
